tallgeese

Are you saying not many good cards can come for us if we bet turn, so you are c/c here as well? Cheers

Well said...

Hmm.. Sorry not sure if you read my paragraph at the bottom, but I know mp1 is V-betting a better hand. I'm trying to get him to fold that to a big turn squeeze raise on this connected board, and have SB come along with his (now obvious to me) draw.

Anyone raise the turn here? 40c into a 3.15 pot seems way too weak I would just auto raise-here, presuming for value. Prob check back river

Runitslow> Chip away at his stack and catch him when you have the set

Sorry, I don't quite understand this. Against a lagtard, who is presumably aggro and spewy, won't he be chipping away at your stack? Until you finally catch the set , at which point you don't know if you'll be paid off or not? That strategy seems weak to me. You consider top pair top kicker on a very drawy board to be a "marginal stand" ? It really depends on villain's spewing tendencies I guess, but if hes very aggro with draws this is an easy get-in no? He doesn't rep 1010 or JJ, only 44 or draws. Also, I would like to know why you guys prefer to flat the flop and proceed from there. I understand to keep his potential bluffs in but your hand is super vulnerable on this board.

My opinion of course, which can always be convinced otherwise. Cheers