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Comment | Fabse commented on Help math

Your equity:
Equity = 0.75 * 0.15 + 0.25 * 0.55 = 0.1125 + 0,1375 = 0.25 = 25%
EV Calculation:
EV = ($Call + $ Pot) * Equity - $Call * (1-Equity)
EV = (153$ + 124$) * 0.25 - 124$ * 0.75 = 69.25$ - 93$ = - 23.75$

Equity needed to breakeven (EV=0):
Equity (EV=0) = $Call /($Call * 2 + $Pot) = 124 / (248+153) = 0.309= 30.9%

Dec. 2, 2015 | 3:28 p.m.

There is not much difference in AKQJ/AKJT. AKJT is actually maybe a little bit stronger due to JT giving you more straight possibilities, but it's neglectable.
If there wasnt already that much money in the pot ch-calling is fine, but OOP with this stack/potsize ratio you should just GII and deny him his positional advantage (You might make incorrect folds on some turns/not get paid off on certain cards etc)

Nov. 4, 2015 | 4:08 p.m.

Comment | Fabse commented on PLO5 AQ96

Preflop is whatever.
OTR you should go for a value bet as you did (you are mostly trying to get called by a flush, so you should go smaller). Once you get raised by MP (he can very well have hands like TT/T9 that he was going for a ch-raise OTF with as well as 78dd) you should definitely fold.
Your pot sized river bet looks really strong and you pretty much never get raised for pot size as a bluff (especially from someone who limped pre and is likely to be a loose passive player) and no one is going to raise a weaker hand for value here.
Sucks, but we gotta fold our full house after facing this raise

Nov. 3, 2015 | 11:22 p.m.

Against described Villain it is a good spot to 5Bet your hand preflop (calling is not bad either), as you are probably pushing an equity edge OOP against his 4betting range.
Postflop you have to gii with your hand. With 1.4$ in the middle and about 2.8$ left, you should probably just check-jam on the flop. After calling flop it's a clear GII OTT either by ch-call/raising or jamming yourself

Nov. 3, 2015 | 11:13 p.m.

Comment | Fabse commented on PLO10Z - x/f Turn?

Just because potting is +EV, it doesnt mean it is the best play.
I like your small bet OTF, you can even go smaller like 2-3$ or also check here.
What to do on turns depends absolutely on villains tendencies.
Most players will just have KK or 8xx way too often in order to call here profitably, but described villain might be very well capable of some spewy plays, so i probably end up calling here (he might call you with hands like 567, 56/67/75 with or without a pair like 4x 99/TT etc and just jam turn once you check).
There is just no clear answer to this

Nov. 3, 2015 | 11:05 p.m.

Hi,
this looks like a pretty tricky spot you find yourself in here!
I did a bit of Pokerjuice analysis on it:

The ranges i gave villain are the following:
30% First In Range from Co - 3% 4B Range
OTF:
Acc:(8+,TQ+,67+),33+,89:(cc,56+,dd:(AK,AQ,AJ,AT,QK,KT,KJ)),Kcc:(83+,3+:(67+,QT+),7T+),cc:(TJQ,JT7,T76:3+)
= 12% of his Floprange
I assigned Villain a pretty strong range here, given that he pot-raises your potsized cbet on this coordinated Board, showing his willingness to get in 300BBs deep. I don't think he has much incentive to raise weak here as you have a lot of hands that are willing to GII and he can play Turns in Position with his weaker holdings.
As you can see you are a 40-60 Underdog against this range, meaning you cannot jam profitably here.
Calling his raise and stacking off on good turns seems to be a valid option though:
His raising range contains a lot of club combos and blocking 9/8 without having a club in our hand, should weight his range even more towards strong flush draws.

If we assume villain to stackoff on every turn card (this assumption can be off) we'll net about 8BBs by calling Flop and jamming/calling the non-club turns. I am pretty sure we won't be able to profit 8BBs OOP though, cause Villain might chose to ch-behind some turns or fold against our jam.
If we were IP calling should become even more attractive

Nov. 2, 2015 | 3:58 p.m.

Squeezing your hand is fine preflop against most CO ranges, as you will push a good amount of equity against a CO pfr range and a BU cold calling range (You have 40% 3 ways against a 30% CO PFR and a 25%-6%3B Range for the BU).
If CO is opening tighter calling becomes more attractive (a 30% range has AA about 11.5% of the time whereas a 20% Range has AA about 18% of the time).
You decided to 3Bet and we are now faced with a 4Bet: If we assume CO to have AA all the time we have 2 options:
- Folding pre
- Call Pre and stackoff on the flops where we have enough equity (we'll need 26% OTF).
Pokerjuice/Odds Oracle can do the math for you in those kind of spots. Here you just have 33% equity against a AAxx range and therefore a pretty clear fold against his 4Bet.
Calling the 4Bets nets an EV of about - 9BBs
Only the strongest of Kings will have about breakeven calls (like KKJTds, KKTTds) here, so we are never going to make much $ by calling his 4Bet with KKxx

Nov. 1, 2015 | 4:57 p.m.


