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That's a good point too, thanks Tyler

Thank a lot mush

True. Against 2 players with a range of JJ-22,AQs-A5s,K9s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,87s,76s,65s,AQo-ATo,KTo+,QTo+,JTo, we are 23% equity.

Against 1 player with that range we are 44% equity however.

New Question: should we CBet 60% if we were just vs. the BU?

Okay thanks homies

Thanks homies

Like ZenFish already said, if you have the read that your opponents are stabby, I'd definitely go for the x/r

If you have no reads on your opponents, I think this is a bet to protect & you can back into a nutflush to win a big pot later

Yea I'd raise for sure to protect against set or clubs

Like A7X said, you have redraws & can possible get it in with naked T9

What would you guys do if bojab folds & just the SB cold calls the 3b?

I think I'd cbet if BU cc the 3b cuz he could have a wider range

say bojab folds & it's 3way, there will be less KK / QQ (because the players behind you are probably less likely to cold call a 3b with most KK / QQ)... then I think it's arguable for cbet/get in because you won't be totally crushed by a set as often but even still... a lot of the hands that cc 3bets are high card rundowns so I'd probably x & bet a safe turn card if x'd to again

"what about board 255 with flush draw?"

On a board with a FD vs. 2 players who have shown some strength (i.e. are likely to have suited or double suited hands) I would definitely weak semi-bluff bet less often & probably reserve semi-bluff betting for hands with a FD in them (like AKT7 with a FD)

cbet sizing to $10 or $15

Good point Suniram that sizing a cbet to 30% saves us some bb's when we run into a 5. I thought for a sec that this might be best line but then I also thought that it may be more likely to get played back at & invite ourselves to getting bluff raised which is hard to play back against even at the top of our range with AA (I mean virtually the top of our range, like 1% of the time we do have trips or a boat). 

If you have experience with your opponents & know they won't pull a bluff raise on you, then I'd be very happy to bet 30% pot & fold to a raise but without experience or with a read that your opponents may be tricky/aggressive, I feel a 30% bet invites playbacks & turns our hand face up when we continue (if we call, we have AA or KK & we fold all others bluffs). What do you guys think about this?

Thanks for your thoughts homie. I think this guy is a bit tricky so I put him in the more aggressive side of regular players.

I wasn't playing with a HUD but I'm pretty sure he 3bets most AA so I heavily discounted that, especially combined with the A blocker I have.

This is kind of separate but I think HUDs are not that useful for making decisions like these unless you have 10k hands on someone & the flop x/r stat is reliable. My opinion is that showndown hands are where we need to focus on to make good plays. Because it's not that hard to have 150 hands on a guy & he has a x/r of 20% but he had a set 2 out of 10 times & never x/r's light for example. Whereas if we had a showndown hand read that he doesn't thinnly value bet for example, that would lead me to believe he is less aggressive & less likely to x/r bluff which would be more reliable than a 20% x/r stat. HUDs have made me make bad plays before personally & I try to rely much more on showndown hands... in order to do so & not be lazy, sometimes I take my HUD off so I don't rely on it for reads.

I know any information should be helpful but sometimes it becomes information overload (for me at least)

I would 3b preflop cuz you're way ahead his range (65% equity vs a top 25% opener)

On this board, you want to be betting large-ish with all possible holdings in my opinion whether it be AA/KK or 2pair or draw (say $1.80 into $2.35, as overbet56 first mentioned)

That would leave you with $7.10 to shove into $5.95 on the turn (basically a pot sized bet)

Why don't we semi-bluff bet the flop?

This board is pretty good for AA or KK

It's hard for your opponents to hit this board almost ever. I would cbet half pot with your blocker to one of your opponents have a KK.

However if your opponents don't think much of your 3betting range or your cbetting range given the game flow, I would consider a xb because they may be more likely to make a move on you which is hard to fight back against unless your very certain that they are for sure making a move

I heard this in one of whitelime's videos on PLO made in like 2011ish when games were softer at his stakes (but I believe his advice still applies to PLO 10)

He said he likes to pot preflop because you allow players to make mistakes in bigger pots vs. you.

To my knowledge, raising smaller (like 2.27bb) makes sense when you get 3bet frequently. By raising smaller, you

1. risk less to steal the blinds (i.e. risk 2.27bb to win 1.5bb)

2. enable yourself to have a deeper stack when calling a 3bet (however I'm a little confused at when good players say they like this OOP because I feel like deeper stacks would favor the IP player... but it definitely makes sense to me when you're on the button)

One little thought is that if he is only playing for EV he may be inclined to play a more aggressive style to get it all-in on flops with draws more frequently.

For example where a flop peel + gaining for information might be a better play, he may decide to raise/call flop to get his EV (could reduce win rate)

On the other hand, a benefit is he will probably tilt less than if he was playing for his own $ (will more than likely increase win rate)