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c/f is calling range on the flop includes alot of A high with fd, combos of str with flush draws and of course sets.

If BB was a reg i would also be more inclined to check back the flop because probably we wouldn't get paid that much but given that he is a fish i think we have enough implied odds to start building a pot OTF and get called by worse hands than our flush if we hit it.

I would 3bet bigger preflop as we are OP maybe to (1,20-1,30).

On the flop i think it's better to c-bet since this flop is not good for both ranges, but as we have the initiative we should just take advantage of it.

Just my 2cents.

On this kind of flop (only one suit) i prefer to lead especially with the initiative and OP, because we will take down the pot some times and if he calls we can narrow his range much more accurately making the rest of the pot much easier to play. If we check here he can always keep a much wider range either checking back or beting which put's us on a lot of weird spots OTT.

For example on this turn has played he can have poket pairs something like 77-JJ(QQ), a flush that he didn't bet on flop for deception or pure air, so if you had c-bet the flop he would have folded all is air that he can now bet and maybe even some of his pairs.

I agree with you about BB range when he pots it on this flop, so don't you think it would be better to jam now on this flop making him probably fold is fd (not allowing him to realize that equity) instead of just paying on the flop to jam the turn on non diamonds?

But i think this is the correct place on the forum to show this kind of hands (beats & brags) when i post hands for review by the other members i post on the Omaha section ;)

Yap, it happens to everyone that plays poker

Thanks for your comment, has i said i only raised here because it was a limped pot and i wanted to push a bit of equity with my AA altough they weren't good AA, so i agreed with you about not being necessary to 3-bet here, but i think given the small size of the pot it might be better to 3-bet and lower the SPR.

On the flop i think you are spot on, it was a missjudgement and i should have definitly bet/jam this flop.

I agree with Pokergirlcruz, i would only open this if the BTN, SB, and BB were tight, and if i opened it i would never call a 3bet with this hand.

As played preflop i think your best option here is to jam the flop, since you hit one of the few good flops for your hand.

As soon as i clicked the check button on the flop i realized that was a mistake.

And i agree with you about checking the river if the turn bettor was next to act after us.

I said his range was very heavy on full houses when he bets that turn, but has you said i can include some fd + wrap on his range to, and that was what made me call the turn, if i was sure he had already a full house i would not call that turn bet.

On the river my plan in game was to probably b/f the river if i had hit my club, altough now i don't think that was the best option, so maybe c/f on this spot would have been better, what do you think?

On this kind of situations (SPR under 1) i shove every time, even against a nit like this player. Of course betting small to call a shove has it's, but i think that is callling range here will be the same as if we would bet small to call a shove, since he knows that after our flop bet he will always get called.

Preflop my decision toi 3-bet or not would depend on what i think of the BB. If BB had a high fold% to 3-bet i would 3-bet trying to isolate BTN since from the BTN his range is wide and our kings are good enough to 3-bet his range, and we could probably have c-bet with success on a large number of flops. 

I would only call preflop here on 3 situations:

   1 - He opened from UTG or HJ (against those ranges i think and OP i think our KK were not good enough to 3-bet);

   2 - The pot was already multiway;

   3 - If i tought that there was a high probability BB would call my 3-bet;

If your kings were double suited i think i would follow the same line of thought, but maybe i'm wrong and it would always be a 3-bet :s

On the flop is all standard, on the turn i don't know if it is correct to call (in game i would probably do it has you did), but now analysing it i think that a lot of his calling range on the flop and after his turn bet when the board pairs, were sets (66,JJ) i don't know if he would 3-bet a set of J on that flop, but he can also a lot of A:dd on his range anyway you would be almost dead in both cases.

As played, on the river is a good fold.

Just saw this, great article ;)

Agree with ZenFish, i would probably c/c this flop from my experience at these stacks the players don't fold flush draws on the flop and it would wrong to do so because even if you pot it they always have immediate odds to call it (unless it's a bad flush draw), so by betting here you would never fold a flush draw and would be called or raised by made hands or made hands + flush draw, you would also need to discount at least 3 outs from your wrap outs, so you would have only about 24% to make the nuts with that wrap by the river, which is not much.

You are right, against that new range i would be a ~31% underdog, i definitely need to be more careful when playing this kind of hands.

Thanks

Yes i agree with you both, i think i over think this when playing because of the times i've seen him doing this with a pure bluff, but you are 100% right about bet folding here i will definitely work my game on this kind of spots and stick to an ABC strategy which is better specially for noobs like me.

But don't you think that even tough our 7 blocker, he can still have lots of combination with a 7 given this is PLO and that with his tendencies it is to much to pot the turn?

Thanks for your commentary! 

Here on this spot i would x/f or b/f depending on the reads you have on the villain, i would not x/c because the turn will be very hard to play unless we get the 3T that don't complete the hearts flush.

This is a mistake that i've been doing a lot, my study yesterday was basically reviewing this spots from my HM, and it is ridiculous the amount of money i lost x/c this kind of spots.

I had no special reads on him, the deciding factor was is AG% and the fact that i've not seen that many passive players as this one at this stakes making a Pot sized bet on the river OP and without initiative without the nuts. 

So i really don't know if folding this river was a big mistake or not, after the hand i asked him which hand did he had and he told AA, don't know if its true or not of course.

I agree with you about bet sizing tells, and when i play against regs who know me better i use always the same sizes depending only on the wet/dry board, but here against unknowns who have never played a hand with me i think there is no need to get worry with that.

Thanks ;)

That's one of my objectives, to post at least 2 hands a day here on the forum and comment on at least 3 hands 

I make a note on him, and even today i played a few more hands with him and it looks like he always limps big pairs, today i've seen him limp KKds from the BTN and QQss from the CO after it got folded to him.