necromadx

Hey, great video. I actually enjoy good old hand history review, its a good change from all the: browsing the solver output type of videos that are here lately.

The spot I am having trouble with personally would be probably facing 3bets OOP with marginal pairs (AQQss,qjj8ss,AK55ss etc..) in late position scenario (COvsBTN,SBvsBB) being 100+BB deep.

Other spot I am lately having trouble with are defending enough vs small bets - especially HU game and when it goes small across multiple streets. Or simple a video about facing river bet would be also nice.

Thanks Phil.

Hey, I have a question about preflop sizing: At 40:17 you open the btn with 85s for 2.5x 6handed (35bb+- eff) and hand after in the video in the exact same situation you opened ATo for 2.25x, whats the reasoning behind these two different sizings? Also several hands later you minraised, I believe, twice or three times 6 handed from early position, why not use bigger sizing there because you need to have tighter range and you want to extract more value out of your tighter range? Thanks!

Hey,
You said that EV gain for turn leads is only 0.1% in PIO. But wouldnt be EV gain a little bit bigger just because people are not used to play against those leads and therefore wont play optimally - like in this hand, i noticed that PIO doesnt raise QTs and villian did therefore didnt reall follow PIO strategy right?
Thanks!

I am not sure aswell, but I would say its a pretty rough guess - someone posted here numbers that seamed reasonable 47:53 in favor of UTG player. And thats a pretty good result 47% in all in scenario OOP. Lets assume that he is never raise folding like this ( which he could be very rarely ) - then still realizing your equity is still pretty good result. My point was, if you call its hard to play even if you make your hand, so if for example 7 or Q hits and you have the nuts, turn SPR is roughly 1 - you bet - what sizing? You could pot it ofc - but its hard to represent a lot of bluffs so your opponent will have easy time against that bet. 1/3? Then you are giving him good price to draw. But I agree that betting would be more correct then checking.

I start with what I meant by flopability, when you flop something with this hand, you usually hit a hand that is playable - a set, openender with a pair, potential blockers on 234 etc.. And when you dont hit, your hand is wortheless and easy to play. Obviously when you hit a set on KQ5 with a flashdraw for example you are not gonna go crazy.

When you Defend the BB ( i dont know about very high rake enviroment ) sometimes you are forced to play hands that might not be easy to play postflop - but still profitable. Low pairs, low rundowns, low A hi suit hands etc.. these hands are not easy to play but are usually ok defends multiway.

The thing is, even if you could narrow his range to only AA ( then again you need a strong read for that ) when he limp raises, your hand has only roughly 32% eq against AA. Yes I agree you would have to call because of the implied odds, but keep in mind that you are not making money, you are just trying to lose less in that spot - EV of calling would outperform EV of folding by a little bit I would assume after your initial call, but I would also assume that EV of folding initialy would out performer EV of calling if you would have strong read of your opponent limp raising. Also its an asumption it will fold to you once he raises. So you would be investing 20% of your stack with SPR roughly 3 postflop.

Tell me why is my comment worst nonsense. I was just browsing low stakes forum and found some interesting hands to comment on and give some input. Obviously I could be wrong but I would like to see more solid argumenty.

Its always good to take a flip OOP. You are not in a spot where you are going to make money. Your goal on the BB is to minimize loses. And also in this spot when you take a flip against his range, you realize all of your equity ( you also have some fold eq if you raise ) and you deny positional advantage for the IP player. For example you call, turn pairs and your opponents bets the same hand - you are probably folding but you could have just take the flip. Other example, turn brings a possible fd and your opponents pots - you probably have to fold again. Third example - you make your hand on the turn - whats your plan?

Pretty easy call preflop, this hand has great playability and good flopability. I would fold in one extreme case where you would have very strong read that limper is very likely to limpraise.

On the flop raising seems like a better option. There are some hands you are way ahead, some hands that you are 50-60% against and only one hand that crushes you and that is TTxx - upside is, TT is more inclined to check than lead when he blocks toppair so heavily and also with TT comes side cards like QJ, 9J etc.. so he is even more inclined to check those.

So I would say Well played.

I agree, for example how the rake is taken on the PokerMaster Chinese App, I love to play there just for fun, because you play rake free - therefore you can limp preflop and play very loose - and you pay rake only if you win after the table finishes. Or you could do good old time collection like they do in Vegas - you are basically playing rake free every hand and just pay for example 9 bucks every half an hour on 25/50.

