whysoeasy
171 points
Like RaoulFlush said, you should have take your decision about turn and river in the same time after his, either fold or call 2 times. It's not a spot where you want to call turn for reevaluate river.
Personally I would snap fold. Villain call SBvsCO and call the CB oop. His range for take this line have lot of pp and T, I'm sure some reg with high fold a lot to CB would even not call AJs with BDFD. So turn when he c/r his range is really stong, no reason for him to raise worst so it's mostly T9 or set and he don't have lot of bluff in his range + people at low stakes usually don't bluff deep.
May 16, 2014 | 1:53 p.m.
Do you speak about unibet.com? If yes then it's not even close: Winamax huge rake, low rakeback. Unibet.com lower rake, more rakeback. In PLO it's gonna be a huge difference + I guess there are more tables running on unibet so you can table select a bit.
May 14, 2014 | 10:46 a.m.
More rakeback can't be bad when you are paying so much rake (6.5% with 3€ cap). When I was playing 30NL on winamax I payed around 12bb/100 of rake, I can't imagine what you are paying in PLO haha.
Now it really depends if you feel unibet is much harder/regish or not because if you make 2 times more rakeback but win less at the tables then it's def not worth the move (and win less at the table, even if you get 2 time more RB may give you more tilt/feel that you can't beat the game ...).
May 11, 2014 | 2:45 p.m.
hello all, does anyone know a free screen recorder that record skype audio also ?
April 30, 2014 | 1:29 p.m.
You can make 6bb/100 at 500NL, easy. http://i.imgur.com/xM63kzr.png
March 29, 2014 | 7:14 p.m.
From my experience people don't really raise bluff turn at micro and raising QJ or QQ seems pretty bad to me.
Your range look very strong, you 3bet SB vs HJ and 2 barrels a board that hit villain range a lot so not a super spot for him to bluff + I don't think lot of reg will expect anyone to fold (or try to make you fold) QQ+ vs turn raise after they 2 barrels so it makes it less likely he bluffs.
Also, this board really hit his range. He can have 99-QQ, and maybe AQs, KQs, AKs. Could be wider if HJ is a fish but then we add KQo, all the pairs that want to setmine but fold flop but 44, AQo but likely fold flop and after that it starts to be unlikely he has a wider range but if he has it will be some QJs, JTs, KJs and either he beats us (JT) or isn't raising.
So as played, I would fold (you have 17% vs "JJ,99,KQs,AhQh"). Would be a call only if you think he can push QQ,QJs but like I said, imo, it's already unlikely he has QJ PF so ...
As for the bet turn, I would second barrel if HJ is a fish because BB range should be wider and I don't fear to get bluff raised or raised for thin value.
If HJ was a reg I would c/fold with no regret since BB range will be a lot more concentrated on mid pp and big broadways that don't want to 4bet and is unlikely to have medium brodway like KJ, QJ, ...
March 27, 2014 | 7:50 a.m.
Few day ago at 50nl vs a vpip 70/pfr 2: "poker******t: why u always raise pre-flop ? go in 1/2 game"
I couldn't stop laughing.
March 21, 2014 | 2:16 p.m.
^^
March 21, 2014 | 2:07 p.m.
Q: Is A2s not a good hand to 3 bet?
It's a good hand to 3bet bluff, it means we want to 3bet it vs player who fold too much or close to too much (because of our blocker) vs 3bet. So vs a recreative player it's often not the best idea but again it depend and maybe vs this guy it's the good play.
As for the other streets. If you want to bluff turn, I think you should push to maximize your fold equity. That said, I wouldn't try to bluff a recreational player unless I'm sure he knows there is a bottom fold next to call haha.
March 18, 2014 | 3:28 p.m.
Seriously, nobody mention it so maybe it's tight (thought Imo it's really standard) but I directly fold Vs his raise. Villain seems tight, he called a BTN raise in SB and c/r a low drawy board his range is basically set or flushdraw. We need 28% to call vs this {88-77,44,AcQc,KcQc,AcJc,KcJc,QcJc,AcTc,KcTc,Ac9c,Ac8c,Ac7c} we have 23% (and we have to keep in mind that 28% is for Turn and river and in these situations, villain will most likely c/r flop barrel turn) (PS: I put a tonne of set to try to don't give to much "power" to the set but in fact it's almost the same if he only has like 3 FD combos).
As played turn, your are bluffing his worst hand.
March 18, 2014 | 3:02 p.m.
I think it really depends of your image, if he think you are not able to vb an A river, then you should fold and if he know you like to click fold, then you should call, but it need some kind of historic enter you too and need him to see and exploit the leak.
