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Robwa

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Long post hopefully you'll find time to answer this :)

@ Akira - Effective stacks ~ 65bb. I doubt we happily get in 77-AJ either. more likely to flat those, and 3bet (which can induce a lot of flats given stackdepth) some of the better (dominating - KQs QJs) suited broadways along with ATs (for playability he can still flat a big chunk of his Axs range, AQo+ should be fine aswell.

This would give us 8 (suited broadways), 6 (suited ATs + 50% AJs not 100% happy to call to a jam), ~about 14 combo's of playable hands where on the other side we should have
99-AA (probably 3bet 99 only ~50% of the time with intention gii) 30 value combo's in pairs
AJs-AKs (50% AJs not necessarily gii pre) 14 combo's
AQo-AK 24 combo's

  • 78 value combo's to which we still need about ~85 bluff combo's or so. (default to not fold to his 4bet more than 45% of the time)

If we add in some playable hands that he might flat (aforementioned KQs QJs - 8 combo's) we can possibly still add in some more of those. To make our bluff range bit stronger

Agree on suited gappers lets say we take 58s 74s T7s 97s ~still only 16 combo's

Makes me think if our value range is this wide.

Suited broadways
a) Do you like to expand it with suited broadways, as decent floppable hands just to counter our value-ish range
b) Merit vs not seeing a flop with those hands (due to 4bet and have to fold) versus initiative pre-flop ?
Another argument against this is that once we 3bet lets say QTs (instead of the stronger suited broadways) we likely fold out all his worse Tx (and Qx), excluding T9s, giving us unfavorable implied odds

Argument in favor is having initiative (although OOP), and building up a somewhat stronger 3betbluff range. Although not necessary stronger if we look at his flats

c) Up to 30bb I agree that in the majority of the time we should just flat suited broadways oop here. ~40bb likely a threshold to do something different with it (?).

In general:

How would you go about constructing the # of combo's you want to balance against your value-range. If it is this hard for us to find enough combo's against this, shouldnt we just tighten our value-range and have a stronger check range?

Jan. 23, 2016 | 12:45 p.m.

Hand History | Robwa posted in MTT: $PROG27KO T7s
Blinds: t60/t120 (9 Players) CO: 4,788
BN: 5,580
SB: 9,079
BB: 9,110 (Hero)
UTG: 5,683
UTG+1: 4,025
MP: 3,909
MP+1: 5,045
MP+2: 1,024
Preflop (180) Hero is BB with 7 T
6 folds, BN raises to 240, SB folds, Hero raises to 640, BN calls 400
Flop (1,475) 3 3 5
Hero bets 680, BN calls 680
Turn (2,835) 3 3 5 4
Hero bets 1,220, BN calls 1,220
River (5,275) 3 3 5 4 A
Hero bets 6,555 and is all in, BN calls 3,025 and is all in

Jan. 22, 2016 | 11:07 p.m.

Comment | Robwa commented on J9o 5way on 894cc

Thanks for the input, appreciated and agree!

Jan. 22, 2016 | 9:37 p.m.

Hand History | Robwa posted in MTT: Big $55: TT vs a BB defend on
Blinds: t75/t150 (9 Players) MP: 2,725
MP+1: 4,894
MP+2: 3,327
CO: 4,192 (Hero)
BN: 4,217
SB: 5,285
BB: 4,035
UTG: 5,537
UTG+1: 6,055
Preflop (225) Hero is CO with T T
5 folds, Hero raises to 315, 2 folds, BB calls 165
Flop (885) 2 6 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 418, BB raises to 1,050, Hero folds
Final Pot BB wins 1,721

Jan. 22, 2016 | 9:36 p.m.

Minute 14: given stackdepth Lets say you did 3bet the Q8s pre and flop comes as it is QKx with bdfd do you cbet or check behind, and why?

Jan. 21, 2016 | 7:57 p.m.

Comment | Robwa commented on ProView: $11c (part 4)

@around minuten 28-30 when we are in the BB +- 25x ES VS 19/12 MP1 open. You say A4o if fine eitherway. How do you feel about 76o/87o/98o type of hands. Assuming al suited low(double) gappers are a call.

Jan. 21, 2016 | 5:02 p.m.

Comment | Robwa commented on ProView: $11c (part 3)

@minute +-35 Lets assume we did open our suited wheel and the flop comes as it was A27cc giving US the NFD and toppair.

Do you like to have this hand in our checkback range (22x effective stack SPR 4:1 otf (80k:320k)? If so how do you feel our check back range should look like here? QQ- KK (bet 66-JJ for protection) AT, some AJ and some total whiffs 33-44-55 QTs without backdoors? Does it even make sense to add A5s (NFD) here if we probably also add each A5s(also the one with a bdfd) here without a NFD otf, meaning our checkback range is already quite strong.

Thanks in advance

Jan. 21, 2016 | 1:28 p.m.

Comment | Robwa commented on ProView: $11c (part 2)

@KTs i like a 3bet pre (playabe hand IP), Lets say we did 3b pre (~27k, potsize OTF: 70k, SPR +- 2:1)

Do you deel we should cbet the KQ8 flop in that case. Why would/ would you not?

He can probably call 1 street w KJs,AQo,AQs, QJs,QTs, aswell as with KQo,KQs,KTs and likely fold the rest of his range. (I.e he has more Qx than Kx in his range)

Merits of pot control checking the flop bet turn and check river versus bet flop and check check? I assume in both cases we only go for one street? Or perhaps 30%, check, 30%? Or does this line also makes us too vulnerable to C/r

Jan. 21, 2016 | 12:02 p.m.

Comment | Robwa commented on ProView: $11c (part 2)

AKs spot: how do you feel about AKO in this spot (flat pre 4betjam after squueze?

