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3b pott oop vs lag mTw-DaviN checkraiseing a double gutter 315bb eff

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3b pott oop vs lag mTw-DaviN checkraiseing a double gutter 315bb eff

BN: n0d1ceb4by: $11939.80
SB: ISILDRooN: $10311.62
BB: mTw-DaviN: $6294.50
Preflop ($30.00) (3 Players)
ISILDRooN was dealt 7 6 4 3
n0d1ceb4by folds, ISILDRooN raises to $50, mTw-DaviN raises to $172, ISILDRooN calls $132
Flop ($384.00) 9 A 5 (2 Players)
ISILDRooN checks, mTw-DaviN bets $280, ISILDRooN raises to $800, mTw-DaviN calls $520
Turn ($1984.00) 8 (2 Players)
ISILDRooN bets $1440, mTw-DaviN calls $1440
River ($4864.00) T (2 Players)
Ok, had this kind of interesting hand a while ago vs superaggro player mTw-DaviN and i felt like i make a interesting overall play, i just want to discuss about our river options.

Flop, i felt like checkcalling is kind of * bleak* here, he will just barrol at ton of turn were we haft to fold. And with this dry board where we have a pretty hidden double gutter to the nuts i felt that he is kind of forced to slowplay his AAxx A9xx 99xx 55xx to a c/r. Since we are calling a 3b oop 315bb eff our range do contain a bunch of AAxx thats not gona play well enough to a 4b, at least my range do that. So i felt like c/r is the best options for those reasons.

+/-

+ Good for balance
+ Give us the initiative

- He do have a rly low fold to checkraise in 3b potts so we are gona haft to barrol a ton of turns here


Turn; We make the nuts on a pretty crazy card and i dont know if i wanna bet or checkraise for protection since we are going to have like -180bb left for a river. But i felt like betting is better since he will come over the top with like Axxx with fd + gutter and stuff like that that maaaaybe are betfolding vs a c/r.


River; Ok, do we check here to induce a bluff? Cant rly see how could get called by worse and maaaaybe he jams a ATxx for value here when we check to get a herocall by A9xx A8xx A5xx but its unlikley imo. Do we checkcall or jam for value?

Would be nice to now what u think about my overall play here and what we should do on the river //Leo

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monk over 12 years, 2 months ago
I like the c/r flop, bet turn line. I think you lose value vs AT or A9. Id guess his calling range is a lot wider than his shoving range and I don't see him having that many bluffs. So I'd just shove the river.
nmlfree 12 years, 2 months ago
i prefer a river check. It's really hard for us to have air unless it's exactly the 87xx ( which we don't barrel that often). In low/mid stakes against opponents with poor reading skills i agree that betting is better, but dawin is not much of a hero caller and i can hardly see how we can extract more value as it's hard to rep air. Unfortunately, he doesn't bluff that much either, so you won't make much more money no matter what line you choose, but i still feel check is slightly superior for our range and the occasional bluff.
JasonCrest 12 years, 2 months ago
interesting hand.
flop is standard. turn bet looks good, maybe cr or even c/c sometimes.
river I am kinda lost. I dont see him calling with worse all that often, yet when we check and he jams I think its becoming really close to a cf. i wish we had cr flop bigger, then it becomes a lot easier, but thats results oriented.
Francisco Rocha 12 years, 2 months ago
I think is very hard to get value from worst hands, however he just can't represent JQxx, and anyway his hands seems to have a lot of showdown value, so he's checking back a lot., so he's never bluffing the river. He surely could valuebet worst hands like slowplayed AA, but in order to know if is better to bet or check we need to think about how often he_hero_calls vs he_bluffs_repping_nothing+valuebet_thin_against_a_polarized_range. I really think the answer to this question is very intuitive so imo betting a big bet hoping for a hero is the very best play.
Tom M 12 years, 2 months ago
Is putting out a tiny, fos looking blocker type bet with the intention of calling a raise an option? Just wondering if he's more inclined to bluff a small blocker looking bet vs. a check.

I like flop c/r for reasons stated. Hand is fairly well disguised and villain will flat with AAxx a lot since it's so dry.
Leo Nordin 12 years, 2 months ago
Rly dont think im well balanced enough to do that, but i do like the idea of betting small since it might just look that we are *stopp* betting with A9xx and he will pay off with a ATxx.

The more i think about it the more i like it, betting like 1200$ to call a jam on the river def would work since its going to be hard for us to have a flat out bluff here. We can repp that we have some weak SDV that just wanna get to a showdown and dont feel comfy enough to c/c.

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