thephyzician

I agree with the others regarding this video. Excellent, well presented and easy to understand.

Great video!

Sorry - still getting used to captioning comments ha

Pretty sure ive never played a hand vs him Raph = no history

PJ would never stack off light in that spot

Is this correct from a game theory perspective? Taking one line ONLY for value and never as a bluff

Fully agree with the fact that if we call turn we should call river.

BUT it just feels a bit meeeeoow folding turn

Personally I wouldn't usually do anything but r/f here.

what do you think about checking back flop vs good villains. We know we aren't getting 3 streets vs him im thinking maybe it would be easier to get T+R as well as getting to showdown without bloating the pot OTF

I feel famous. Saw u playing this the other day and despite this being higher stake than im used to i couldn't help myself and hopped in 2 tables until I played a hand with u!

Your thought process is second to none imo

Keep up the great work and content Phil.

I agree with John here. I'd fold>3b>call. We're not expecting to make a long term profit in this particular spot vs this particular player. and yeah its a good thought that we can get better at our game by playing hands like this vs Gray, but putting ourselves in potentially -EV spots does not necessarily translate to future progress (im also thinking about the times we get/feel like we get owned and take a mental hit)

2 barrel is mandatory but x/f that river I agree

At this stack depth I think it's more important to 4b/s wider for value. In my mind this typically includes 22 but we also need to take into account his future adjustment (should he make one) which will be to call our 4b/s wider - which we hate when we have 22. I'm getting used to limp calling HU vs lag villains and maybe this would be an ideal plan here? As played I think in game it sounds like an easy shove vs described villain.

Vs an unknown I'd play the same way as u did and fold river. Pot controlling otf isn't as important as getting value from draws and weaker 8x so I like betting flop.. and if u think about it even if we did check back flop we don't really have enough history with villain to call turn and river with ease. Just sucks the way it rolled out coz we have no idea how he plays big draws, weak draws, weak TP etc Side note: 3betting flop is out of the question imo

Before reading the comments above I thought he has some busted F draws in his range for sure! It's weird coz only a small portion of his value range even bets the river like this given that we are capped.. Players still def spew stacks early in these tourneys.. U just need to assess bluffing freq/combos to value combos and decide if it's a call.. And in my experience this is something ur very good at;)

Lets see a series for sure!

yeah we both agreed that flatting is a good option if he knows little about ICM.

and also i like you're point about making the 3bet sizing big enough to deter villain from flat calling raphael.

we decided to flat call, it folded to the BB who shoved and then villain iso'd the BB and showed down J8o after we called.

now i guess the question is,

if we know villain is shoving as wide as he actually did

is this a call for us given ICM?

i think we're thinking too hard here.. Sneeze has it on the head.. this turn is the blankest in the deck..

i honestly cant see him having a hand we beat right now and id fold

I like this question and have thought long and hard about this myself. In practice i have tried changing entire sessions from a lot of $2-$27 larger fields, and replaced them with the likes of say 20 or so of the smaller fields you mention eg $33 1r1a and 55fo etc..

what i did find was this..

Those fields were 3/4 full of good regs and either a) i was just finding it way too difficult to accumulate chips from or b) i wasnt adjusting my game well enough to accomodate for the field change.

I accept that i have done this for probably <10 total sessions (because the downswing in the $55-$109 fields was ridic for my roll) so the sample size was hardly significant but during those games i did notice quite a difference in the calibre of the 'average' player there.

Just my observations for ya:)

Yeah thanks raph. I keep thinking about this and i def agree that leading turn is a mistake. I prefer c/c or if the turn checks through i can lead river small and at that point could get called by worse.
So you wouldn't ever c/r flop then? I still think i should sometimes c/r this flop im just not sure about frequency.

Yeah i think my max 4b gii stack pre ante in this spot would be like 32bb or something close to it..

haha ok.. but if we're ever at the same table i'll be keeping me eye out:)

Yeah i think calling pre is better than 3betting (which i dont think is bad btw) this deep pre ante.. this kinda does lead to the 'overplaying' raph talks about and losing a 100BB pot with 1 pair on a very wet board.. As played i think its a very easy c/f river

I really enjoy the pace of your vids also Grayson.. you get through quite a lot of hands and discussion is fast but thorough imo.. And its good to see occasionally you get players like Lorneta who are just loose unpredictable and bad at ur stakes too.. Not just something we see at small stakes.. Nice vid sir!

I dont mind defending here w KJ. Im quite comfortable with most situations post commonly like x/c flop -> x/x turn -> bet river for example, or x/x flop -> bet turn, etc etc.. this line however is a lot less common early, pre ante in MTTs in my experience.. but something mid-late stages that a lot of players use..
with regard to the 1/2 button.. im actually guilty of this myself when multi tabling but it doesnt go without a small amount of thought.. looks like ill be finding stevies vid now:)