zorgar

Hes not drawing dead as you can see and you certainly must bet turn bigger.

Call turn. Your hand is massively underrepresented and he can literally have any hand with this line and so his "chance" of overbluffing is just incredibly high.

One thing that comes to mind is how someone structures his 3bet range in nlhe HU, where he uses a certain range for the first 20 minutes and then switches to annother range of the same size but with different hands that have overall very similar equity preflop.

Why 3,5bb open and why pot flop?

No, because more people folded unplayable hands before you and thus increased the chance of playable hands for the people behind them. Also board textures should look different (slightly). I dont know how much of a difference this makes, but you should open slightly tighter OTB 9-handed compared to 6-handed.

To give you an example for this:
Suppose a game with 3 players, you know bu/sb will not fold an ace and thus raise first in if they have one. Suppose the button folded to you and its your turn in the sb, you now know that the button did not have an ace, so there must be all 4 aces left in the deck and thus all Ax combos. You now also know that all non-Ax must be reduced because he folded a non Ax

Scenario 1: Relative Ax combo to all combos (50x49 - 46x45)/(50x49) = 15,51%
Scenario 2: Relative Ax combo to all combos (52x51 - 48x47)/(52x51) = 14,93%

If you were just 2 players you would not have this information, this effect is obviously cumulative the more players folded to you.

You may very well go crazy on this board with this hand, but bet flop small so you know your outs are alive because he has to call so wide.

If you use hands like this to bluffraise you are either extremely overbluffing or not continuing with better hands correctly.

Your AI equity is kind of irrelevant when you cant ever realize it.

You can cold 4bet pre here. But on this texture hero calls.

Only hand that can realistically beat you is 68 OTR and this must be heavily discounted by his betsizing imo. Pretty clear valuebet OTR imo, dont bet big though.

Well i was thinking that i must have a pretty clear range advantage OTR with the range i hastily made in my head for the river. Then i tried to figure out how many combos i could bluff and if this jj combo wasnt too high up my range. I also posted the results which i obviously didnt want to do here.

I also didnt think that this particular villain had a well enough constructed 3betting range to cover the board in general. As an afterthought i would probably check in the same spot the next time and take the free ev because i dont think villain is betting this river pretty much ever.

I mean thats 2 combos, i can realistically have 55-99 (16) 8d9d and 9dTd vs his sizing (even though i would probably call a little less).

Hand is wp. Could also check turn because your hand either has about 100% equity or none. I much prefer betting turn small though

Well the Invoker thinks the button is exremely polarized and overbluffing OTT. He thinks he doesnt have enough 8x to support his bluffing range and he thinks kqo is likely ahead of the bluffing range. Ive no idea if any of the assumptions are correct but thats probably what he was thinking.

Something is wrong with the betsize, i did not intend to bet so little at all. And you are right.

Maybe im off here, but i feel that JJ in general is so high up my range that it should try to get to showdown with a high frequency. When i bet fold this hand i also need to be cbetting very little on this board overall to avoid getting pushed off my range

Yeah i dont agree with my cbet tbh. I was thinking the exact same thing in the hand i should probaby cbehind a huge chunk of range on this flop.

WP bb sizing means you can call the 3bet pretty easily here, calling 33 vs utg is close though.

3bet flop. his jj/tt are discounted and you arent blocking the rest of his valuerange. You calling range will be fine with tt/jj

Villain is much more likely to have the nutflushdraw OTT and your entire range will want to protect the turn if he has the nutflushblocker (which imo is pretty likely). I dont like betting small at all here.

I get your idea but i dont think it applies to this turnbecause he has WAY more nutflushdraws OTT.

I will look into this spot further because i might be totally off here.

If you have these hands with a very high frequency in you turn range and are sure that the ah blocker is that bad for you then folding might be an option.

I understand what you are saying exploitatively, but from a minimum defense frequency standpoint this hand is an absolute MUST call vs half pot size. I dont know what else you are intending to call (probably ak wihtout hearts and flushdraws).

Yeah in the hand i noticed this too. Problem is that the hand i could protect my range with block his ak a lot. I really need to think this through.