As others mentioned, an UTG range obviously hits this board pretty hard, especially since we don't block any significant cards.
If the UTG player will react to a bet by jamming the following range:
T2+,Ass,Kss:(2+,78+),ss:(89+,J+,T+:(87+)),789+:T+
(2 Pair+, Any NFD, 2nd FD with any Pair or Gutter, Flushdraws with a jack or better/t with gutter/OE or better and Wraps + Pair)
we are going to have a pretty breakeven Bet-Call.
Given that our EV is not 0 when we check back here, i think the best play is to check behind and call/bet/gii on good turns and fold the rest

Nov. 1, 2015 | 4:31 p.m.

We cannot answer this question, as the key in this hand is the Small Blind. Raising if he is deep with you here is pretty bad imo, so we need his stack size.
Generally his SB Coldcalling Range if he is decent will contain a ton of KKxx combos and just very few 33/55 combos. You also block his KTxx combos here. I think it is actually quite likely that he checked the flop KK to ch-raise it, so i don't think you can discount it much.
Calling here and playing rivers is obviously not super easy, but you have position and a kind of "deceptive" hand (your range should be very draw heavy here), so i think i would usually end up calling.

In order for me to prefer a raise here SB has to be kinda short (probably shorter than about 600$) or you must have a good reason to discount a decent chunk of KKxx combos out of his range, because it is just an absolute disaster with a pretty high likelyhood to run into top set.

Oct. 6, 2015 | 10:47 p.m.

What makes u say this is a good board for your range? Our 3betting is high card/pair heavy and does only include a very tiny portion of two pair/set combos, therefore it is actually pretty bad for our range, we do however have the most combos of hands like AA+NFD or KK+FD.

I like the 3bet pre with a very smooth and strong ace high double suited hand to begin with.
Rangewise MP should not connect too well this board either (you also block hands like QQ/JJ with FD).
BB can definitely have a lot of middlish/lower rundowns (ppl just love coldcalling those) but he will still rarely have a hand that us in bad shape here, as we have good equity against his pair+draw hands with the NFD, overcards and BD FD.

Given that the SPR is only 3 i don't see any other play but to pot-call the flop. We'll have a good amount of fold equity here as well as a decent chunk of pot equity. If everybody was 50$ deep i'll be checking here pretty much always though with the bare NFD.

Sept. 3, 2015 | 10:51 p.m.

I don't mind a check-call here on the flop. Our hand plays pretty well on turns with our nut gutshot, 2 overs and 2 backdoor flushdraws as well as backdoor straight draws (9,K,J,A).
As played you have to fold against his three-bet (you didnt give the 3bet sizing though).
Ch-raising is suboptimal imo as we have to fold a decent amount of equity against a 3bet and isolate ourself against a pretty strong continuing range in case he calls(our 2 pair outs lose their value) putting us in akward spots on the turn.
I much rather ch-raise bluff a hand like 69JJ or obviously 88/99 here than this kind of hand

Sept. 3, 2015 | 9:19 p.m.

First of all, your coldcall against the 3bet is pretty questionable. In a spot like this there aren't many hands you can profitably cold call. The reason for it is that you are going to play in a bloated 4 way pot with a reasonable chance of getting 4bet (given the ranges stated the UTG player will 4bet about 20% of the time). Hands you can play here need to have good 4-way equity and need to flop strongly on a ton of flops (Nuttiness is here very important!), while your hand will put you in a lot of trouble (you will flop a lot of dominated straight/flush draws).
Once we get 4Bet it's pretty much a matter of raw equity:
To simplify the calculations and given that we pretty much have to go with anything we hit here, i would make an estimate like this to begin with:
Btw..the EV of folding is 0, so we try to find out whether a call has a higher EV of 0. The 12BBs you already invested are part of the pot:
Stack left: 47.64$ (everybody covers us)
Potsize of main pot if everybody goes all in: 215.31$
Equity needed to breakeven: 47.64/215.31$ ~ 22%
Next step would be to assign every player a range and determine your 4 way equity:
In my calculations you have about 22.5% way with UTG having a AA Range, MP a 6%3B!AA Range and giving the CO a tightish Coldcalling range,

So, from those numbers we get a pretty much break even call, but there are more things to consider:
- On a lot of flops where we stackoff we might actually have pretty horrible equity due to our dominated draws (reverse implied odds)
- Rake (at this potsize it doesn't change much)
- Variance: In a pretty close spot you should decide if u want to gamble for your hole stack
- Our Position: We are last to act and will be able to make the best decision on the flop wether or not to go with our hand

All in all, i would probably end up folding and be mad at myself for calling preflop ;)

May 20, 2015 | 3:18 a.m.