Overall, even from reg, I don't see much donk riverbluff when a flush hit but it happens sometime so I want to call some hands and basically I would just call all AA (OH REALLY) and all AsKx because I block all the nuts flush, it's unlikely he has another flush or full. That's where I don't agree with you Freakymo, I don't think we are at the tom of our range. I would say top in order = AA, AKss, AsKx, others AK.
March 17, 2014 | 3:27 p.m.
Agree that the c/r being bad and that he you decide to put all the money in you should c/c turn and c/c river (if no club hit) so you keep his bluff and that you don't need protection (he will almost never have a Acx here since it's really more likely he will use Axs than Axo as a 4bet bluff.
That said, I think it's a clear fold turn:
VSAdAh, AdAc, AhAc, KhKs, QdQs, QdQc, QsQc, AdKd, AsKs,
AcKc, Ac5c, AdKh, AdKs, AhKs, AcKh, AcKswe have 18.71% equity and it's almost only split (1.05% to win the full pot)
March 17, 2014 | 11:05 a.m.
Easy fold river when it's hard for him to value bet again a Q and he really don't have many bluff.
That said, I would have second barrel, I think we still have value on a Q and maybe JJ-TT with a club or float with AcK . Also, he shouldn't have much flush so there aren't many combos that beat us and he will hardly ever bluff.
March 17, 2014 | 10:42 a.m.
Really don't like the bluffraise turn. The board look like it hit your range pretty good and even a reg with a high flop and turn barrel shouldn't bluff with total air. villain turn range has every straight, set, 2pairs, pair+draw and huge nopair draw. In another hand, like I said, he shouldn't have lot air and maybe don't second barrel TT+ ...
As for the river, I think it's really close, you need him to fold a bit less than 50%. If he 3bet turn most of his nuts/set turn like he should his river range will be something like (44, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, KcJc, QcJc, AcTc, KcTc, QcTc, Ac9c, Jc9c, Tc9c, Ac7c, 87s, 97s) = 22 combos. So you need him to fold say 21 combo to BE, if he has all the Axhh and broadways suited heart, it's already 15 combos so with the T9, T8 or other hands like those you should be ok but it's high variance.
March 17, 2014 | 5:36 a.m.
oups, my mistake I didn't check the stacksize and pot size more carefully. Thought you was a bit deeper and was still thinking about the other hand I commented where villain made a small overbet
Anyways, def would just jam too if you he just have to call $43 in $54.
About the AA-TT, it's difficult to know. I thought about putting those in his range but it felt too oddly to me. He has a lot of value to bet with at least SB as a weaker player and it would be horrible if you check back. Now it's possible he chooses to play that way with overpair and it's for this reason I shove but I'm a bit in the dark.
March 16, 2014 | 11:52 a.m.
I hardly think he has a big value hand here, don't think he would try to go for a check raise 4ways and take the risk to see you check back (could be different if he checked and there was 3 villains who could stab but here, it's only you!).
Now, I'm really not sure about how to play the hand best. I think I would play like you flop turn but river I would have go wayyy smaller haha. TO me, his range look very weak so I'm trying to let him cry call or raise spew but I don't think he will ever level himself and call worst an unknown's overbet that deep but he still can have some 99 55 played oddly.
March 16, 2014 | 10:40 a.m.
Agree that you clearly rep nothing and if villain is valuebetting and think about your range he will never fold. If he was bluffing, then you could have just call. So imo river you have to choose enter fold or call depending on how much bluff do you think he has.
As for the turn, I think overall it's never too bad to just go ahead and stab.
March 16, 2014 | 10:17 a.m.
you shouldn't have post the result but it definitely a hand I put in his range (im on my 13" laptop so didn't see the result). Villain should def bet and barrel all his value range or, if he ever want to go for a check play, he would have check raise.
His range for check call flop is mostly composed of second pair, bad Q and bad draw because he doesn't want to get raise and doesn't cb much overall. On the turn he could have hit some K, KJ or KT but his range still have a lot of bad Q, and pair + gutshot like the J9 he show up with. The river is def a barrel because his range is really weak and since he doesn't CB much and give up a lot vs stab I would assume he isn't going to herocall anything and remember that you can be holding every combos of nuts to good value hand. Seriously, I wouldn't be surprise if villain fold close to 100% river.
March 15, 2014 | 3:38 p.m.
Clear fold, don't worry about being exploitable at 10nl, like said, villain probably just think you are a random and will call all Ad, maybe Kd so he is trying to maximize his EV by shoving. Also, close to impossible he VB worst or bluff this spot 250bb deep unless he is a huge crazy fish.
