Eagle

Min 02:00
SRP, BB vs Button, KQ3s
You xRaised flop and barreled a turn blank.

Are you following up on a blank river, like a 7 of clubs, with a third barrel?

Idea being, you're unblocking hearts, blocking KJ KT which might be feeling heroic, and you're expecting the nut flushdraws to fold to the third barrel; not much better bluffing combos can be there. Also hoping that a lot of weaker Kx will fold to the third barrel.

Liked the format!

I loved the summary at the end!

That was a GT Optimal amount of coffee for a recording IMO.

WD 40 could take care of the chair

Min 27
Timebanking on purpose by player 4 was clearly a plot devised to throw you off of your timing reads which you mentioned a bit earlier :D

And damn, how polished your game is!

Excellent video, as usual!

Interesting thoughts (about adding amateurs and then hearing pro thoughts), although that sounds like any live gameplay pro video. :D

I think they were introed in the first video in the series; I might be wrong, though.

I wish I could play like you! :D

I liked the idea as well as the execution, and it was fun to watch.

My favourite moment was

Cosmos - "This looks like quite a complex strategy from Dekkers, then. He is mixing in limps with large raises..."

Marle - "Interesting. So, 4x from the Small blind. He is superpolarized."

Dekkers - "Em... So, that was a misclick"

It sounds like a joke from Peter to me.
Not something to take too seriously.

Nice video; I liked both the content and the atmosphere!

Nice!
And teach me how to run like that... :D

What a cool idea for a video!

Quick question about PIO, as that's not familiar to me (I use CREV), how long (timewise) do your sims, whenever you pause to do one, actually take?

Sounds like you paid a currency conversions spread.

"Another site" might be taking a % of any money uploaded via Moneybookers, as well, although it is mostly not the case. But some do.

Skrill itself will not take $$$ from you for uploading per se (apart from the usual 1€ fee for sending cash to non-merchants), but it will charge you quite a fee if the currencies differ; each exchange will be about 2.5% or so, depending on your VIP status.

Thanks for the discussion and for sharing your thoughts, guys.
I will be taking them into account while devising my ranges.

Hey, Zach,

Yeah, I agree on the distinction between QQ and 66. But the whole point was, betting "for protection " is good (or rather, can be good, it'll depend on a ton of other things ofc) even when the hands with considerable equity are calling us instead of folding. Of course, we still mostly prefer that they fold.
QQ isn't that much of a part of that story.
OTOH, flushdraws on any board where we hold a pair and charge him to draw for instance would be.

Min 24, the whole concept on not cbetting for protection when a lot of the hands you want to protect against will call, and doing it when they'll fold.

If we eliminate raises from the picture (although we cannot do that, but for the sake of the concept), is that not conceptually flawed? It misses one part of the picture - expectation. Expectation with those particular hands that are still calling us. We influence it when we bet, even if he calls and does not fold (which we would prefer).

Say we have a 3bet pot in hold em, we called in position. He has AK. He checks to us on the flop.
If we bet for value/protection with 66 on a 532 board, he will call. So his high equity hand did not fold to our protection bet.
But, on the other hand, there is another big part of that story - his expectation with that hand still went down due to us betting as compared to us checking back.
And our bet was, in that regard, still the right play.

IOW, he simply - did not draw for free.

Right; if I got you correctly, it is mostly a case of the cbetting range, ie what's in the range that puts us to the decision.
If we assume a mostly merged 3betting range,
and then a polarized cbetting range on the flop,
then TT works better as a call. Naturally, that's often the case with bluffcatchers vs a polarized range.

Are there any hands in your range that you'd still be raising on 762 with a flushdraw as a default? It's kind of a lowish board for our range.

Same question for 982 with a flushdraw, iow a board that hits us better.

That's the type of stuff I was looking for. Especially the last sentence, that type of information is forming mental cues that are spot specific (and needed). Thank you for taking the time for it!

By now you're a bit of a drag.... Let Phil do more poker and less forum trivialities, please.

Hey,
We're still not getting one another... This is still broad, general ideas, general statements. A statement like "given our assumptions the play does not work" is not summing it up in concrete terms.

I was thinking of something more in lines of summing up the exact ranges/hands for the particular spot we had, not leave it under "optimistic assumptions" type of expressions.

That is the general idea of the video, yes, and it is what prompted me to ask more.

However, what I am wondering about is, how would you sum up your findings in a couple of sentences for that specific spot. What would be your mental note after solving it.

How would you quickly (so in a couple of sentences) sum up the following - define how the pivot point of the hand, the flop, in the 2nd hand example dictates your river play.

I am curious about that since you mentioned two ways which are "common" (eg "he will have a showdownable hand always, he'll expect you to never bluff", etc.), and said they're not cutting it.

He certainly is not a tighter

@18:00. You got, TT in a 3bet pot, you called a 9% 3bettor, he is in the SB. You're OTB. Flop came 762 with a flushdraw. You mentioned how you're raising flop for protection when he cbets.
What is your calling range in that spot?
Is it 7x and 6x, iow hands that are too weak to raise and get it in (even though they need even more protection)?

Well Galfond does often describe what kind of plays happen in PLO on the boards from the vid. :D

I input the Kd in crev instead of Ks on the flop so I got the ranges a bit skewed, as we don't have as much flushdraws on the turn.
Frequencies are roughly there, 2% difference; I am most interested in do we have a raising range OTT when villain follows up on his xR, and why.

Here's the HH in a readable format

I figured out an approximate range. I would probably fold 22 or 32 and a bit more stuff like that even though they've backdoored a gutter, but that isn't a big deal.
Snapshot



Composition




I don't know whether we want to have a raising range there and what the reasons would be.