I like a raise on the turn here, because:
- An UTG range will contain much more Flush combos than straight combos
- You have a 7 in your hand while blocking no spades
- Definitely depends on the villain, but generally i expect the sizing of the turn bet (2/3 PS) to be more draw heavy

May 19, 2015 | 2:46 a.m.

May 19, 2015 | 2:29 a.m.

He sure has enough Ah!hh combos in theory (62.6 % AHH to 37.4% Ah for a 60% Range considering all dead cards), but i don't see how you can call here. The majority of your river range will consist of Flushes, which will be much better bluff catcher in this spot (having 2 hearts reduces the Ahh to Ah ratio to about 1), so i wouldn't feel bad folding this hand.
Have never played him but i'm pretty sure he is aware of his flush to bluff ratio and bluffs accordingly..so well played i guess.

May 18, 2015 | 3:27 p.m.

Very clear double barrel imo given stacksizes. Checking here does not do anything good for us and given that he seems to be a loose passive player and just called the flop, his range will be full of pair + draw hands.The king won't improve him often and even if it does, you will still have a lot of outs with your double gutter and 4 set outs. I think you are ahead of his range here and your hand also profits from him folding hands like QQxx or AT89.,.so potting it seems like the only option here.

March 26, 2015 | 10:48 p.m.

Hi,
those days where it seems like everything you do is wrong and you just can't win the big pots are very frustrating, but they just happen! Nothing you can do about it. Dealing with this and not letting it too much get in your head is one of the things a pokerplayer has to learn.
In my opinion there is not much you did wrong in the above hands, you just happened to run into their top of the range each time!

Hand 1:
Given that there is already 11.75$ in the pot with just 7.76$ left, you cannot get away from your hand here. You have a gutshot to go with your aces and this is a board on which players will have way more draws than straights/two pairs/sets. Furthermore you have the ace of diamonds in your hand, which will make it a little bit more likely, that the other players won't have a hand that calls you. If the board was like 78Tddc, you can get away from it imo, but this lowish card board doesn't hit ranges that hard.
The player with KK33 did not 5bet cause your 3bet stat might be 11%, but u made a 4bet here and not a 3bet.

Hand 2:
Your sizing on the flop is totally fine. Turn kind of sucks, but we cannot fold our hand here with the top set and the gutshot. I think you should use a smaller sizing here (around 2-3$), as it will induce calls by weaker holdings like 2 pair + gutshot or maybe a set of jacks and just call it off against a raise then.

Hand 3:
In this hand you are playing against a player on the button. This means, his range will be wider than the range of an UTG/HJ player and contain more 3x and K3 combos. Given that, i don't think you made a big mistake by raising there. If the player was UTG, you should defintitely just call here and not go for a raise. It feels passive to play a hand like an overfull this way, but if you value raise a hand, you always have to think about the number of worse hands that will call you in relation to the number of hands that have you beat.

You can use the count function of propoker tools, to find out his combos of KK, K3 and 3x
Dead cards: 6d6c7s8s 3cKd6h3d
Players range: KKxx Combos: K3 combos: 3x Combos:
20% 2410 760 1261
35% 2461 1326 2852
50% 2476 1919 5117
100% 2501 4802 19019
*3x combos have to be discounted much more, given that the he cbet the flop and therefore has sth to go with the 3 (K,45,AA,57 and so on). Also did not include 33xx, but it will not change the numbers much.

So, you have to think about his preflop range and whether or not you think he is going to call a raise and a jam with bare trips.

Maybe you should take a day off and review some of the hands you played in that session, before you start again. That's how i usually deal with those bad days ;)

March 25, 2015 | 11:57 p.m.

I don't like calling your hand preflop, even against a raise from a pretty lose player. As pointed out from others, your hand does not play well in a multi way pot, since you lack nut equity (the two gap and the q high flush draw really hurt). It is also too weak to 3bet, as you don't do too well against 4 bets and given that the MP opener is just 70BBs deep. Stick to hands that dominate his opening range and strong rundowns.
As played, don't raise the flop 3ways. You have position and pretty good visibilty.The SB will only raise here with a range that has you either in trouble or is flipping against you.