March 3, 2014 | 1:08 p.m.
I prefer 4B/gii a lot too, seems very better than calling oop to me.
As played, do you have a big enough sample on villain that would confirm his turn and river CB% ? if no, I like the c/c c/r line. If yes, because it's look like he like to CB flop and give up later, I would prefer c/r flop directly, AK is the best hand we can show up with here, you will give him a hard time with his weaker A and his (very few I guess) draws and it permits you to balance with a bluff flop c/r range because vs a high 3better and flop cbeter I def want to c/r bluff on a perfect board for him to CB 100%.
Feb. 24, 2014 | 2:47 a.m.
I raise A2o
Feb. 18, 2014 | 10:12 a.m.
Agree with ItsTooth, on the turn you are always behind. The only hand you can be ahead of is 67ss and it's really unlikely a passive fish plays it like this.
So pushing the turn, even if your draw looks good (but seriously a raise turn from a passive fish is often a really strong hand so your equity is probably lower than what you think) you just put more money in the pot with the worst hand and with close to 0 fold equity when you could just have call with your equity and your implied odds since villain may never fold river if you hit.
Feb. 18, 2014 | 2:06 a.m.
Yeah I know but for me, 8% is far from what I would consider "the tighter type regs I have seen in terme of 3bet activity" + villain is BTN and 3bet vs CO, I mean with an overall 8% 3bet it's almost certain that BTN is 3betting more than 10% in this spot.
It seems so obvious to me that it's a 4bet/call vs this villain that I thought I was missing something.
Feb. 10, 2014 | 4:17 a.m.
who is the 31/24/8 guy ? I'm a bit confuse, you speak about vilain is one of the tighter type regs you have seen in 400nl and then you say vilain is 31/24/8 over few handred hands.
Feb. 9, 2014 | 9:36 a.m.
I have to agree with ItsTooth, you maybe just ran good at live game, like he said, it would be good to know how much live experience are we talking about.
Now, I don't want to look like an ass or anything and I'm far from a good player but I also don't want you to bust your roll, not that I know you but I don't wish to anyone spewing a huge amount of money.
Ok, so I know the consensus in these situation, when a grinder come to say he run super bad and had to move down one or few limits is to say the basic: " yeah, variance is a bitch, just stay positive and work on your game, maybe take a break and you will be a winner again ..." and it's work in most case because often the guy was a winning player at said 100nl 200nl, start to stop working too much on his game for few months, become a marginal winner at his stakes so the first bad run is destroying him. A guy like that just have to be back focusing and working on the game, maybe play less tables and he should be good with that but you, you just switch enter 2 completely different world.
You, it's kind of different, we don't have much information but from what I read, you played live, you just read few books (since when you think about to subscribe a coaching site you choose to go for an essential membership here, I guess it's the first time you will watch poker training videos). It's the first time you play online, are you multitabling ? There is a big difference enter playing you A game in a live game and playing it consistently multitabling online. Are you table selecting a minimum ?
Also, the fact that you don't use a tracker make me wondering how do you work on your game.
Most player at 1k on PS are working hard on their game. Reviewing their hands, watching video, chating in skype group with others really great pokerplayers, using flopzila/cardrunnerev and even pokersnowy now. Lot try to understand and study game theory related to poker.
So I don't know, like a said we don't know much about your background but if you just read some books about the game and working on your game thinking about it yourself. maybe you are just really -EV at mid stake online and if you expect to be crushing these game, it will probably take time and a lot of work. And I really think that you should forgot about these 70k$. If you keep try to get it back, it could end very bad unfortunately and it's really not easy to make 70k$ in online poker these day.
Jan. 31, 2014 | 2:27 a.m.
Redbaron destroyed the NL500 zoom not so long ago and even though it was at one limit higher that what Chael plays I am assuming that the lower stakes games are even softer.
(bandit)
Jan. 25, 2014 | 4:22 a.m.
So all poker player don't have a fucked up sleeping pattern haha.
Jan. 13, 2014 | 11:14 a.m.
Wake up at 6am, go to sleep at 10:30pm here.
I do not agree not cbting the flop. Villain seems to be a fish and so will have a large limp calling range. The board is super dry and even if he calls A hi or better he will ends up folding too much + we still have 2 overs for when he calls.
River I prefer a donkbet. After he bets small 2 times I don't think he has a lot of 7 and I don't want him to be passive and checkback worst A (that he will call all the time) or a pp (that he may call but prob never bet himself).
May 1, 2015 | 9:02 a.m.