PrettyInPink
21 points
Just check/call the flop. This pot is 4-way and you have lots of equity but a weak top pair that isn't thrilled about getting raised
As played the turn/river are fine. Make a note that BB is spewy and CO is passive
Dec. 13, 2019 | 12:06 p.m.
Lol. If your bet sizing reflects your hand strength then it's going to be pretty easy to play against you
You bluff to get your opponents to think you have a value hand (causing them to hopefully fold), so you need to bet like you have one or they won't be very convinced will they?
Also didn't you post the JTs hand where you pot the flop on 226r? Did you have value there?
You don't seem to have any plan when it comes to your bet sizing
Dec. 13, 2019 | noon
Yes
Dec. 13, 2019 | 11:53 a.m.
Consider check/back on this flop with AK. You have plenty of weaker hands that make better cbet bluffs. Nothing wrong with delayed c-bet on turn
As played... bet larger. If you have value here you want to charge flush draws, straight draws, etc, no? Why would you give them a great price to continue?
You could even overbet turn. You have 44/TT/JJ/KQ and potentially Q8s in your range, all of which want to maximize value before a 4-straight or spade river kills the action.
Dec. 13, 2019 | 11:50 a.m.
Raise larger pre to something like $0.20-0.24. You're out of position and multi-way
Not sure about flop. This isn't actually a good flop for our range so prefer checks but our specific hand is vulnerable. Perhaps bet larger and call off vs CO but consider folding if BN raises. Vs a shortstack and a station shove turn when called
As played check river and hope to get to showdown. When flush completes he may not continue with worse and he certainly has flushes here himself.
Dec. 13, 2019 | 11:38 a.m.
check/call turn
check/fold river
Make a note that this villain is very passive...
Dec. 13, 2019 | 11:24 a.m.
Pre is probably better as a flat. Plays fine multi-way
What was your rationale for potting it on the flop? You're multi-way, flop is super dry so you don't rep much, CO's range is skewed to pocket pairs which don't fold on this board, and this would be a strange line for value because it forces villains to fold so many weaker hands. Your bluff will be just as effective sized smaller - probably around 33% pot
As played obviously snap fold to the min-raise.
Dec. 13, 2019 | 11:16 a.m.
Is there an issue because this is from ipoker? I get an invalid hand error when I try to go to the next step...
The raw history I tried to paste in is below. I used the "Copy RAW hand history" option in pt4..
GAME #6146594818: Texas Hold'em NL €0.10/€0.20 2014-12-06 22:09:47/GMT
Table Speed Hold'em 3
Seat 1: 0dalv0 (€28.55 in chips)
Seat 3: juanmartin10 (€17.85 in chips)
Seat 5: nshgbt (€8.30 in chips)
Seat 8: NotMyJob (€29.14 in chips) DEALER
0dalv0: Post SB €0.10
juanmartin10: Post BB €0.20
* HOLE CARDS
Dealt to NotMyJob [C8 H7]
nshgbt: Fold
NotMyJob: Raise (NF) €0.40
0dalv0: Fold
juanmartin10: Call €0.20
FLOP [S7 D4 S8]
juanmartin10: Bet €0.63
NotMyJob: Raise (NF) €2.00
juanmartin10: Raise (NF) €4.83
NotMyJob: Raise (NF) Allin €28.74
juanmartin10: Allin €12.62
TURN [D5]
RIVER [C5]
SUMMARY *
Total pot €45.30 Rake €1.79
juanmartin10: Shows [C4 H4] Full House, Fours full of Fives
NotMyJob: Shows [C8 H7] Two Pair, Eights and Sevens
juanmartin10: wins €34.01
NotMyJob: wins €11.29
Thanks for the help.
Dec. 7, 2014 | 10:54 p.m.
Make a note that this is how he plays the nuts in case you sit with him again
Dec. 3, 2014 | 4:58 p.m.
Well played. Turn is a mandatory bet vs fish for the exact reasons you stated
Dec. 3, 2014 | 11:27 a.m.
What are thoughts on 3betting vs EP when we are in position? Say BN vs UTG or CO vs MP etc?
Dec. 3, 2014 | 11:03 a.m.
Assuming villain is unknown I'd rather just fold 77 OOP because you're otherwise basically calling to set-mine which we're not deep enough to do. If we know that villain is going to bluff 3betting hands like A9o IP then flatting becomes more reasonable
Dec. 3, 2014 | 10:26 a.m.
I definitely see the arguments for x/c flop. As played I think the river bet is good. I don't think he is double-floating you with Ax all that often so his range is going to be a lot more PPs which will likely check back river but call a bet.
Edit: If he did double float you with AK/AQ I would make a note of it
Dec. 1, 2014 | 1:28 p.m.