March 4, 2015 | 9:58 p.m.

You are correct about the 66/A6 stuff..i had a typo there!
I changed that and also gave myself AA76 instead of a range to analyze the CO's river distribution:
Seems like i'm gonna have the straight here way more often than he does, given that i think i can i barrel way more ABB combos on the turn and given that i have AA i will block a ton of his ABB combos, so he will have QQ a lot of the time here.
I actually like the idea of betting small and in that moment i felt like it's probably the best way to play it. On the other hand, if he will pay me off with most of his QQxx combos i could get away with jamming AA and KJ against him and prob bluffing only hands like AKKT;KKQT (i rarely barrel that one) or maybe A345

March 2, 2015 | 1:33 p.m.

Post | Fabse posted in PLO: How to play the River PLO 1.5/3

Hi,
i played this hand a couple of days ago and i am pretty sured i messed up the river play.
Can't import the hand history as it is not supported.
PLO 1.5/3, 7 handed
Hero (101BBs) open UTG AA56ccdd
Lose passive fish (200+BBs, HJ) calls
Bad LAG (CO, 150BBs) calls
BU Folds
SB Folds
BB Calls

Flop:AsQd6h 14.5BBs, 4players
BB Checks
Hero cbets 9.5BBs
HJ Folds
CO Calls
BB Folds

Turn: 2c 33,5BBs, 2 Players
Hero bets 24BBs
CO calls

River:Tc 81.5BBs in the Pot, 63BBs in stacks
Hero ?

My question is how to play this river. I guess i should never bet here with this hand.
So, do u vb KJ only, which sizing is the best in your opinion and which hands would u use as bluffs (i guess hands like AJTx)?
Do you ch-f here given that we don't expect to get bluffed a lot and we don't have any blockers against straights?

I analyzed the hand with poker juice and came up with the following river distribution:

March 2, 2015 | 9:01 a.m.

Prefop is totay fine, even without the fish in the blinds.
Against a passive opponent who won't stab light here against a check and who probably overfolds those A high boards, you can definitely go ahead and cbet this hand.
Against most opponents i play this hand as a check-call, because i don't want to bet and get raised, i wanna induce some weak stabs from hands with low equity against my actual holding and i don't need as much protection given that i hold a flush draw myself.
Other hands i like to play as a ch-call here would be for example 7xxxdd, A45x, AJT9hh, so hands with some showdown value and a mediocre draw/good backdoor equity.
I don't like a ch-r here at all, as you will turn a hand with some showdown value and a decent flush draw into a bluff and build a pot oop without any nutouts against a range of better made hands/better draws.

March 1, 2015 | 8:02 p.m.

Given the SPR of 1 and the texture of the board you are committed to your AAxx. You cannot bet-small and fold to a push, given that you would need only 15% equity in that case to make a breakeven call (after betting 165$) and your equity vs their stackoff ranges will be much higher! Just close ur eyes, click that pot button and hope to win ;)

March 1, 2015 | 7:37 p.m.

I'm calling here as well. The button will cbet this board fairly wide on the flop and the donk of the fish looks a lot like a pair + draw type of hand against which we do pretty good (sure, he might sometimes have a wierdly played set or so, but in general this ch-call,donk line for 2/3 pot on such a draw heavy board is not going to be super strong!).
Important things to consider here:
- How often will the BU have a hand to stack off with?
- Is the SB allowed to repop in case the BU ships (usually he is, when the raise is more than half of the previous bet/raise, right??) and how likely is he to do that?

I put this hand into pokerjuice:
Button: First in 40% Prefloprange, Cbetting range of 45+,K,36+,AA
SB::65 % Prefloprange - 15%3bOOP range, Calling range on Flop : 45,36+,6:(24+,sscc,sshh,hhcc)
Turnrange:K8,45:cc,Pair with NFD, two pair with gutter/flush draw
Stackoffrange of BU: K3:(cc,45), K6+, Pair with NFD
Stackofffrequency BU: 32%
For simplicity i will analyze two different scenarios:
(This neglects the scenario which occured here, which is obv good for us but also the scenario of the SB reshoving. I think both of em are pretty unlikely and of them is good for us and one bad for us.. )
(1) SB bets, we call, BU jams, SB call, we call (Probability: 32%)
Our 3 way equity: 23%
EV= -187,25$*0,77 + (693-187,25)$ * 0,23 = - 144,2$ + 116,3$ = -27,8$

(2) SB bets, we call, BU folds (Probability: 68%)
It's very hard to calculate the EV for this event, but we are in position against a fish with a hand that does pretty well against his donk leading range (we have around 57% against the range i gave him). Our call has to have a positive EV of at least 27.8*0.32/0.68=13$ in order to for us to show a profit here.and i'm sure it does have it.
So, yes i think you will have to call here.