What about AQo or a hand like 99-TT
JJ likely a 4betjam and flat at first no?

Jan. 21, 2016 | 11:45 a.m.

Minuten 24-25 assuming you arr the villain here with the ATs hand, would you prefer a 3bet here? Its a hand that has decent playability and dienst necessarily need to fold to 4bet. What do you think a decent 3bet range is here (99+, AQ+,AJs+ value but what hands for Bluff/ to play better in the 3betpot as opposed to flat?)

Assuming hero opens ~50% btn

Jan. 20, 2016 | 4:51 p.m.

03:00-4:00 isnt it better to fold pre here with non suites, non broadways Kx (like our K8o)

Jan. 20, 2016 | 3:24 p.m.

Hand History | Robwa posted in MTT: J9o 5way on 894cc
Blinds: t15/t30 (9 Players) SB: 3,685
BB: 1,995 (Hero)
UTG: 2,875
UTG+1: 2,755
MP: 2,204
MP+1: 3,731
MP+2: 3,175
CO: 2,600
BN: 4,130
Preflop (45) Hero is BB with J 9
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to 60, 2 folds, MP+2 calls 60, CO calls 60, BN calls 60, SB folds, Hero calls 30
Flop (315) 8 9 4
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 150, MP+2 folds, CO folds, BN raises to 420, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds

Jan. 18, 2016 | 7:45 p.m.

Hand History | Robwa posted in MTT: 99 facing EP 38x open
Blinds: t40/t80 (9 Players) BN: 2,655
SB: 7,147 (Hero)
BB: 2,097
UTG: 1,442
UTG+1: 2,819
MP: 2,640
MP+1: 3,738
MP+2: 5,755
CO: 9,048
Preflop (120) Hero is SB with 9 9
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to 184, 4 folds, BN calls 184, Hero calls 144, BB folds
Flop (722) 2 9 6
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, BN bets 249, Hero calls 249, UTG+1 folds

Jan. 18, 2016 | 6:07 p.m.

John how do you counter the fact that T high flops or better occur with a much higher frequency (if im not mistaken 67% of the time) as opposed to the flops where we, obviously due to inclusion of the subset of hands that perform well on9 high boards or worse, generate a higher R.
Yes we perform better on boards with more low cards but the frequency of having such a board is also much lower.

Yes you state that you are aware of this, but there must be more to that. Thanks in advance

Jan. 17, 2016 | 9:46 p.m.

Hand History | Robwa posted in MTT: $13,5KO double barrel OTR/OTR versus give up
Blinds: t800/t1,600 (8 Players) MP: 36,031
UTG+1: 37,429
MP+1: 63,664
CO: 25,115
BN: 98,660
SB: 59,198
BB: 65,293 (Hero)
UTG: 75,570
Preflop (2,400) Hero is BB with 6 A
UTG folds, MP raises to 3,424, UTG+1 folds, MP+1 calls 3,424, 3 folds, Hero calls 1,824
Flop (12,672) 8 Q 6
Hero checks, MP checks, MP+1 bets 6,336, Hero calls 6,336, MP folds
Turn (25,344) 8 Q 6 K
Hero bets 13,600, MP+1 calls 13,600
River (52,544) 8 Q 6 K 2
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 26,272, Hero folds
Final Pot MP+1 wins 52,544

Jan. 3, 2016 | 12:01 a.m.

Hand History | Robwa posted in MTT: $BIG55 jam> call ?
Blinds: t75/t150 (9 Players) BB: 3,897 (Hero)
UTG: 3,291
UTG+1: 1,731
MP: 5,703
MP+1: 5,679
MP+2: 5,521
CO: 4,042
BN: 7,945
SB: 2,945
Preflop (225) Hero is BB with 9 T
5 folds, CO raises to 300, BN calls 300, SB folds, Hero calls 150
Flop (1,155) 5 Q 4
Hero checks, CO checks, BN bets 455, Hero calls 455, CO folds
Turn (2,065) 5 Q 4 7
Hero checks, BN checks
River (2,065) 5 Q 4 7 3
Hero bets 883, BN folds

Jan. 2, 2016 | 11:51 p.m.

Blinds: t600/t1,200 (9 Players) MP: 161,418
MP+1: 4,398
MP+2: 47,735
CO: 60,204
BN: 127,998
SB: 21,170
BB: 37,596 (Hero)
UTG: 76,051
UTG+1: 19,861
Preflop (1,800) Hero is BB with 9 A
4 folds, MP+2 raises to 2,400, 3 folds, Hero calls 1,200
Flop (6,750) 9 A 4
Hero checks, MP+2 bets 2,400, Hero calls 2,400
Turn (11,550) 9 A 4 A
Hero checks, MP+2 checks
River (11,550) 9 A 4 A 6
Hero bets 4,955, MP+2 calls 4,955
Final Pot BB wins and shows a full house, Aces full of Nines.
BB wins 21,460

Jan. 2, 2016 | 10:44 p.m.

Blinds: t25/t50 (9 Players) BN: 828
SB: 3,100
BB: 4,533
UTG: 4,808 (Hero)
UTG+1: 2,865
MP: 3,350
MP+1: 3,555
MP+2: 3,000
CO: 3,680
Preflop (75) Hero is UTG with K J
Hero raises to 100, UTG+1 folds, MP raises to 250, 6 folds, Hero calls 150
Flop (575) 7 9 T
Hero checks, MP bets 230, Hero calls 230
Turn (1,035) 7 9 T 8
Hero checks, MP checks
River (1,035) 7 9 T 8 8
Hero bets 550, MP calls 550

Jan. 2, 2016 | 6 p.m.

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