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The Monker-trees aren't included in the deal? Negotiable?

A poker-philosopy video from Sauce! Any angle on it as he wants, how to reflect over some GTO-concepts, made assumptions, arguements, scientific method - I dont know, anything philosophy related from Ben would be awesome.

A variety of different hands. You dont want youre bluffs to be too concentrated to the same outs, since you won't be able to capitalize on your range advantage when theese hit if your'e range is built up from str8draws (now made str8s) and made hands.

A778,K:rr that will have a hard time realizing its EQ when check called and is blocking his continuing range, the hands you mentioned, etc etc. You can choose many different hands, which is what you should, but they should'nt be x/raising with a 100% freq.

Im with you.

Our hand is in the bottom 35% of our $3b4i range vs a $FI20 open on this board and will perform really bad against a flop call it off range.

If we dont have As here FI will stack off the flop about 50% of the time, and about 37,5% when we do have it. Even with As, and the added FE, our EVjam is about $5,21 against his preflop range, which isn't fantastic considering that our EQ share hand vs range OTF is 11,26(50% of the pot).

Our chback range will perform badly on especially spades, and also on most of the straightening turns, here's a EQ-graph for the turn when we check back flop
I have us jamming flop with (AA,KK,QQ):(AK+,QK+,ss),ss,T2+(70%). Checking back my naked AA and high wraps, because they doesn't perform that well getting it in, and should be able to attain a higher EV by checking back and getting paid on these straightening turns/rivers where FI should be putting a lot of pressure? With my high wraps I'm pushing him away from a decent portion of lower str8 draws that we should have crushed.

I'm in a bit of a hurry, and managed to put in wrong stack sizes/pot size when I began my analysis so I had to restart, but it would be interesting to here what range you guys would push on the flop and what you would check back. What hands can improve their EV the most by checking back?

deciphered: His calling range have you crushed and when you have 2p+fd you won't need much protection against foldingrange anyways.

Won't this range leave our checking range very weak?

The board favours BUs range tho, especially if he's potting pre, and being in position on a draw heavy board is a nice thing.

What would you size on a draw heavy board in a spot like this? Where we have a range advantage but the flop straight distrubution is about equal, and our range needs a ton of protection.

Interesting that you would check sets and bet two pairs. Sets push alot more EQ vs a calling range but also needs alot less protection vs his folding range, and both can only value bet when they hit a full house.

What bluffs would you have to balance your value if you bet 2/3 on the river @ 13:40? when flop went x/c, turn x/x.

You can group together turns and rivers, but you have to include every turn and river, otherwise the three doesn't run.

It's extremely time consuming but you learn a lot

The humming sound that everyone hears has little to do with the headset. There is something wrong with the recording or the computer recording it. You might want someone to take a look at your computer. Test your RAM with a RAM check program and check your harddrive. Im a sessoned computer technican and im pritty sure changing your headset will not make any diffrence.

What we hear is not noice from a broken microphone, what we hear is the consequence of freezelags and these can be due to RAM or HDD failure and in some cases software issues.

Bottom right 41:00 on 566hh, why do you think Oddsen might be checking back AA:hh? I think BERRI will be calling with KJ often on the river? Blocking youre value range and also getting Oddsen fold AK,AA hands that beats him. How light will you be shoving for value? If you had bluffed with this one, those hands seems like pretty easy call, havent done any math though.

47:15 in the 3bet pot top left against Durian. shouldnt his blockers be very bad? Considering that your bluff shoves on the turn mainly are backdoor draws, which he blocks? Should probably be a pretty easy call if you jam K786 and stuff like that though. What range do you think he peels flop with?

What hands should we ch/call this river with? I feel like when we have a straight/flush/set here we'd rather bet them to make villain hero-call, but that leaves us with a fairly weak check-range.

Great vid! But next time, could you choose hands where the bet-sizes we are faced with when in a decision for a hero call isn't a pot bet? I feel as if 1/2 and 3/4 pot bets are more frequent when playing, that's why.

Oh, I missunderstood. Well, I guess the best way to do it is to just put a lot of time off table. Then you'll have a good understanding of how many % of your range is X. It will be easier for you if you categorize you range in to different sections, and this way you should be able to play your range pretty balanced in spots were your range is more narrow, for example 3b pots in some positions and UTG/MP opens.

Pokerjuice does this, with alot of other functions.

Would'nt it make sense too develope different sizing strategies post flop and use a random number generator pre flop to decide which strat to use post flop?

This way OOP will build his checking range with the wrong asumptions. For example when BU checks behind flop OOP will check too many strong hands to c/r turn when BU bets his small and thin protection size, but when he insteds begins too check behind hands like that they now gets to realize their EQ, and will effect youre hands that want two streets of value that will loose alot in EV.

I know that Phil Galfond have talked about this in a video.

Btw, wouldn't it be a good thing that when you start a game vs a new opponent, that you would use one strategy in the begining, wait until you see that you're opponent have made the adjustment too that strategy and then begin too use the strategy the most exploitative strategy against his adjustment?

Hi Phil. I know that you discussed making a theory/concept video on monotone boards in a recent video thread. Tbh I would rather have you make a theory video about leading turns, its a trickier concept and one where many people do alot of mistakes, wheter the mistakes are not leading, or leading the wrong range.

Keep on the good work, gl.