March 1, 2015 | 5:25 p.m.

I guess we need to know your hole cards to answer it :P

March 1, 2015 | 7:43 a.m.

Comment | Fabse commented on PLO200 Valuebet River ?

The rundowns in your coldcalling range should be able to connect on a high number of boards (suited/double suitedness, high connectedness) in the way of flopping a ton of 2 pair+draw/pair+combo draws, they have to do well against 4betting ranges and they also need to be able to flop hands like top 2 pair rather than bottom two/top and bottom.
- Low rundowns like 6742ds do well against a 4betting range, but they don't do well in a bloated 3way 3B Pot as they will flop too many dominated 2 pair combos and draws.
- K high/A high rundowns do pretty good in terms of 3way equity but their equity against 4betting ranges is significantly worse. So you should fold all but the every strongest of this category
- The best rundowns to coldcall are hands like QJT8ds, 6789ds (you shouldnt go much lower!) as they do well against 4Bets and connect strongly on a lot of boards.

Feb. 12, 2015 | 11:53 p.m.

Comment | Fabse commented on PLO200 Valuebet River ?

Common 3Bet Coldcalling Ranges for the SB contain strong KK combos and a lot of strong suited/double suited rundowns.
In a spot like this where you 3Bet an UTG range i think his range will be weighted more towards rundowns, as he should expect the UTG player to 4Bet a decent amount of the time. Also i don't think he will call flop+turn and check the river with a SPR of below 1.with a rivered full house, so imo you should jam here with your nut flush. Though, if stacks were deeper on the river, i think i would only value bet here with a K blocker.

Feb. 11, 2015 | 2:43 a.m.

I'm actually the same opinion.I'm folding here against this raise. I just can't see the opponent making a weak pot sized raise in this deep stacked spot, given that he can float/raise small with weaker parts of his range. We will just getting outplayed here too much without any backup equity/blockers and with very little equity against his made hands, that he raised for value.
I also don't like the 3Bet preflop. We are very deep, out of position and just don't need bloat the pot with a mediocre hand like that (i would only 3Bet this against a fish i have a read on). We should tighten our 3betting range and have a lot of better hands to 3bet with.

Jan. 15, 2015 | 4:04 p.m.

Looks like a pretty tough spot to be in.
Flop: I gave the PFR a range of 15% and a cbetting range of Ax and 88 (i am assuming he probably bets all of his Ax combos, even though he prob shouldnt).
Those assumptions lead to an equity advantage of 58,4-41.6 for the PFR, which makes a push -EV.
His range should look like that:
- FH around 11% of the time (we have 27% against it)
- 89% of the time Ax!8 (43,4% equity against that part)
only 13% of the time he has three Aces he will have a flush draw to go with it
-> So, a decent amount of our equity comes from our flush draw here
My plan would be to fold on every brick(we will need about 33% on the turn) , obv stick it in on our fh outs and use our position to evaluate on flush turns (i am folding whenever he bets on a spade).

As played i see no other option but to fold our hand on the turn. If the over caller is bad enough to call with a nut flush draw otf, he might also overcall if u call the turn. And in the other case it is very likely that one of the players has 88, leaving us with 6 outs.

Jan. 15, 2015 | 10:13 a.m.

Hand History | Fabse posted in PLO: 4Betting IP - Right choice in this case?
Blinds: $2.00/$4.00 (6 Players) CO: $400.00 (Hero)
BN: $936.14
SB: $400.00
BB: $449.50
UTG: $806.86
MP: $159.50
ME: I will open here about 30% of my hands
BU: 92 Hands: 52/11 Stats with 11% 3B IP
BB: 39/29 with 17/12 3B IP/OOP, Saw him Squeeze KJT8ss in a spot like this
76% Cbet Stat in 3Bet Pots OOP
Preflop ($6.00) Hero is CO with K K 4 2
MP folds, Hero raises to $12.00, BN calls $12.00, BB folds, UTG raises to $50.00, Hero raises to $164.00, BN folds, UTG raises to $506.00, Hero calls $236.00 and is all in

Dec. 22, 2014 | 4:25 p.m.

I would definitely play it the same way. Checking pretty much my whole range on that flop and once he checks back, this is very standard bet for value and protection on the turn against a range, which is pretty capped.

Dec. 3, 2014 | 5:50 p.m.

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