thecrook88
1 points
Hi Paul @ 38 mins you 3bet Jacks in the BB and mention that Qxx is a bad flop for V's range so a great board for us to bet aggressively. Isn't he going to have all KQs, QJs, AQs, AQo and potentially QTs and KQo if he likes to call a little wider. Seems like a Q really smashes his calling range?
Jan. 21, 2016 | 11:10 p.m.
Given that V is more than capable of calling down with worse than A J why do you feel this is spewy?
Dec. 28, 2015 | 10:03 p.m.
Thanks for the message.
I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of his range in this particular hand though.
Even if we assume he doesn't shove his pair + flush draws and other combo flush draws and give him a strong range of KT, AT, All combos of T7, all sets and all overpairs, plugging in that range vs A9hh on Flopzilla gives us 40% equity against his range.
Given that this is BVB, I believe a lot of V's are shoving hands like 89hh and pair + flush draws a lot of the time as well given how small our value range raising range is.
With the equity against his range and the dead money all in the pot I believe this makes it a call here.
If we're just raising here to be profitable by having fold equity against a lot of his c-bets on the flop and to take free turn cards and with a plan to fold to a reshove wouldn't it make more sense to raise your weaker draws that will have very similar fold equity and still have the opportunity to realize equity cheaply OTR by checking back turn. Seems like the results will be very similar and you won't waste the equity of a big draw.
Although equity of a big draws reduces by half on the turn if it bricks (as you mentioned), the combination of the ability to play our range effectively on the river and the amount of equity we still have OTT often means we can call turn profitably (villain dependent) even if we don't have the immediate pot odds.
Would love to hear anymore thoughts on how best to include draws when constructing flop raising ranges
Dec. 27, 2015 | 10:28 p.m.
SB: $47.90
BB: $50.75 (Hero)
UTG: $50.50
MP: $52.85
CO: $69.40
BB lost and shows a pair of Tens.
SB wins $93.30
Rake is $2.50
Dec. 20, 2015 | 12:24 p.m.
Have around 1k hands on v who plays a pretty active style postflop although quite tight 3bet range. His stats are 23/18/5% 3bet with 67% cbet%.
We have some history and he's seen me raise dry backdoor flush draws and barrel off light a couple of times.
I figure his range is very wide pre to ISO the fish that limps but don't love 3betting AJo so decide to call and play a 3way pot.
I certainly wouldn't raise flop as standard but given that my value range is so small when raising the flop I know villain is capable of calling off flop raise and turn shove with weaker jacks and pocket pairs 77-TT if the turn bricks off so thought I'd go for thinner value and raise.
Given that the fish is still in the pot to act and is quite stationy do people think just calling has more merit than raising? Also, given how wide villians c-bet range is otf, his air heavy range means he'll just fold a lot on the flop and we lose value from a strong top pair hand.
As said, I do think V is capable of calling flop raise and turn shove light given our history and my perceived flop value raising range but I'm wandering if the other factors make calling a better line in this instance?
Here's a link to the hand: https://www.weaktight.com/h/567699f6d39043ca358b4770
Any thoughts appreciated
Cheers
Dec. 20, 2015 | 12:09 p.m.
thanks for the feedback on the hand, I agree.
RE the HH, the software is on the english language version so that's not it. The HH also works when I post into a converter site and 2+2, just not on here...
Dec. 20, 2015 | 11:50 a.m.
Firstly, can anybody advise on why 'invalid hand' reports come up when I've pasted in the full script of a hand?
It doesn't work on the Stars or 888 HH I've been posting in from PT4. Is there anything I could be doing wrong?
Here's a link to the hand https://www.weaktight.com/h/56750a0fd3904375398b46b4
Flop the straight and get check raised on the turn. Is this an easy fold?
No real history with V, 85 hands playing 27/22/10%, seems like he has some moves but not enough of a solid read to confirm anything concrete.
Given our lack of history are people just folding turn here?
Any thoughts appreciated,
Cheers
Makes sense, thanks for detailed response. Just ran it through flopzilla and we're so far ahead. This has definitely been a mistake in my game when assigning our equity against defend ranges in 3bet pots
Jan. 22, 2016 | 12:11 a.m.