24:24, with the Q7o. You say that villain has fewer flushes if the flush-card that hits is a higher one. And that there are more flushes in his range if the 2 and Q were to change color with each other. Is that because of the fact that if he was holding 2x with a flush draw he would be more inclined to check than to bet, hence giving him fewer flushdraws in his betting range when the Q is heart? Or how do you mean?

I would definitely want too watch a therory video on the topic of monotone boards, or really any concept.

Im interested in how your set-up with the treadmill is looking like, gonna fix one myself. Thanks

You should look up Daniel Dvoress series "Valuebluffing"

around 32:00 you discuss the 3b pot, sb vs bu, with 2299 where the flop is 268hh. You state that it will be hard to build a c/r range as the 3bettor. How come? Or du you just mean when we are this deep?

edit: oh, well. after looking in PJ I can see how narrow the range actually is, especially since we want some nutflushes when we c/c and bet

1-a% is is a constant that is introduced in The Mathematics of Poker and is used to determine our minimum defence frequency.

To calculate alpha you can do this calculation:

A=B/B+1

Where B is the ratio of what villain is risking to what he can win (betsize/potsize).

So lets say that villain is betting 1/2 pot on the river, our 1-a calculation would look like 0.5/(0,5+1)=0.33.

1-a=1-0.33=0.66, which is our minimum defense freq.

Our minimum defense frequency is the frequency at which our opponent cant make auto money by betting any two cards against us.

To make this concept a bit more clear I take a blind vs blind scenario. If we open SB to 3x, we risk 2.5 big blind to win 1.5 big blind (the big blind and the small blind that we already have invested). So the calculation is:

2.5/1.5 (how much we risk/how much we win)=1.6

1.6/2.6=a=0.62

1-0.62=0.38=38%= minimum defense freq

If he defends exactly 1-a then our bluff will be 0ev (if they realize 0% of their equity that is). For example a river scenario where we bet a pot sized bet, villains MDF% will be 50% because if he defends 50% then our bluff will have exactly 0ev. We bet 1000 into 1000 and 50% we win the pot and 50% we get called on the river and looses. The EV calc will look like this:

0.5*1000=500 (half of the times he folds and we win the pot)

0.5*-1000=-500 (half of the time he calls and we looses our bet of 1000)

500-500=0= our ev with our bluffs.

Lets say that he insteads bluffcatches too little and only calls our pot sized bet 25% of the time then our bluffs will make money and we will be able to just bluff complete air 100% of the time and make a profit.

0.25*-1000= -250 (the times he calls)

0.75*1000=750 (the times he folds)

750-250=500=the ev of our bluffs.

What we are trying to accomplish with defending at least MDF is to make our opponent indifferent from bluffing or checking, so lets say that our opponents EV of checking down a river is 200, then we should defend enough so that the EV of betting isnt better than 200 for or villain, not better than 0. Same concepts apply on earlier streets, its just a bit more difficult to calculate.

A bit of a messy explanation but hopefully the message got through

In the previous comments you talked about a 1/3 pot bet sizing when our range contains few bluffs. I can think of many spots where we check call flop as pfr and turn go check check, where our range is very showdownheavyb on the river. Could leading 1/3 pot with our range on these run outs be a good strategyon the river?

Should we check call with less showdown value as pfr too be able to represent more air on later streets? What hands would we then want to check call with? Those with most implied odds, most eq vs villains betting range rather than his calling range, thoose which looses the most EV when gets raised?

Great videos.

edit: in which video did you talk about donking turns polarized instead of linear?

Ye, great series!

How come you think he is more likely to bet A6 and K7 than TPWK?

Great video, as always. I have a suggestion/request for your next video series - a series about realizing equity. For example how much equity we realize with different hands preflop, because it will effect our steals/defends by a ton. Also post flop, since it will effect our defending range on previous streets.

In Value Bluffing (part 4) you estimated how much equity you thought you were going to realize, maybe you could elaborate on that? What main factors to consider etc.

edit: lol, I wasn't aware of the video tyler posted on the subject yesterday. Haven't watched it yet however but I still think an in dept series would be great.

Balancing multiple betsizes is very difficult. The value part is often fairly easy but to have a well balanced bluffing range to the different sizes is hard since you will need some system to not let hands slip into wrong size, making the ranges unbalanced. I would imagine many low/mid/low highstakes are pretty expoitable when using multiple sizings and reads on the player, general timing tells, timings tells previous in the hand and such would be the way to best think a way to know which sizing is the too bluff heavy one imo.

With that said, I too use multiple bet sizes, but I'm sure they aren't balanced because if they were I would know :D. I don't even think you gain THAT much ev from multiple bet sizes?

And often you should def be way skewed and unbalanced in many spots since the player pool have such leaks. for example overfolding a tonne making us inclined to valuebluff more, not value betting good on rivers/bluffing enough on rivers which probably gives us more incitement to call turns wider etc.

Fooold,srsly what bluffs do you guys that wanna call think that he can have? More than kqcc? He can def have some % of sets, all aj and he is a super nit so he won't turn a j into a bluff ever(would that be +ev under some circumstances?)

Bet is probably best since he still will call most fds since he will have a gs to go with them (if I didn't and instead would have to fold would be pretty catastrophic), but considering how poor eq he will have when he's behind, and the fact that we wont be able to get two more streets when we don't improve to a flush) plus the fact that we get full stack from flushes and aj/sets when we check back turn and hit a flush river anyways can maybe make it a check back

I really like how you approach this spot. You´re very pedagogic and your videos (whatched them all) have definitely improved my game, both how i analyse situations off table but mostly how to apply the theory in game, while playing.

Thanks!