vaffeltroll
32 points
Unless this is zoom or your'e playing more than 4 tables this is a great chance to learn about what that betsize means. Microstake players betsizing and betting patterns are like an exciting adventure every time
Id raise it to like 1.4 and see what happens. If he reraise or call and bet river big youve learned
If you always give him a 80% discount to buy the pot youll be pretty exploitable
People who bet all the time, but small, must be raised more often. Is this that kinda guy? Only one way to find out
June 9, 2018 | 10:36 p.m.
I dont think limping from sb is good in low stakes because i want to take it down pre so i dont pay rake. But thanks for the tip, ill check out the pdf
June 9, 2018 | 10:14 p.m.
You let him block bet with less than 1/4 of the pot for a cheap draw. You could even put in a normal bet and it would still be a decent raise
What are you afraid of? What cards could possibly have you beat at this flop? 8? I dont think so. AA,KK? With a raise he'll be more careful on later streets. Also 10NL might as well play KJ like AA
Elusive mark is of course way better than me, still, he plays on a different level. I think at higher limits people do those kind of bets because they read the board and think oh there's not much you can have hit, and also it's limited risk of you improving to beat something like KK, AA. You are also not likely to call that raise with small sc. We want value from worse hands. So lets bet small and also give ourself a chance to bluff cheaply next time
I'm not convinced the general population do this at 10NL
I think it's more "oh i hope he doesnt bet big i want to see next card for my draw cheap. Because if I have big hand i bet big"
"oh yes i hit my draw, lets put all the money in at once"
June 9, 2018 | 8:50 p.m.
If you think it's a coinflip you should never ever fold this
June 9, 2018 | 7:33 p.m.
I think sb range is fine, at least with between 2 -2,5x bet
June 9, 2018 | 7:28 p.m.
Upswing poker says these are good opening ranges>
Does RIO have a similar chart or charts? One for 3bet or fold would be nice.
SHould some of these change based on rake structure?
Position
Opening Percentage
Range*
UTG
16%
55+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, 76s, AJo+, KQo
MP
20.4%
44+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo
CO
24.9%
22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo
BTN
40.9%
22+, A2s+, K3s+, Q5s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, 43s, A2o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o
SB
47.8%
22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J6s+, T6s+, 95s+, 84s+, 74s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, 32s, A2o+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o
June 9, 2018 | 7:15 p.m.
I dont know why anyone here would follow blackrain. He\s playing just lots of micro, and winning a little bit. Like dollars..He earns more from selling people his books than actual playing. Why not just watch videos here, learn the essentials and move up?
June 9, 2018 | 6:01 p.m.
Idk how it's over at pokerstars, but at the microgaming network they are more than happy to be going all in or calling with TT or AQ at these stakes
Dec. 23, 2017 | noon
Im thinking TT or straight. I don't think you are ever good here.
Minraise on river often mean they don't want you to fold. I recently minraised quad aces on the river. idk if its good play or not, but i reeeally didnt want them to fold
Also im not sure about your check raise on the flop. What is the goal? If you check raise every bottom pair you're waay overbluffing. Your draw is bad. And don't expect them to fold if they have a good draw or pair
Dec. 23, 2017 | 1:35 a.m.
Yeah absolutely happy to get QQ in pre with 100bb.
170bb vs a agressive player yes, vs a nit not so much. But what can you do
Dec. 23, 2017 | 1:24 a.m.
If they fold as much to .12 as 3x, then great. Even .1 is fine as long as they fold the same. The reason 3x is recomended pre in micro is to get fold are more important in micro due to thet rake
Dec. 21, 2017 | 11:50 a.m.
Additional info: I've been minbetting alot because people there was folding to like 1/6th pot size bet if they didnt have anything
Dec. 20, 2017 | 4 p.m.
* Hand # 6794073646 starting - 2017-12-20 16:04:16
* Cawley - €10 Max [Hold'em] (0.05|0.10 NL - Cash Game) Real Money
Hasimba sitting in seat 1 with €10
Littlemoor sitting in seat 2 with €4.26
LOY275 sitting in seat 3 with €11.69[Dealer]
Clonazepam sitting in seat 4 with €10.70
KoTBegemoT sitting in seat 5 with €13.05
Vaffeltroll sitting in seat 6 with €24.04
Clonazepam posted the small blind - €0.05
KoTBegemoT posted the big blind - €0.10
** Dealing cards to Vaffeltroll: Ad, Ah
Vaffeltroll raised to €0.30
Hasimba folded
Littlemoor folded
LOY275 called - €0.30
Clonazepam folded
KoT_BegemoT called - €0.20
** Dealing the flop: Ac, As, 7d
KoTBegemoT checked
Vaffeltroll bet - €0.10
LOY275 called - €0.10
KoTBegemoT called - €0.10
** Dealing the turn: 9c
KoTBegemoT checked
Vaffeltroll bet - €0.10
LOY275 called - €0.10
KoTBegemoT raised to €0.80
Vaffeltroll called - €0.70
LOY275 folded
** Dealing the river: Qh
KoT_BegemoT bet - €1.70
I dont know how I was supposed to play this. It was 3 way so I was hoping for everyone to join, but with all the aces im afraid they don't have anything to call with. So I tanked the turn call to try to induce a bluff on the river. But when we come to the river I don't know if he's bluffing or betting a medium hand or what he's got. What do you think about strategy on this hand?
