CO JJ c3b, ch/c line 883 4 4

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CO JJ c3b, ch/c line 883 4 4

SB: $50
BB: $47.41
UTG: $50.26
HJ: $55.17
CO: $63.45 (Hero)
BN: $68.64
Villain is somewhat passive, unorthodox
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt J J
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $1.31, BN raises to $2.12, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $0.81
villain minraises IP, general population reads is that this min 3bet is sometimes all pairs, Kxx Qxx or AA/KK that wants action specifically.
Flop ($4.99) 8 8 3 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $2.49, Hero calls $2.49
Turn ($9.97) 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $4.98, Hero calls $4.98
River ($19.93) 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $9.96, Hero folds
Final Pot
BN wins $18.94

Postflop i just feel like a fish check/calling down. I don't see villains betting the river that often because they are 'scared of the 8' 

The 1/2p betting is usually a value bet size

am i being too nitty here?

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Getready2rokk 10 years, 11 months ago

Hard to say, if hes complete random he could have some weird hands.

You get 3:1 on rvr, so villain needs to be betting like this with worse than JJ 25% of the time.
QQ+ are 18 combos, so we need to find 6 combos, we could include TT in his value range, so then we need 3 total bluffs. If your read is that hes passive, i dont mind the fold, if you think hes quite random so belive he can have some total air combos then call. Its probably pretty close when we get 3:1

ItsToothPasteISwear 10 years, 11 months ago

When its close and you arent sure because your opponent is a goofy fish, I call just for the read. Guys got direct position on you too, so it will be good to know something about what his min 3 bet means, since with fish it can vary so much

Daz 10 years, 11 months ago

In this spot i'm forgetting about my odds on the call. I do have a tendency to want to make hero folds when i've been shown better hands for awhile. If the roles were reversed and i had QQ+ i'm sure i would of won more off villain with better sizing pre- and postflop so it won't be atrotious to call and see a higher overpair here. 

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