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red wood

2 points

-tough to make an exact read because you don't have a cold 4bet stat but we can still generalize
-in my experience this is KK/AA almost always here. with your K blockers it's most likely AA
-can't see him cold 4betting AQ/AQs nor QQ (depends on table dynamic). If this is QQ, i think the small cbet flop then check back turn line is the least most likely line he would take with it
-i dont expect you to be able to fold KK, AQs, JJ in this spot which makes him shoving AK (or any other random hand/bluff) on the river a suicide bluff
-your range is almost exclusively QQ (small amounts of JJ, and small amounts of KK because of possible 5bets)
-The turn check is likely for pot control, safety move against QQ. once you check again on the river I think he feels safe enough to fire AA for value
-3 streets of value is optimistic for AA here. but two streets with an overshove seems a little more reasonable
- i fold here and take the same the line you do
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April 4, 2015 | 4:58 p.m.

thank you for the responses guys!

i was actually the villain in this hand holding 8c7c. the opponent used his full 60 second time back and clicked call. my thought process for making this move was a lot of the reasons you are saying why we should bet/ fold or check back this river card. i think he made a mistake betting river and i tried to capitalize off that mistake

im wondering his most likely reason for eventually calling. was it that he has the nut straight and that type of hand is really hard to fold, or was it that the turn donk didn't make sense for my whole scheme? obviously it's impossible to understand his exact thought process during the hand, but i was looking for responses that argued calling to get an idea of what it could be. i think i have the nut bluffing hand on the river here, whether this is a good spot to make a move is up for debate

March 31, 2015 | 5:24 p.m.

villain is a reg, only have 200 hands on him but he's playing 15/10/4

HERO is CO with AdTc ($450)
VILLAIN is BB ($370)

HERO raises to $6, VILLAIN calls $6
pot=$12

flop: JcQd9c
VILLAIN checks, HERO bets $8, VILLAIN calls $8
pot= $28

turn: Ks
VILLAIN bets $17.50, HERO raises to $43.75, VILLAIN calls $43.75
pot=$115.50

river: Js
VILLAIN checks, HERO bets $80.00, VILLAIN raises $312.25 and is all in. HERO ???

March 30, 2015 | 5:22 p.m.

Hand History | red wood posted in NLHE: 50NL: Gross river spot with JJ
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $54.42
SB: $42.19
BB: $35.26
UTG: $68.14
MP: $50.75 (Hero)
CO: $30.88
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is MP with J J
UTG raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 4 folds
Flop ($3.75) 4 Q 4
UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn ($3.75) 4 Q 4 J
UTG bets $2.64, Hero calls $2.64
River ($9.03) 4 Q 4 J K
UTG bets $7.24, Hero raises to $18.45, UTG raises to $64.00 and is all in, Hero calls $28.16 and is all in
tanked for 50 seconds or so and clicked call

March 23, 2015 | 11:01 p.m.

Post | red wood posted in NLHE: AcKc 3bet pot, spot on turn

Villain is average, 3bet percentage is a bit nittier then probably should be. maybe 10% bluffs in SB 3bet range, i dont know

100bb effective
HERO with AcKc (CO) raises to 1.5, SB 3bets to 5.5, HERO calls

Flop: Qd8cAd
SB bets 5.5, HERO calls

Turn: 6c
SB bets 10.5, HERO ?????

should we call, raise x amount, or shove? we have roughly 40 behind into a pot of 22.50 plus villains bet of 10.50

March 21, 2015 | 7:12 p.m.

Post | red wood posted in NLHE: 44 on safe turn

are we checking back or betting for protection on this turn card? i mean any river card above 7 is going to give us a little trouble, but we also might be valuecutting ourselves against his weak 7x.

SB raises to $3, we call BB with 44

flop is 272r, SB bets $3,75, BB calls

turn is a 5, SB checks, BB??

March 16, 2015 | 11:04 p.m.

