c/c 3 streets BvB
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c/c 3 streets BvB
HJ: omnomonoomn: $291.70
CO: victorvaughn: $245.05
BN: ninodebby: $198.50
SB: trust.me: $200
BB: saintvicious: $236.35
CO: victorvaughn: $245.05
BN: ninodebby: $198.50
SB: trust.me: $200
BB: saintvicious: $236.35
Villain 21/17/fold bvb 57/bet v missed flop cb 70/turn cb 50/wwsf 46/river agg 28 - 2,2k hands
Is this a spot where we want to fall back on game theory? Im unsure of villains frequency here so we should defend around 60% of our range to make us unexploitable?
Just trying to get my head around some gto stuff and am looking to see if im thinking about it correctly.
Is this a spot where we want to fall back on game theory? Im unsure of villains frequency here so we should defend around 60% of our range to make us unexploitable?
Just trying to get my head around some gto stuff and am looking to see if im thinking about it correctly.
Preflop
($3.00)
(5 Players)
trust.me was dealt
T
7
omnomonoomn folds, victorvaughn folds, ninodebby folds, trust.me raises to $5, saintvicious calls $4
omnomonoomn folds, victorvaughn folds, ninodebby folds, trust.me raises to $5, saintvicious calls $4
Flop
($12.00)
8
9
T
(2 Players)
trust.me checks,
saintvicious bets $8,
trust.me calls $8
i like having this hand in my c/c range because this is a flop i will be c/folding quite often so its nice to protect my folding range.
Turn
($28.00)
3
(2 Players)
trust.me checks,
saintvicious bets $18,
trust.me calls $18
ez call
River
($64.00)
2
(2 Players)
trust.me checks,
saintvicious bets $44
call with a gto range?
Also what can we assume about villains range if he shows down KQo? He has alot of Tx hands in his range that can barrel here so maybe hes unbalaced in this spot?
Also what can we assume about villains range if he shows down KQo? He has alot of Tx hands in his range that can barrel here so maybe hes unbalaced in this spot?
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you range is capped flop so if hes good he has a easy 3 barrel bluff (so find it good with QKo)
if you dont have read you have to call with GTO frequency, and that wil certainly put you to call this hand but
i would X/R somewhere flop or turn, since we have much equity and dont fear a 3bet + it balances our range
i dont have a X/C range oop on this baby drawy board, only a X/R range (so with my nut too)
And yeh KQ seems like a fine hand to 3barrel with but will that make him unbalanced towards bluffs in this spot?
Dont know about balance if he has kqo
Fwiw at least vs the donks I play against they have it more often then not when they 3 barrel. They are unbalanced definitely as it perhaps feels a bit ambitious to bluff here. I d say if this is really the very top of your range then perhaps you need to reconsider your ranges. You may still have to call some split amount of the time though to remain "unexploitable" depending how much that matters here.
So, the question comes down if we WANT to have a checking-calling-range at all or if we only want to bet or x/r, x/f - and I´d say, yes, I definitely want to have a x/c-range, because "perceptive players and even aggro fish" will just use their position and raise the crap out of my cbets. ;)
Just curious, but why do you particularly have to have a c/c range?
c/c AA here is pretty sexy imo and its a play that I make in similar spots at a fairly high frequency. Basically AA is one of the most invulnerable single pair hands we have here. No overcards can fall! Secondly going for 3 streets of value even bvb is going to be mega thin on most runouts. Thirdly if we do bet and face a raise villain can still raise with a high frequency of bluffs but he can have so many value hands that AA is still in a tough spot.
In the end though we are not going to be able to defend our sb range here enough. Thats just a fact you need to learn to deal with. The board favors villains range too much and lots of villains don t defend their bb enough so my range at least is quite air heavy even on the boards that favor me. I just raise pre, accept that I ve already won vs players who fold 55%+ in the bb and then try to remember to not give back all my preflop profits by spewing postlfop with too many bad c bets etc.
i am not really sure from a GTO perspective how how to split my range into XC, XR, CB, XF and all the subsequent turn/river lines this brings
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