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Are Swedes still banned????

Many mistakes in this hand .
Pre: just limp , you got non suited aces and this pot will be multiway even if you raise and you will be left with an overpair 80%+ on flops.
Flop: Easy checkfold 4way, This board hits so many ranges and every turn card in the deck is bad for you except the miracle 2 outer you hit.

I'm sorry if you explained the AQ in the video but I don't speak Portuguese. Exactly what are you trying to rep with that turn overbet and river shove? I can't think of one hand that makes sense taking that line, with KT you would cbet the flop, and pretty much all Axxss combos would also cbet the flop, and I dont really see the reason to 5x the pot on the river.

"Everything you’ve read so far is just a preview to this, the main event! Anonymous tables are much, much juicier than regular tables:

There are more called bets in each hand
More money is bet and called in each hand
The average size of each called bet is larger
The average pot size is larger
Essentially, more money changes hands in anonymous games, per hand dealt. This is the case at every stake, but is especially prominent in micro stakes, where the average amount bet and called per hand is a whopping 20% higher at Anonymous Tables than at regular tables, and the average bet size is 19% higher. Rake per hand is also higher at anonymous tables, which is expected given the larger pot sizes."

-It is not only my opinion, it is science. Of course there are players who play really bad and will still lose money.
-I don't think that Live play is the same as live poker. Online players are more skilled and have to deal with lots of players at the same time (Multi Tabling).
-I don't mind not having a hud but at least a good note taking system on players
-I love the fight with regs and the counter adjustments and this is on your site terminated
-Anonymous sites are like playing a pc game. I hate playing pc games. It is not personal. It is not a battle of minds and nerves. It is cold.

"We found the tipping point: skilled players can expect to do better than their relatively unskilled counterparts at least three quarters of the time after 1,471 hands have been played. In other words, poker becomes a game of skill after around 1,500 hands. "(https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-is-poker-a-game-of-chance-or-skill-39224) The reason is: one doesn't have enough information how villain plays her hand range.
Anonymous poker tables are a game of chance and not skill.

Liked this video a lot. I have only one suggestion: when nod locking on the river you should nod lock for raising ranges and calling ranges. It will significantly influence the betting range.

The success comes always with being in fashion (when drinking urine becomes fashion everyone will love to drink urine). When everyone talks about Stars than everyone wants to play on stars even if they don't play there and even if in my opinion their software is really ugly. I hate their colors, I hate their lobby and I hate their tables. The Fulltilt software was for example a sexy bitch.
Being in fashion primarily means that everyone talks about it. The difference between negative and positive is really marginal. So people should stop discussing Amaya and Pokerstars at all when Rio launches and instead starting lots of threads and discussions about Rio and act in a way as if Pokerstars doesn't exist.

I did give him following range in Pokerjuice
Preflop 70%!3b8o For BTN: FI50
Call: T98,J+,653+,(J,7,4):hh,63+:hh [50%]
Raise: 77+,J4+:hh,KK+:Khh+,(4,7,J+):56+:hh,56+:Qhh+ [8.5%]
These are just estimates. I don't know if he calls with weakest flushdraws or weak top pair/overpairs or not and I also don't know how is his raising range.

he ends up having 14% a straight and we have 36% equity
So it might end up being a close check or a mixed strategy
If we had around 30% equity (without any pair) I would bet
I don't think that his range changes a lot our equity and even if he had 20% a straight on this turn, I would still bet with 30% and play mixed with 36% equity.
I think if you check back most of your 865 and 653 on the flop than you will be exploitable when you should bet hands like this and should probably play a mixed strategy without pair, I guess we should bet at least 80% of our wraps on the flop to play a mixed strategy with a pair
last but not least: if he doesn't exploit you and raises only straights than I would bet 100% of the time with 36% equity

If poker is a game of skill than no anonymous tables. Anonymous tables turn poker into gambling. There are so many gambling opportunities other than poker and there are so many sites offering anonymous tables. If Phil's site is from poker players for poker players than no to anonymous tables.
What also makes poker nice is the history that you have with a player and is not a cold game like machines playing machines game.

I don't understand this theater about hud.
1) I would play fewer tables to get better reads. Instead of 6 tables I would play on 2. And my win rate would probably be higher because my reads were better. One would also develop a feeling for timing tells.
I would also spend more time reviewing sessions to take notes than grinding. All would cost the site rake and action.
2) HUD is as helping as misleading:
Someone cbets for example 62%. This is not very useful as long as you don't know: How often on which boards vs whom does villain cbet Air, Bottom 2, Top Pair, Over Pair, flush draws, straight draws.... And what kind of Air, Top Pair... does he bet or check.
3) People losing money slower or faster has way more something to do with:
- skill
- concentration
- nerves
- discipline
- work/training/discussion

But there should be a clearly visible information that in the market HUDs and training sites are available and that lots of people are using them so that everyone is informed and the rest is his own responsibility: How much time and money and effort one wants to invest.