Post | red wood posted in NLHE: ATo on a KQ5r flop

what's the best line for ATo on a KQ5r flop? for example, we raise UTG and are called by the BTN. flop is KQ5r. lets assume villain is a solid reg

if we cbet, what do we do on non-jack turns?
if we cbet, do we also cbet if the BB comes along (multiway pot)?
is check/folding this flop better than check/calling?

thanks!

March 14, 2015 | 5:35 p.m.

Hand History | red wood posted in NLHE: Thin value bet gets raised on the river
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $56.38 (Hero)
SB: $71.02
BB: $150.77
UTG: $120.09
MP: $54.52
CO: $52.30
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is BN with A A
UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.55, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.05
Flop ($9.85) 5 5 Q
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.15, UTG calls $5.15
Turn ($20.15) 5 5 Q 8
UTG checks, Hero checks
i didnt bet turn because no weaker should be calling. I block AQ which would be the most likely calling hand. id bet here with KK. thoughts?
River ($20.15) 5 5 Q 8 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $10.45, UTG raises to $110.39 and is all in, Hero folds
i think river is close between a checkback and thin value bet. i was hope to get calls from QJ+, 99+ trying to bluff catch. once raised, are we ever ahead? thoughts?

thanks
Final Pot UTG wins $39.20
Rake is $1.85

March 7, 2015 | 6:12 a.m.

Hand History | red wood posted in NLHE: should we be betting turn here?
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $43.08 (Hero)
SB: $143.78
BB: $53.11
UTG: $52.00
MP: $98.37
CO: $84.27
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is BN with Q A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $4.00, BB folds, Hero calls $3.00
Flop ($8.50) Q T 7
SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50
Turn ($17.50) Q T 7 4
SB checks, Hero bets $8.35, SB raises to $81.00, Hero folds
should we be betting turn here? if we are, is it for value/protection? and i think we can fold here holding the As. This line is almost always KK+

thoughts?

March 7, 2015 | 6:08 a.m.

Hey guys. two spots that I run into quite frequently and Im torn between the lines i can take. what line is potentially more +EV?

first spot. We have AQo in the SB. BTN opens and we 3bet pot. BTN calls. the flop comes 399r. are we continuing, x/calling or x/folding? if we are c-betting, what do we do on the different turn cards?

second spot. We have AQo on the BTN. HJ raises, we flat and BB comes along. the flop is KJ4r and it checks around to us. are we betting or checking?

ill hold off on my thoughts at first to see unbiased opinions. im interested to hear the thought processes! thanks :)

March 4, 2015 | 7:12 p.m.

Haven't played against this villain much but have watched him in a couple hands and he seems pretty decent. his profit stats are also high so im assuming is a regular
UTG
HJ
HERO: $135
VILLAIN $110
SB
BB

HERO is dealt Kc Qd
fold,fold, hero opens to $1.25, Villain calls $1.25, fold, fold
pot ~$4.00

Flop
6h Th 6d

Hero bets $3, Villain calls $3
pot ~$10

Turn
Js

Hero bets $7.50, Villain calls $7.50
pot ~$25

River
9d

Hero bets $18, Villain raises all in, Hero folds

thoughts on ALL streets appreciated please

Feb. 28, 2015 | 5:36 p.m.

Post | red wood posted in NLHE: *100NL KK on a 555 board

V1 (UTG) = $65
HERO (CO) = $130
V2 (BTN) = 115

HERO DEALT KhKd
V1 raises to $3, HERO 3bets to $9.5, V2 calls $9.5, V1 calls $9.5

pot (~$30)

flop = 5d5c5h

V1 checks, HERO ???

opinions on flop action. pros/cons of betting vs check raising vs check calling

and how does our action change if V1 is not a huge short stack

thanks!

Feb. 23, 2015 | 8:02 p.m.

i think a river bet here has more fold equity than a turn bet.
the flop float OTOH...

Feb. 20, 2015 | 9:34 p.m.

@UpUpAndAway

what's the lightest you call here given original raiser dropped out?

Feb. 20, 2015 | 9:30 p.m.