I would be more concerned having two Jd in the deck. That seems a little bit unfair to me, unless you are playing some exotic variant of holdem.

Anyway players should pay attention and respect the rules. Also know the rules.

I am just wondering, why with SPR under 3, you dont want to just shove and get it in. Yes I understand Phil reasoning. But we could assume he might fold some weak KK preflop ( or shove some very strong KK preflop ) so we can discount few combos of KK. Yes he will have some K9. But he will also have hands like AKQJ ( Yes i know that we block those hands ) and we are doing a little bit better than flipping. Also hands like JT98, 987 etc.. And we dont mind denying equity to these hands. Overall I think in tight preflop range should be more Pair + gutshot type of hands or AKQ than two pairs that contain K9, K3 or 93.

Hi, I have one question. If I have nationality in one of the restricted countries but have an apartment, pay my bills and have a bank on my name in other country. Can I play from that other country? Or i still cant because of my nationality.

Thank you for your response.

Splash pots are great idea. But i have a question, you are saying that money will be splashed from range 1bb-1000bb but for example on €4PLO you get splashed for .04-40 while capped rake is at €1 and at €2000PLO you get splashed 20-20k while thats 500 times more in splashed pots. The rake is capped only 3.75 more. Does that mean you have some fixed frequencies for every different stakes?

Hey,

For the last hand and the river lead. Why lead for full pot? I agree with solver that if you want to lead for full pot you cant really do that that often because you simply dont have enough bluffs. That leads me to another question what kind of bluffs do you have on the river? It has to be a hand that you call against almost a full pot size bet on the turn on a very straighty board. For me it feels like a spot where i probably want to lead my whole range for lets say one third to half pot and make my opponent indiferent possibly but then again depends how many actual bluffs you have on the river etc.. because its also a wierd spot in that sense that both ranges should be quite strong in terms of hand strenght.

Hi there,

AQJ2 on KQJ52 block betting the river and facing a raise. You talked a lot about this hand being bottom of your value betting range therefore facing a raise and being at the bottom of your range why not 3bet bluff as your opponent cant have nuts ( or very rarely ) and if you want to block bet you should also inclue some straights in your blocking range. And also you block your opponent from having a straight blocker (A).

Hey,

I would probably shove the turn with this SPR. I dont see many slowplays in his range that would like to check this very drawy turn - only candidates i am thinkig about are AK55 with nut fd and similiar hands. And your hand would like to see a fold basically everytime and if money goes in I think that you should have enough equity with your fold equity to make this bet profitable.

Another question is if you can make more money by checking in position. But with no real showdown value its not gonna be easy on the river because you cant really bluff that well and on cards you hit its very hard to get value. So I would take my fold equity on the turn against hands like J998, AJTx etc.. that might be giving up.

One question: Would your decision be different on Qh having the nut flushdraw instead of T hi flushdraw and Why? Instinctively is always better to be shoving with nut FD especially blocking all the possible trapping hands. But with no showdown value, getting any fold on the turn is good especially in these low SPR spots where fold equity is where the money are coming from.

As a player who dont really use hud but Notes. Do I understand it correctly that when I note a player the note will just dissapear for next session?

One really good thing is that with this you basically make seating scripts pretty much worthless - big thumbs up for that.

Important question about integrity:
Since tables are anonymous, how are you going to fight collusions? Like sharing cards etc..

Totally agree with Pierre you have a monster with all those backdoors and given the SPR. In these spots fold equity is most important thing and you just want to put maximum pressure on marginal hands of your opponents ( like one pair no backup, naked gutshots etc.. ). And if you happen to run into top of their ranges yea that sucks but you still have equity.

Preflop its close, I personally dont mind calling because your hand is double suited and connected enough that you will flop good enough hand in low spr spot and make up for the fact that you are slight equity underdog against aces.

On the flop you cant fold that would be a huuuge mistake.

Like someone mentioned, its kinda hard to point out particular mistakes from stats.