Me too.
I hope you guys will launch a site where everyone around the world can play.
I also hope you guys will at least work to develop something like a peer to peer site for the future.
I know this global lawyer only form her tweets (@cduhaime from Canada) seems to be very competent regarding blockchain and btc etc...

Hope you will not repeat your book otherwise lots of people will pay a second time to learn the same stuff.
A concentration on things which you did leave out for example 3 bet pots etc. would be nice.
Welcome to RIO!

Thank you Phil for the nice vid and promoting 5c.
What helped me when beginning 5card PLO, I viewed every hand which was strong in PLO as viewing it stronger in 5 card and I viewed every hand which was weak in 4c as even weaker in 5c.
So if I was to think about a bluff raising range, than I did begin firstly to think about the bottom of my calling range in 4c and if it would make sense given board texture and opponent tendencies to bluff raise it.
Two examples:
Preflop
Lower rundowns become significatnly weaker, opening for example JT982 in early position is marginal at best. Runs often to KJT98, QJT98, AKT9....
Hands with strong flushes become significantly stronger: AK876:AxxKyy belong to most profitable 3 betting hands vs those who over value double suited rundowns.
Of course they have often 40% on the flop but they also end up to be very often at this 40% and sometimes they are just crushed. The domination danger in this game is significantly higher than in 4c.
Postflop
Already indirectly talked about flushdraws. Given made hands: most of the time middle set in this game especially in 6 max is just like a bottom set in 4 card. One just runs too often to Top set and to big draws. So for 5c starters I would just downgrade every hand about 1 level in comparison to 4c. And in 6c I would continue using the same concept and view every hand 1 level weaker in 5c and two levels weaker than in 4c.
Needless to mention that players tendencies (preflop and postflop) and board texture etc. sometimes makes hands even weaker or stronger. But for starters it is a really helpful guideline.

One question for Phil:
on QJ5 monotone we have 6% more non nut flushes and 2 % more nut flushes than in 4 card PLO while at 90% preflop range we have the same amount of nut flush blockers (4%). We have also 2% more sets and 1% more Top2. What do you think what are the implications?

Was very good and I don't even play holdem.

Whatever analysis you do, I hope to see some Pokerjuice analysis.

Hi,
@18:15 Table 1 you say his call with TT88 on 76549ccc on the river is good. I wonder what your calling range on the turn is. To me it seems you have lots of flushes even if he blocks Tc, he also blocks your straights with 88.

Hi and thank you for your effort.
At 00:09 You in small blind call a 3 bet with QJT8 and raise his cbet on T43rb.
1) What is our calling range when we raise this hand? And do you have a raise folding range that you don't raise pot?
2) Would be nice to see a vid about how his cbetting range should be to make us indifferent betw. calling/jamming/folding one pair hands.

Would like to see something like this with a PLO hand. Ofc there are no GTO solvers but at least teaching how to tackle them with PokerJuice.

Easy raise on the flop. When we miss turn our equity drops drastically. We don't need much fold equity to make the shove plus ev.
If he cbets around 50% on the flop, easy fold river.

The first thing one can and should do for poker is: play where you pay the least rake (or have the highest rakeback).

This is because he has too often the nuts and if he bets bigger one has to fold 100% of the time.

PLO: How to construct ranges on the same board vs different opponent types.

I guess we should not have a raising or donking range on TT9s.
When we raise, we rarely get it in good. We have so few AT and T9 because of our 3 betting/calling squeeze range from SB. And if we call with our good/medium draws than we should protect it with calling our entire range.
Very difficult spot would like to read more comments about this.

BTW: As already someone said, great Video (as always). TYVM

@Leo
When you start a thread, than pls participate.

Unless he did misclick, he shouldn't have JJ here ever. I put him on hands like [Kc-Qc]Jh9c8h, [KK-55]44cc, AcA87c...
I think bare JJ this deep wants a bet-3bet line.

Thank you Zach for your efforts.
Even if you made some mistakes, you did over compensated those with your responses here in the forum.
If you are continuing this as a series than I would like to see how a GTO strategy would roughly look like for cbetting and defending vs cbets and making some analysis about how to change the strategy (which hands to put in which range) based on villain defending too often (a-calls too often b-raises too often) or defending not enough.
It might be also cool to use another approach and some how go from river backwards:
How often villain has to defend => which hands he should call with, than analyzing how his turn calling range should look like etc...

Congratulations, wish you and Farrah all the best.

Would be cool if someone would take on this in a video using PJ or whatever.