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32:30- A8s hand. Do you have a river checking range on this board? Or are you always going three streets with all of your range?

It kind of sucks to have to shove A8s and 99 here, and even though those are only a few combos, don't we want to be able to check/fold or check/call at least some of our range here? Especially vs certain villains?

Would you recommend this style in lower limit live games? 1/2 and 2/5? 

How do you feel about limping behind in position a lot?

I personally have noticed that iso raising does not work as well live because I'm getting multiple callers and seeing 4-6 way flops regularly which obviously forces me to show up with a hand a lot of the time. 

^ Live reg. <3 you

In one of Sauces vids he talks about how you need to recognize spots where your range is just going to be at a complete advantage or disadvantage over your opponents and how you need to play accordingly to this.

This is something you cannot control as obviously the cards that come out are random but you do need to be aware of these situations as they come up.

This is a spot where I feel our villain's range is just going to be owning us a lot. We are at a very heavy disadvantage as you can see. (you are basically praying for a flip in your analysis of the hand) 

I wouldn't worry so much about bet sizing as a tell here. After 4-5 years playing, villain is going to know what your range looks like on this flop. With his raise he is saying "My range can put in a lot of extra money comfortably on the board."

Can we say the same thing about our own range in this spot? Probably not. 

I don't mind folding and getting a bit ran over here. The last thing you want to do is ignore his range and make a huge decision based off a bet sizing tell that you are unsure of.

The problem is that there are not a lot of hands in your range that can stack off for 400bb on this flop. I wonder if villain knows that?

Based purely from the fact that villain has a wider range than you here, hes going to have more combos that can stack off.

His sizing is nice. If you call here you're going to have to call his 3/4 pot shove on the turn. =(

You have been 3 betting him loosely? I'm going to assume that you mean wider for value as you surely expect him to call and you probably wont want to have bluffs in your 3betting range vs him.

So if you're 3 betting something like 99+  KJs+ KQ+ for value then that means you're going to end up with a lot of 1 pair hands and unpaired broadway hands on this board. Which basically means you're going to hate life when you get XR 400bigs deep.

I am not really sure about this but maybe you can have a polarized range for flops like this when you're this deep?

We can bet and our super nutted hands that can stand heat and bet our pure bluffs. 

And then we are obviously going to have a check back range that is fairly strong which consists of lots of overpairs and strong broadways that may improve and that can call 2 streets happily?

If we were to have a strategy like that vs this villain then AKhh is going to be a check back for us in this spot.

I don't really agree with that. I think the cards you play are almost just as important as your position in these games. There are definitely spots where your opponents ranges are going to be unbalanced and some timely aggression will win you the pot, but you are not going to simply run over a table. You're going to be "handcuffed" in a lot of these pots with 4-6 players seeing a flop, and playing too wide is just going to leave you with too many dominated combos in your range on flops.

He may or may not be a high level thinker. But he was definitely someone I pegged to be decent from the few orbits we have played and usually against unknown villains fitting this description my general strategy is not to value-bet them as much.

Also I should mention that decent sized turn bets in 1/2 live are generally very strong so I think this narrows his range a bit to AK, AQ, KT, AJ, although I cant see AQ and AK as much since he decided not to raise pre.

During the hand I had a really really hard time trying to figure out what would worse hands would call a standard sized bet here on the river given that his turn bet felt very strong to me.

In the end i bet $75 and he called and showed AJ for a better two pair. I thought it was thin to begin with, but checking back seemed meh as well. 

Thoughts?

K4s hand at 19 min. Are you going to barrel the turn if you didn't pick up that flush draw?

I don't really like your flop play. The board is pretty dry and we only repKK /44/77 and Flush draws?? KK is obviously discounted since we didn't raise pre although I'm not sure how often youre limping big PPs utg. 

What hands were you looking to fold out with that raise btw?

I am very concerned with the nit insta shipping here. If hes a nitty as you say then this is a set most of the time and this decreases our equity a bit. 

As played youre getting like 2-1 on a call and that's about what we need but given the action and stack sizes I think I'm just folding because putting 200bb in with 25-30% equity sucks but thats me.

I'd really love some more input on this. I play exclusively live these days and lately I've been trying to open my game up a bit more. Playing tight will definitely win you some money but I feel like I'm missing out on some good spots by folding too much.

I think villains range hits this board too hard. And I also don't think you're not deep enough to get him to fold whatever hes barreling. If you were like 250bb deep then you can raise the flop smallish and then apply a ton of pressure on the turn to get him to laydown his one pair combos.