Dec. 20, 2017 | 3:23 p.m.
They dont know if they are bluffing. When I played 20NL yesterday I was check raised by a guy with top pair. Which was a T
Dec. 19, 2017 | 7:54 p.m.
Doesn't mean he won't have it. If he knew if every decision was +ev or not he wouldnt been playing 5nl
Dec. 19, 2017 | 1:09 p.m.
He might have a hand like A4d. Also he may raise A as a bluff thinking you have like a jack
I'd call unless he is very passive
Dec. 19, 2017 | 12:36 p.m.
Well he did call your preflop raise. He can have a lot of two pairs. He can also have AJs. I think you are very wrong in assuming villain will never have AJs just because general theory is its -EV from that position. It's 10NL. I have seen T2s and 63s call like this. I am definately calling AJs myself against most players because I think I have an edge, and it's really not that bad. Lots of players will also have cards like KQ. You can't sit at micros against random players and assume they will know if every hand is +EV or not and only play them
I'd probably not call with top pair here unless I had a big read. I think they don't overbluff enough like this
Dec. 18, 2017 | 9:48 p.m.
If he thinks you have a queen, which you are repping, he should have bet the river to make sure he gets some value. So what exactly is he putting you on? K when you bet the flop Q and check the turn? I don't think you look like K. And not like KQ.
It seems like a bluff, but of course he could just have chosen to randomly set a what I think would be a bad trap - losing alot of value
Dec. 17, 2017 | 11:25 p.m.
bet turn check back river
Dec. 17, 2017 | 7:43 p.m.
So go through your database and filter for your big losses, and which cards/situations lose you the most. Think them through, maybe use pio. And post some hand histories if you're uncertain about them
No one can magically see what's the issue. Except don't ever 5bet shove a2s even if you think you have perfect read in a 10NL cash game. Also make sure to not play too many tables. You probably played alot when playing MTT. As you're losing I'd keep it at max 2 tables of zoom and really pay attention
Or just play at a different site than pokerstars. Why would anyone ever wanna play there? Toughest opposition, and horrible rake. At MGM you can get 30% rb from the get go. Not as pretty maybe but you are here to make money, not look at smooth UI, no?
Dec. 17, 2017 | 6:43 p.m.
Yeah unless he's really stupid.
Dec. 17, 2017 | 6:28 p.m.
Yeah, easy call. You cant just check fold overpairs like this.
And yeah I'd cbet flop.
Dec. 17, 2017 | 6:26 p.m.
Bet bigger on flop. You give them too good odds to draw and thei'll easily call you with any ace and any draw anyway
If you should fold here or not is really dependent on the type of player. Some like to bet big to bluff , but smaller to get a callwhen you check, and some only bet this big with value. Both are really exploitative if you pay attention
Dec. 15, 2017 | 12:10 p.m.
I would not call T6s OOP vs a decent sized 4bet. I don't have a big 4bet calling range but it's often cards that play well postflop. Broadway suited connectors for example. And JJ. OOP I play mostly linear unless I smell weakness
Villain must be thinking alot AND have played a lot of hands with you before they can know you never call with AA at for example 135bb+. I think you must go higher in stakes before most multitabling regs with 300hand history on you can guesstimate this well enough to be a problem
I very rarely get AA, and even more rarely get them to showdown
Dec. 14, 2017 | 4:20 p.m.
Why? They'll call down with ALOT. Some people call 3 barrels with the last one being an all in, with third pair
Best thing is to just mark who is calling station and who is nit, and violate them all
Dec. 14, 2017 | 1:08 p.m.
Maybe you had been reraising his steals alot? When i sense they reraise a little too often I like to reraise them again.Often with very weak hands. Most of the time they fold. When they don't fold and dont raise again their hand is pretty visible so outplaying them on the flop works ok.
And sometimes I just hit it, like this villain
When I am this deep with AA I like to reraise it again preflop. Maybe I turn my hand face up and maybe I dont give them chance to give me the rest of their money. But I avoid difficult situations like you faced here
Also on the flop I reraise. I rereaise because I very often bluff reraise here assuming villain didnt hit it either because he raised pre (if they have a too high cbet. I don't vs passive players) I win a lot of money like this with hands like AK. Idk if it's the most correct play but it has been working very well for me and make things simple. They may very well be drawing on the flop, and I don't let them for one third flop bet
Dec. 14, 2017 | 1:03 p.m.
It could be a suited connector used to resteal. Button should play a polarized strategy preflop, no? So raise is premium hands and some bluff suited connectors while hands like KQo would call the 3bet
Dec. 14, 2017 | 12:48 p.m.
I don't see anything wrong with this
Dec. 13, 2017 | 10:21 p.m.
I would have bet bigger on the flop but I think its correct other than that
If we assume villain must have TT, AA or QQ sure
But then he must be reeeally scared of the hero drawing. He should rather want hero to call but at an too expensive price if he has those cards
I dont have enough experience with cash game 200BB overbet to know this one yet. But spewy overbets, all in but not 200b, on flop are often for top pair (but not high value) on board, or draw or just angry/maniac. And they make me alot of BI
Id probably fold most of the time just cause its a lot of BB to risk. but im not convinced if it is or is not the most +ev at 10NL.
If its a weekend night, and not on pokerstars , its definately a call
June 9, 2018 | 11:37 p.m.