NL100 3bet pot OOP AQo on 89Tr flop

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NL100 3bet pot OOP AQo on 89Tr flop

BB: $134.45
UTG: $97.15
HJ: $108.85
CO: $191.35
BN: $100
SB: $127.60 (Hero)
CO 25/22 reg 69%fold 3bet
Btn 20/16 reg, 67% (3), he X/R 2 pairs....fold CB 56%(9) only 250 hands
Preflop ($1.50) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A Q
UTG calls $1, HJ folds, CO raises to $4, BN calls $4, Hero raises to $14.50, BB folds, UTG folds, CO folds, BN calls $11
i missread stats because i thought they were correct for Btn but in fact there are not good since i have too few hands
i squeez for value, a little bigger than usual because i m 190 deep vs CO
Flop ($36.00) T 8 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $15
flop is a bad play for my range, lets say i squeez a 9% depolarized range (does not seems crazy) i will have a lot of overcards and only few overpairs , only 1 set...
he can has more sets, less overcards and less overcards, so his range is stornger
i dont know how he plays it seems easy to raise flop or flaot because my 3bet ranges does not hit this baord
seems a X/F, what do you think?
thanks

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thedoors 12 years, 1 month ago
Thanks few questions on this spot
if we allways check
What is your x/c range
what is your x/r range (value/bluff )
Thanks for your help have a nice d'y
James Hudson 12 years, 1 month ago
Not sure of my exact ranges in this spot off the top of my head but I'd want some nutted hands as well as medium strength bluff catchers in my check calling range and then some strong hands and perhaps some hands like yours in my check raising range. Though I'm not sure we NEED a check raising range here.
thedoors 12 years, 1 month ago
thanks james, dont you want to play fast your nut on a drawy baord like this?
if so since we said we will check our whole range we need to have a X/R range, dont we?
thanks again for all your interesting answers on this forum
James Hudson 12 years, 1 month ago
I don't think the board is THAT wet. We could chose to check call everything here and therefore our range is pretty well protected on a number of different turn cards.
maco 12 years, 1 month ago
I think that this flop in 3bet pot it's good for us because villain is gonna play pretty straight forward imo,I like to x/f w AQ/AK and all othere bluffs that missed and have no equity,but I like to bet it with JJ+ because we'll get raised only if villain has sets/two pair or straights,he is gonna call like always with Jx/77 and he will fold underpairs.
friedpie 12 years, 1 month ago
So if the flop is good for us why do you c/f AQ and AK and not just bet once if he is playing straight forward?
I think that flop will hit their range alot or atleast a draw and they'll be betting more often than they will be checking behind vs a check from us.
friedpie 12 years, 1 month ago
Also what is our plan when we check call flop?
- Folding vs turn barrels unimproved
- Hoping for a free showdown with A high (how likely will that happen)?
WM2K 12 years, 1 month ago
Add me to the checking party. Its basically a spot where villains range hits it too hard and we don t have enough strong hands to be able to split up our ranges. I m not even excited to bet/3 bet AA here and thats a bad sign.

brodyz 12 years, 1 month ago
do we mainly not want to check our whole range here because we never want to cbet bluff? So the same would aply if we open raise UTG and get flatted by btn and the flop is 789r we might want to check our entire range there aswell?
Obviously the board is better for villains range so we dont want to isolate ourself vs his valuerange by betting
Egor Ovchinnikov 12 years, 1 month ago
AQo OOP vs 2 Opponents...May be you should be play pot control here...That was Nity play,but another situation you come yourself in difficult decision...My opinion here very controversial...but other was said above. =)
WM2K 12 years, 1 month ago
Oh I see what your saying. No squeezing here is fine. Between taking the dead $$ preflop and having a spr thats sweet for TP OTF AQo is an ideal hand to squeeze.
mike 12 years, 1 month ago
i don't XC in these this spots as i have no idea how to how to play turns and rivers OOP on this board

i feel like i am XFing unless opponent has very high fold to CB stat

i am not 100% of the range i expect to see when BUT flats our large 3B - maybe something like this - at least one combo of AA and a few less combos of 88-TT/AQ which i think 4B jam some of the time and i doubt AK/JJ are flatting in this spot

Board: 9h8sTc
Equity Win Tie
BU 50.41% 41.67% 8.74% { AdAh, TdTs, ThTs, TdTc, ThTc, TsTc, 9d9s, 9h9s, 9d9c, 9h9c, 9s9c, 8d8s, 8h8s, 8d8c, 8h8c, 8s8c, AQs-ATs, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, AJo, KQo, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQs, AhQc, AsQh, AsQc, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs }
SB 49.59% 40.84% 8.74% { AhQc }


so our EQ seems strong enough to CB but i doubt we get many folds and i still have no idea how to play turns

if BUT is flatting really wide our equity gets worse but maybe we get enough fold on the flop?

Board: 9h8sTc
Equity Win Tie
BU 56.44% 51.92% 4.52% { 77-22, AdAs, TdTs, ThTs, TdTc, ThTc, TsTc, 9d9s, 9h9s, 9d9c, 9h9c, 9s9c, 8d8s, 8h8s, 8d8c, 8h8c, 8s8c, AQs-A9s, KTs+, QJs, JTs, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, AJo, KQo, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQs, AhQc, AsQh, AsQc, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs }
SB 43.56% 39.04% 4.52% { AhQc }

and even with this wide range i doubt he is folding enough combos on the flop




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