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Tdot6

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Rarely 3 bet those for myself. 1 example when I would - opportunity against a weak player that folds / calls way too much to 3 bets and only 4 bets w/ QQ+, AK type hands (plays almost 'face up' to anyone paying any attention... a live 1/3 nl game as an example, not everyone pays attentionm :) . Action wise (example) i would 3 bet 55 in CO/BTN to his open if no one else has entered. We make $$$ as he'll fold pf too often, and when he calls he needs to 'hit' flop to continue... (basically he folds a ton post to c bet so we make $$$ that way to). We won't hits sits all that often so I don't really like calling (or folding) in that spot. Situations where I'd call in that spot w/ 55 in CO is where he opens and you get 2 calls - I'd rather call there.. hopefully invite the few other players left in and we mine for our set.

April 17, 2015 | 3:31 a.m.

I wouldn't bother w/ a limp re-raise approach for your 3 bets. Continue open raising business as usual - always attack the blinds, and go from there. If you want to be tougher to play against then ya add to your 3 betting range ... but there are just much better hands to start adding then 85o, 23s, etc :). I much rather see you 3 betting a hand like 109s, 87s, etc - probably more often against the reg's (they will give you credit as they barely see you 3 bet), and doing so in position...... or in a "good spot" - like outta the sb to a CO open (assuming you're in a game where people generally open lighter in later pos). I adjust my range to the table and who's to my right. You mentioned a hand like 99's - I'm not auto 3 betting that 100% of the time... depends who opened, where I'm sitting, how many guys in, etc. I guess what I'm saying is it won't be black and white. I hate 3 betting A rag though. I usually fold those even if suited.

As your 3 bet range becomes more balanced you will get more action and you will be harder to play against. Also depends on the game.. ex/ 1/2 nl balance is not as important as 2/5.

April 14, 2015 | 11:37 p.m.

April 13, 2015 | 4:22 a.m.

Good question, appreciate your thoughts. So my image would've been "solid" but more on the laggy side in that game. I was 3 betting more than normal - guys on my right played weak / horribly to 3 bets... calling too much vs 4 betting or folding - and then playing pretty bad post. Was having a lot of fun being overly spewy against them - was really effective (not exactly GTO lol, but the guys were letting me get away w/ murder so I couldn't resist)! Given this, I was thinking that utg+1 raiser may not be as 'honest' as usual had I 3 bet and that also played into the "just call" vs 3 bet pf decision. Post flop, I also like your idea of call flop and re-evaluate / muck on later streets if villain keeps firing (agree - tough for him to keep barrelling). I believe folding flop (in that particular game) woulda been the best line looking back ...just b/c there were better spots for me to pick up pots. With the fold flop line, I guess worst case I make a bad fold - but minimal invested / small pot so nothing to lose sleep over. I knew I played the hand badly w/ my 3 bet flop and bet turn line.... You know, thinking back, I was also really tired at that point and prob should've quit earlier (just something for me to think about and be more self aware). Basically my "A" game doesn't go to my B game when I'm tired - it goes to D game. Not the case for everyone, but I know for me it makes a huge difference.

April 10, 2015 | 10:19 p.m.

Thanks for the feedback guys!!
Long term best ev play is that I should've folded flop (taaazz's logic).

I could've found a better spot, esp in that game. No need to play that bloated of a pot in a situation where I'm in bad shape far too often.

Not crazy about 3 betting pf - wouldn't change much there / flatting pf is best imo. I just didn't want to play against a solid opponent with a strong range oop.

April 10, 2015 | 3:22 a.m.

What do you guys think?...

We have AQ off in BB (9 handed). Solid player opens from utg+1 to $20, called in mid, we complete from BB. Flop q73 (2 clubs - we have none). We check, utg+1 C bets $35, gets raised from mid pos plr (we have seen him raise fold flop to 3 bet earlier - even after putting in 60% of his stack - at the time was 400)...anyhow mid raises flop to $85... we 3 bet to $190. Utg+1 folds. Mid calls. Turn card Kd. We...?
(Stack sizes are around 120 BB. Pot size bet remaining).

What's your action on the turn and why?

Cheers,
T.

April 6, 2015 | 11:06 p.m.

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