thiagohuang

Is this still a thing nowadays?

I made this calc assuming they are going to fold 66% of the time just to illustrate what I´m assuming as the best-case scenario (both players just folding). That said, the real EV should be under this very low threshold (often times negative).

I´m not saying he is folding against a pot-sized 3bet. It´s just that some other players might get trapped in a sandwich after they call PF like this guy on BB that would be leaving at least 7 extra bbs in the pot or someone could even 4bet a hand like AKK, AKQQ, idk.

That said, I´m not sure about this play though. Just saying it is worth considering especially when the original PFR is a maniac.

I think you are underestimating how often they might have aces on this spot.
I ran it on ProPokertools with these parameters:
Ranges: BTN - 60%, SB:12%.

How often at least 1 player match hand range AA? (given that you have this hand).
And the answer is: 33.2%

This means 1/3 of the time you get it in against aces (38% equity) losing approximately 23bbs each time. (Just a rough estimative considering dead money and rake).

Now, if they fold EVERYTIME when they don´t have aces after your 4bet (2/3 of the time), you make 14bbs, giving you an average of less than 2bb gained per 4bet. This considering the BEST scenario everytime.

If you think you can make more money when someone call compared to when both players fold, you can go ahead and 4bet. Otherwise, the reward just isn´t there and variance is going through the roof.

Yeah just pot it. I understand that you want to pull low equity hands in but that´s exactly what they need to continue. Too many cards too counterfeit your hand on the turn and the cards that improve your hand are action killers. Just pot it. This is PLO20, I´m sure a lot of bad players are willing to stack-off straight draws with lower flush draws, top two pair with a straight draw, etc...

I wouldn´t 3bet this holding here. It´s ok SB against a loose BTN opener. But here villain is isolating a limper. I assume his range is a lot stronger compared to a regular BTN steal. Besides that, the limper may call as well and this hand isn´t amazing in 3 way pots.
Not sure if you can call against 4bets as well. It´s probably marginally +EV given that it´s double suited but taking PLO10 rake into consideration I guess it´ll be close to break even.

Postflop I´m fine with your flop play, you won´t get much value here, you don´t have much to protect against and you´ll be able to call most of the turns so not a big deal. Turn I´d rather bet to charge weaker hands, he has a lot of weaker straight draws/pair+FD/straight draws+FD that you can get value from. If you have a read that this guy might overbluff here I´m ok with checking as well.

I think the min-3bet is fine. It´s player dependant, but I think most of the time he won´t shove and you´ll be missing some EV. When he shoves though you´ll get a lot of EV.

Flop and turn I don´t see any reason to not bet. I think you´ll have the best hand more than 80% of the time. Just bet/bet/shove for value if the river isn´t a flush completing card.

You definitely have equity to get in it here. You are clearly losing only against hands with a higher FD and blockers to your outs.

I think this hand won´t be -EV if you decide to play it by check-calling. You´ll just call flop and call any turn I think. The problem is that Villain may play well against your hand by checking behind a lot of turns.

There are some merits to c/raising all-in though. First I think you just have equity advantage against his get it in range. Besides that, you´ll give him a chance to fold, this may happen rarely given that he potted the flop tho but this can actually happen in PLO5 I guess.

I really like the video too man. Thank you.

PF it´s a fold to me because your cards are too low for an UTG open.

As played, flop I would just fold too for a couple of reasons, your draw is not that good given that you won´t make the nuts with an 8, there is a flush draw on the board and the pot is 3way.

Turn seems like an easy fold given that now you can be drawing dead and another fd hits.