Doubt he has Q9 and I'm not sure he peels twice with TT so you're mostly behind slow-played 99 and QQ which is 4 combos of hands that beat you. Even if you add in TT that's 7 combos and he can just as easily show up with AQ, KK, AA here so I think it's an easy value shove on the river.
Nov. 27, 2014 | 3:57 p.m.
Agreed the sample is far too small to judge. That being the case I agree with JoINrbs, nothing wrong with having a 4bet/fold range though I wouldn't go too crazy with it at 10nl. Nothing wrong with flatting either assuming you play carefully post.
Nov. 25, 2014 | 3:32 p.m.
Vs this range: KK+, 88, TT, KTs, QJ, AK
We have 44.5% equity primarily due to the presence of QJ (our equity is 21% w/o QJ and 30% if we only include QJs)
Given his short stack and the low SPR, I would think he is going to shove here with QJ assuming it's in his 3b flatting range. This call is break-even provided he flats with 6 combos of QJ pre and becomes progressively more +ev the more combos of QJ he has in his range.
The problem here is it's very difficult to know if he's flatting with QJ pre due to the small sample size. I would lean more towards thinking that he is because of his short stack (suggesting he may be a fishier player).
Nov. 24, 2014 | 3:33 p.m.
Would you check back a turned diamond draw? I don't think you rep a flush very well here and you wouldn't raise Ax when the flush completes. So, you basically rep nothing.
Edit: Hadn't read the last part of your comments. In essence I agree that your raise does not look credible. I have no idea if he'd fold a hand like AK if you shove the river.
Nov. 24, 2014 | 3:18 p.m.
Seems fine as played but I think the float would be better with Ad. I agree his range looks mostly like weak Qx (he can have many given his wide BN open) and middling pairs.
What are the best rivers to barrel? Kd seems obvious but are we shutting down on something like 2d? Or, are we barreling all diamond rivers? Do we also want to barrel heart rivers? We can have both heart/diamond draws that stab on the turn.
Nov. 24, 2014 | 3:16 p.m.
Assuming he only does this with KK/AK we have 64.5% equity against him making this an easy call especially given that we can't assume he doesn't also do this with some combos of spade draws.
Nov. 24, 2014 | 3:10 p.m.
Assuming he cbets all of his AK, he'll have 16 combos of AK, 6 combos of AA, 3 combos of JJ, 3 combos of TT so AK makes up 57% of his range.
If he only cbets the AK with a FD or BDFD then he'll have 5 combos of AK, 6 combos of AA, 3 combos of JJ, 3 combos of TT, so AK will be 30% of range.
As you can see above, which combos of AK he uses to cbet is very important but we have no way of knowing with only 11 hands. I favour bet/folding turn because people at 10NL don't generally semi-bluff turns often enough so he's more likely to call with hands like AcKc/AdKd and more likely to raise with hands that have us crushed.
Nov. 5, 2014 | 5:04 p.m.
Readless I don't think it makes sense to assume he'll shove with his missed flush draws.
If we assume a value range of JJ, TT, AK (all combos), AA then you're good 43% of the time and this is a fold.
I think understanding if he'll cbet with AKo here is important. If he's only cbetting with AcKc, AdKd, AdKx (bdfd), JJ, TT, AA then our equity improves dramatically and we can call.
Nov. 5, 2014 | 4 p.m.
Are we assuming he checks back with AQ/AK? Those should be in his range to get to the turn...
Nov. 5, 2014 | 3:51 p.m.
With QQ I kindof like a x/c flop, x/r turn line. He has lots of FD + Gutshot combos on the turn which we don't block with QQ that will likely call the raise or potentially semi-bluff 3bet. We also rep a lot of turned draws and may get some lighter calls.
Oct. 31, 2014 | 4:02 p.m.
Both
Oct. 31, 2014 | 1:50 p.m.
I have a big enough sample but ranges from 2NL - 25NL :x
Oct. 27, 2014 | 4:54 p.m.
You have ~$6.7 left and a $7.85 pot. Jam
Oct. 23, 2014 | 4:47 p.m.
When someone min-bets treat it like they've checked (but conveniently have re-opened betting and allow you to build the pot). This should be closer to whatever your standard value bet would be, ~$2. Then river is an easier shove.
I don't think you should donk.
Oct. 22, 2014 | 12:14 p.m.
Is avg playerpool flatting a 3b as UTG with 88/99? Not saying they don't, just not sure.
In any case, looks fine as played and agree overall with nhilathak
Oct. 21, 2014 | 3:26 p.m.
Unless they have a very tight 3bet range, yes
Small sizing is better on uncoordinated boards where your opponent is going to have to fold often because they have minimal outs to improve their hand
On boards like this, villain has lots of draws that want to call so you bet large to either extract value or dissuade them from calling
Dec. 13, 2019 | 12:11 p.m.