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Probably I play the same. Open seems fine, flop cbet seems fine. Once called, usually there is some range of Tx, Overpairs with or without fd, Low straight draws with or without fd and sometimes with a pair. The odd time somebody will call you with bottom 2 pair or a low set.

You are likely behind this range, even on the turn, but the question is - does enough of it fold to a barrel to make it worthwhile? The 9 hits the Txxx range pretty hard, overpairs with fd won't fold and have good equity (and maybe improved).

To me, it seems prudent to check back, with your nut flush draw, Ace and pair and see a river. River hits the T and villain pots. I'd fold. You beat the missed straight draw part of his range, but you lose to an awful lot of his potting range.

Yeah, I don't expect the 3bettor to fold very often. I expect the original raiser to fold a good amount.

lighter 3bettor range includes lots of hands I do very well against like Q, J & T hi ds rundowns. I expect to get called by those and win via flop shove or when we both hit but I hit better.

In the actual hand, the 3better had top of his range - double suited Aces with one of my suits covered, he shoved, I called and lost.

3bet is fine. When villains raise flop, usually you are beat, and they rarely, if ever fold after they raise. So you don't have FE and villain likely has you beat. So I think you should just fold.

In my experience, raise = big hand - top 2, set, or some monster draw (although they tend to more often call than raise).

I think you get shown AA with flush draw here a whole lot when villain 3bets and pots the flop.
Still, we cannot fold.

Agreed, I just pot it here.
You will still get hands like 9987, JT87 with T-hi spades, AAJT with spades and of course naked 99 to play along.

There are too many cards where you won't know what to do to be worth slowplaying. I guess only offsuit 2, 3 and 4 give you any confidence, so I repot.

Betting the flop is fine, but is a good board for evil villains to attack you light. I don't think I see much light attacking though, which makes betting a good option, because if you get raised you can safely fold and you get him to fold a bunch of things with good equity against your hand. Half pot is likely enough to get it done. Most villains won't bluff raise as they expect AAxx to stack off on this board.

I'd bet here. You have a reasonable chance of having the best hand, you have 2 nut bdoor flush draws, a gutter and some two-pair/trip outs that might be good.

I'd probably pot/call

This is an interesting hand.
This deep, it is hard to see villains stuffing such large quantities of money into the pot with naked AAxx. On an 89x board, he bets, gets called and then when the turn puts fd, he fires pot.

In my experience of these stakes, you are often facing a set, 2pair +fd, a big wrap + fd or an outside chance of overpair + fd (often with a gutter or a pair from the board).

I'd estimate you are toast vs that turn potting range.
I think you should fold, although I usually don't and then I usually regret it.

At these stakes - I think you should pot/call here.
While we are blocking normal, reasonable, continuing ranges, villains have tendencies to call with lots of suspect stuff.
Worst case, villain has 3x4x or 55xx and you are in trouble.Even still, you have reasonable equity. Most of the time, villains have have Qxxx with weak diamonds. Or Q5xx or 25xx. Or KKxx with diamonds. Or just KKxx with no diamonds.

Based on what I'm seeing in similar spots, I fold the flop here. When shorty leads pot, he most often has a strong made hand such as a set or top 2. In your best case he has a wrap or a pair+wrap. Either way, you are often in bad shape.

Additionally, you aren't closing the action, and you have a deeper stack behind you.

I fold to the flop pot bet.

Normally I just fold here. I'd want a bunch of reads before continuing here.
I don't find many villains taking us on with bare top pair.
Your bet sizing is fine. You could go half pot if you wanted, which would also be fine as the board is so dry.
That he raises with button yet to act is an even clearer indication of strength.

fwiw - I don't always 3bet this AA when out of position. It's ok, being single suited, but not super given it's disconnected. But you are oop, and both are likely to call, which leaves you kinda guessing postflop most of the time.

I think a bet is fine, to help stubborn AAxx to fold.
His line looks an awful lot like AA56 or something like that. I think your bet is good, you would certainly call a pot bet with this hand on the turn, so it seems fine to bet hard and try to get additional fold equity instead of checking to try to hit and get paid.

Either line is good, but this board seems better for your range than his, so I like your bet/call line.

You could check/raise the river.

This one is confusing.
I'm not sure why you want to turn your hand into a bluff.
You have a strong hand that might be the best hand, or can draw to make the best hand. Your best line is to keep his bluffs in, so you get value when you are ahead.
Taking the line you take means you get all his money in the middle only when you are ahead.

If you are behind, you have lots of outs and if you are ahead you want him to keep bluffing.
I guess the only reason I can see for raising is to try to get Q9x to fold.

I think call is far superior to raising here.

I'd bet the flop TBH. I'd frequently bluff this board after raising, so I need to bet it with a real hand. There are also a bazillion draws out there, so players can float and call with draws.

As played, check-raise is probably the play, because too often it goes check/check on the river if you call and check.

I'd prefer bet the flop, then chk/callthe turn if you want to get fancy, repping AA/KK or something and let him try to blow you off/value bet his flush.

Once he bets that size on the flop, he isn't folding. Save your money.

I'd fold preflop before I opened.
I'd fold preflop to the 3bet
I wouldn't lead the flop. If you really want to bluff, better to check/raise.
I wouldn't check/raise the turn when villain bets so large. Villains never fold when they do and usually have you crushed.

I guess your hand is pretty weak. You can try a steal, but once you get caught, time to dump it in the muck.

Fun thread. Thanks for all the responses.

I decided to lead for pot with my OESD and pair. Villain shoved, I called.
He showed AsTs3d2d and my hand stood up.

I think I should have 4bet this hand vs this villain.

I have an OESD on this board to go with my JJ.

Once you bet, I think you need to call.

OTT - the most obvious draw hit, so I tend to check-back.

This generated a lot of fun debate, with all 3 options recommended. Nice work everybody. I guess it is an interesting spot.

In the hand, I called.

Flop Qs Ts 4d.

I'm OOP - your move?

Thank you guys. In the actual hand I called the original PFR because my hand plays well in high SPR situations when in position and the original raiser was quite aggro, so I felt I could disguise my hand and maybe get a nice situation for myself. Also, the aggro reg in the BB could 3bet.

3betting is a good option in the first place.
Glad to see my move wasn't super stupid.

In the actual hand, of course, villain shoved, I called and his AAxx was the winner.