BUT there are some very obvious ones I think. You are probably way tooo passive and you probably dont bluff enough. For example my aggression precentages by streets are more than 10% higher than yours. Also W$WSF is terribly low, it should be around 45% minimum. You should look at pots you could steal or protect your hand more and dont underestimate small pots there is real value in them, big pots are usually simple ones. Also there are some minor things like being too loose passive preflop but I dont think thats a big deal. For example I VPIP 60% overall on the BB but rake at high stakes is much much lower and there are also less multiway pots so its okay but on the other hand I have slighlty less VPIP from other positions but then again different games. What I think might be a bigger thing is your 3bet% from the blinds you might be losing some value there, I personally have double your sqz% and double 3bet% from blinds.

I disagree with your second point, river call eff is completely fine in my opinion. And I agree with your third point.

Life is one looong session.

I play full time on stars and I dont really have +-15 BI swings pretty much ever. My biggest losing/winning sessions are about +-10 BI sessions usually once a month or two. Also I dont have stop loss / win set up I just play my session. Maybe if you have a stoploss then you end up being down more often.

You kinda answered yourself. When learning something new play one or two zoom tables and focus on your decisions. Then practice it playing 3 tables making automatic decisions just like you said. Review these sessions then make notes and fix errors.

I dont know how often you play, for example if you play full time playing 6 days a week for 6-8 hours its good to have like 2 study days per week and look at more concrete things like playing BvB Single raised deep pots rather than “Calling raises too much” because it doesnt tell you much about your game. Its also a good habit to do a short study before and after every session lets say 30-60 min.

@44:10 AQ75 limp from SB. Flop is JJ7 two clubs, if you bet and get raised, in general, do you have a reraising range? If so what do you think about this hand being a bluff reraise and probably going for 3 streets? Blocking AJ, QJ, J7 and not blocking any draw. In my opinion in limp / check scenario BB shouldnt really have that many strong jacks, most of the time some disconnected hard to improve and we can put a lot of pressure on those by the river, also if we have AJ+ ourselves we can gain some value.

Hey, great video!

Last hand Q68T on 995, would you shove the river for value on off suit 7 that gives you a nut straight?

Very easy and standard fold preflop, coldcalling this 3bet OOP is a huge mistake and worst option. There is an argument for 4 betting if UTG and MP are total crazy maniacs. But UTG still to act not that unlikely he is 4betting since UTG ranges are very very tight therefore you should expect tons of AAxx especially when you block KKxx and you dont block any A.

Postflop I dont understand your sizings, but betting that small on the river I think you need to call it of, because you bet size that should mean you are value betting tons of hands therefore villian could be even raising you with Q hi flush. Also he checks back the flop so I would discount tons of Ahh.

Preflop: Very standard call. Unless rake is insanely high and opponent is insanely tight at the same time.

Flop: I dont really like leading with non nutty hand, so check decide seems best.

Turn: Its 3 way and both SB and BTN should have many many strong hands there and BTN should probably do the betting - he has most strong two pairs and most AAxx. So again check and decide - call vs a bet, fold vs a bet and a raise. You have equity against basically anything. On the river its actually pretty easy to play for you. Argument that he has easier time on the river its kinda obvious because he is IP and you are OOP.

And most importantly about checking the turn is that if it checks through you are gonna steal the pot on the river extremely often because BTN capped his range and if SB checks the river he is usually capped aswell.

To sum up: On the turn BTN should do the betting and you gain most information by checking and proceeding to the river.

One argument for betting is that you have no SD value and good equity. You can elaborate on this a little bit more and maybe construct a solid betting range, but I really dont like betting.

RatStyleGaming
To floating with 99-TT naked blockers, I think there is a problem that river will change the nuts pretty often - board pair and fd. So if we dont have atleast nut flush blocker or high flush blocker to go with our 99-TT, it might be pretty hard to make that bluff.

JasonCrest
On the flop what I meant by saying that I dont have high frequency bet is that I am not cbetting >60% of my range for example so I still have a solid betting range as shown in PJ screenshot.

Harthor
Yes I included J7+ to my flop betting range.

Sounds perfect! I have sent you a pm.

Hey,

I am kinda interested in intermediate course. But I am more concerned about time of the session, 1.5 hours with 6 students seems to me like a very little time, because sometimes even one hand analysis could take more than 2 hours from my experience.

Also I have read your book Live full ring PLO, watched like half of your videos here on RIO and currently I am playing 1/2-5/10 at stars with decent winrates, how beneficial would that be for me? Because I dont feel like I fall into category of these players that already know things you can "teach". And I have no doubt in your coaching skills even tho "you havent played high stakes at stars these days".

Thanks for response.