Comment | red wood commented on River Bluff Catch?

that king is a trap card and i wouldn't bet it ever, as a bluff or for value. his value range is loaded and can x/r raise river with sets/straights after you checked turn. as played id fold

Feb. 19, 2015 | 3:18 p.m.

Feb. 18, 2015 | 7:17 p.m.

It should be the other way around.. The ammount of bluffs you got doesn't decide how many value bets you want to bet. giving up is always ev0 if we got zero sdv. If we start overbluffing we will have a ev- bet unless villain is over folding. So yeah in a vacuum you could make some money but in the long run you will just be burning money for no reason (Unless villain is terrible to begin with and never adjust)

why can't we decide how many value hands we can bet based on amount of bluff combos we get to a spot with? i believe both value and bluffs work together synonymously in a balanced strategy

Feb. 18, 2015 | 7:15 p.m.

i check behind river here too. as played b/f.

i dont think i have a bluff raising range if im the villain in this hand. I mean all of my x/r bluffing range raises on a street before river

Feb. 18, 2015 | 7:10 p.m.

. I think I like betting a bit more on this texture as I want to protect my OP range on some runout that I want to bet flop with<

OP can you elaborate on this? flop is the most interesting imo

Feb. 18, 2015 | 6:55 p.m.

Comment | red wood commented on AQo facing 3 bet 15bb

my first instinct was fold as well. what's your thoughts on call/re-evaluate flop? are we too short stacked?

Feb. 18, 2015 | 6:44 p.m.

Post | red wood posted in MTT: AQo facing 3 bet 15bb

* HOLE CARDS *
Dealt to HERO [Qc Ad]
cflvr: folds
Takiowns: folds
stormy8010: folds
Bizzy06bone: folds
Eddiespeed: folds
HERO: raises 615 to 1215
eXtAnD: folds
SB_VILLAIN-: raises 2385 to 3600
lokomotiv2: folds
HERO: ???

100 to go before bubble. small blind is the 3bettor. my read on him: he cold 4 bet shoved 66 35bb (top 50 stack) against an UTG open and MP 3bet earlier on.

unsure on this spot. i could see an argument for all 3 options

PS. any idea why i cant post hand histories? ive tried twice and both times i get a 404 page not found, thanks

Feb. 18, 2015 | 2:08 a.m.

whole table is 25-30bb chip stacks. one guy keeps open shoving every hand. what's the lightest you'd call his open shove with? and from each position?

Feb. 15, 2015 | 1:05 a.m.

thanks for the responses guys. so is the answer then c) doesn't matter. a random mix of 10 combos will do? and therefore we should go the next step and choose the ones that have the better blockers?

im curious if there is any argument to turn the top of the weak made hand range into a bluff versus the bottom of that range.

to rephrase it: ignoring action (because i don't think it matters), we get to a spot where we want to turn a one pair hand into a bluff. our one pair hand range is JT,QJ,KJ and AJ (for simplicity all of these combos are just one combo and all of these combos lose at showdown). we calculate the optimal number of bluffs we should have in our range and it is 2 combos. If we dont take into consideration blockers..should we use the bottom 2 combos (JT and QJ) or the top 2 combos (KJ and AJ) or it doesnt matter (random mix of 2 of the 4 will do)?

i hope im being clear in my question, i understand how this can not make sense. I have a thought/idea in my mind that im trying to express and disprove. thanks!

Feb. 11, 2015 | 9:51 p.m.

When constructing an optimal bluffing range from weak made hands that you now want to turn into a bluff, is it best to use combos in the top of that range or bottom of that range (if you're not taking into consideration blockers and what not)?

I'll continue with a simple example...

We have QJ on a 3TJ45 where a backdoor flush was completed by the river. we want to turn QJ into a bluff and have calculated that we need to be bluffing at a 50% frequency. for the sake of discussion lets say we need 10 bluff combos. is it best to use..

a)10 combos from the bottom of our weak made hand range in this spot (J8, J9)
b)10 combos from the top of our weak made hand range (AJ, KJ)
c) doesn't matter. a random mix of 10 combos will do

thanks

Feb. 10, 2015 | 8:50 p.m.

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