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Need advice on solving a mental hand history problem.(Mistake-tilt/Low-confidence)

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Need advice on solving a mental hand history problem.(Mistake-tilt/Low-confidence)

Hello there fellow members!

Recently I have been working on eliminating my C-game mistakes so my range will tighten up and new mental space can be freed. Most off my problems I can understand and solve myself but this one has really been bothering me since I started playing poker.

Some background in case this will help. I have been playing proffesionally for over a year. I play live both PLO and NLHE at midstakes. I am an overall winner since I started playing. Keep track off all my results and ALOT off improvements have been made regarding my mental game. My focus right now is to make my current B-game to become my C-game by eliminating all my C-game leaks. I have also made very CLEAR goal list and WHY i want to achieve them and WHAT obstacles can come in between.

I would describe it as being mistake-tilt related but the problem is not the mistake itself which I can understand why it happens and also know that they are good for my overall game if I learn from them. No this problem is more related to the after-effects and that they affect my confidence or it affects my problem since it is allready quite low.

I have been using Jared Tendlers book on solving this issue by making the 5 point list on how to correct mental hand history.

  1. ''Describe the problem'':
    -I dwell on a mistake or what I think is a mistake, you could also says I just refuse or cannot forgive myself. Thoughts on how or why I did this again? Will it ever go away and I am failure who wont reach any sucess in poker. The hardest part is trying to rest, my mind cannot let it go and even if I am totally exhausted its impossible to fall asleep.

  2. ''Explain why it makes logical sence to think,feel or react that way'':
    -Low confidence is what goes to mind first, deep down I dont believe in my own ability to succeed. Every time a mistake is made I ask myself the question ''I am really good enough or have I just been lucky so far''?
    I can undertand that I am atleast a decent player based on my results and that I try to improve but deep down it's so hard to fully belive in myself. Logically that it is possible but my subconscious just refuses to accept myself and belive in me. One reason is that I have not reached any goals I set out for myself besides graduating from university but I am not that happy about it even. We could say that most goals I really wanted to reach have not been so far... Perhaps this had made me doubt in my own abilities.

  3. ''Figure out how logic in step 2 is flawed'':
    -Well I have been playing professionaly for over a year and that SHOULD definently count for something. Perhaps I just dont appriciate myself and prefer to critize much more then say positive and good things. I usually ''beat my self more the focus on beating other players''...

  4. Come up with a correction to the flawed logic'': HERE IS WHERE I AM STUCK SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN
    -My dwelling makes me spend energy on the wrong things, so instead off going forward I go backward.
    You hate yourself because you make mistakes but in reality mistakes brings you closer to your ultimate goal ''Formula for success is to double your rate off failure''.
    Perhaps I am just VERY afraid off making mistakes beacause off after effects and associations. My selective memory remembers my mistakes MUCH better then when I made a really good play and was rewarded for it. Perhaps I am really scared off eventually failing and this is the last thing I want to do since I have abandon enough goals allready. Somewhere enough is enough and you have to stand your ground?

As it comes to my confidence I dont know how to boost it, I have been trying to say positive things to myself in the mirror every day and it has helped some. But when the shit hits the fan I am back at hating myself and feel really crappy...

Well guys if u reached all here impressive! Give me some feedback or advice on how u managed to solve this issue if u had it. I really think that belif in yourself is what makes or breaks if you gonna reach your true potential. Because if you dont belive in yourself who then will? I feel like this is my biggest leak at the moment and it makes me doubt my game, dont follow my gut or simply not enjoying life. Sorry for spelling wrong or anything written that does not make sence you are free to ask :)

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LuckyMer 9 years, 10 months ago

Very hard to read it through... I didn't yet.. maybe you will describe the issue in less words? Cause I am not sure if I (or any other member) will be able to give an advice even after reading. So there is no incentive to read, it's not like a funny story anyway.

Put your issue in 2-3 sentences, please! (Add this summary to the top of your post).

erdian 9 years, 10 months ago

you are totally right.... I just wrote everything to see it more clearly myself hoped I could find an answer by just looking at what I wrote. Simply put it like this: I dont belive in myself as a poker player which in turn creates doubt in my game and inbalance in my life.

Now it should be clearer :).

LuckyMer 9 years, 10 months ago

Ok, I have an answer to at least one problem you mentioned in your text - 'The hardest part is trying to rest, my mind cannot let it go and even if I am totally exhausted its impossible to fall asleep.'

I had similar issues, when I go to bed my mind started to thinking all over, imagining future etc... What helps me - I take ipad with headphones to my bed, put 1 headphone in my ear, lay my head on the pillow and put ipad on my bed so that I can see the action there. And I start a video from some of RIO pros. Sometimes I watch whole video, and then start another. But usually it takes 10-15 minutes to feel sleepy, after that I just closing the screen and continue to listen... and fell asleep.

Well, also you can sleep with some girl, ipad not needed then :)

The only way to obtain confidence is through winning pots. Fight for them.

StreetSpirit 9 years, 9 months ago

Sounds very familiar to what I've been going through. It is an endless work in progress, but I'll share some tips that have helped my mistake tilt and overall well-being.

Experimenting with mindfulness. Being in the moment reduces the number of mistakes (Because you are more focused and aware of your decisions), and helps the habit of dwelling in the mistakes (Because they are in the past and you are in the present). Further, mindfulness exercises will help to you calm your mind when you go to bed. I'd warmly recommend Tommy Angelo's Eightfold path to poker enlightenment, which is all about the correct mental approach towards tiltlessness and a overall happier/healthier life.

Going to the gym and eating healthy. Healthier body = Healthier mind. Period. You'll also sleep like a baby when you workout regularly. Then you just have to force yourself to stick to your new healthier habits. Your mind will always find excuses to not go to the gym and eat the shit foods.

Make a plan a stick to it. The rest is just noise.

erdian 9 years, 9 months ago

Tommy, do you mean that because I will always keep working on my mental game it will be some things that I am unhappy about or that bothers me?

Thank you for all the feedback guys :)

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