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Eff. stacks on river is 842
How would you play this hand?
On the river when facing a polarised range like this i would want to c/r with my nuts and my bluffs that doesn't block his missed draws (or blocks his value), but the stacksizes doesn't allow this. I estimate his calling range on the river to be like 9Tss,KJ,JJ,77,KQ,KTs (23combos) and his folding range the missed spade-draws and a couple missed heart-draws(about 16 combos).
When im facing a range this polarised could I exploitative bet a really small sizing since his calling range will be about the same as if I bet bigger? He picks up som pairs on the Jh turn although that make him less polarised on the river and could find a call vs smaller sizes and fold vs bigger.
Thanks in advance RIO
Jan. 6, 2014 | 8:38 p.m.
Missread your post Before, thought you said AQ when you said QT
Jan. 3, 2014 | 12:19 a.m.
I will take this line with 77 sometimes since I wont loose value vs his valuerange anyways and its a nice hand to CRAI turn since I dont block his calling Jx and its a board he will barrell of very often (imo). That the board favors his range is an argument for me too check flop since i want to balance my c/f range.
What`s the point of blocking some str8`s when you never have T9?
If I hold a ten I block some of his valuecombos (str8s) and if I block a Q i block some of his bluffing combos. I wanna block his value and not bluffs when i CR bluff.
Jan. 2, 2014 | 10:45 p.m.
I dont think that being willing to barrell a hand have that much to do with if I can c/c it or not, can you explain your thoughts further?
As I wrote above I would take this line with 88,78 and would def c/c 77 flop a bit. I agree that this isnt that much of a value range.
I wouldn't c/r AQ OTT since I block many of his bluffing combos (Q9,QT and others) and I dont block the str8
Jan. 2, 2014 | 9:06 p.m.
Agreed that we should be cbetting dry-ish boards, I altough don't agree withyou that we cant c/c this hand on this board. I think our EQ is more than enough for that on flop? How should holding Ad/Td in our hand effect our flop line? We have more barreling cards but can also c/c more comfortable and blocks some of his bluff-hands.
A big reason to my turn play was that this guy didnt bet 78 flop and probably not 88 so his valuerange isnt that big with my T-blocker.
I would take this line with 88,78 and i would def c/c 77 flop a fair amount since i wont loose value against his value anyways and balance my c/c a bit. I agree with you that my valuerange isnt that big but the reason behind this play is too exploit his wide bettingrange.
If I think he's stacking turn with T9,77,33,JT,QJ,KJ,AJ he has 60combos of value and if he bets flop/turn with all FDs, 56,45, and hands like Q9xc,KTxc etc we should be able too fold out enough combos to make the CRAI proiftable.
Its def is a cracky hand(played for fun HU vs a friend) but I think its funny too discuss and I dont think my move is supercold (or well, with my hand its cold, but i dont think his range will play good vs the turn push)
Jan. 2, 2014 | 6:40 p.m.
What do you guys think? Do I have enough FE or do you guys think I should c/c or c/f turn?
Jan. 2, 2014 | 4:26 p.m.
The hand:http://weaktight.com/6345863
Do you guys like c/c this hand on the flop to balance how often I'll c/f this flop as 3bettor?
What do you guys think my turnplay should be? Clear c/c since I have nice EQ and not that big of a value-pushing range? C/r to fold out his 44 combos of non diamonds/spades KJ,KQ,AJ,AQ(if he doesnt get in AQ pre)?
What should i generally think of when choosing between a bluffcatchy line or a bet-line as pfr with borderline hands(not a ton of showdown-value and a bit EQ)?
1.Enough EQ?
2.Good implied odds?
3.Boards where I need to protect my checking range?
4.Boards where I wont fold out that much with a bet, making a cbet less attractive?
5.Boards where I can come to showdown a fair amount and realize my EQ?
6.More?
Thanks in advance, bye!
Dec. 21, 2013 | 3:41 p.m.
thanks for a good video! very fun concept and easy to understand!
Sept. 15, 2013 | 6:45 p.m.
Hi, played this hand a while ago and have been wondering a bit about how to play play my range when checked too turn in this spot.
The boxes are what range i call flop with, checks turn with and bets turn with.
Reasonings for my ranges OTT:I check back the ace high FDs because they have showdownvalue and can checkdown river if offered and maybe call a bet. I also check back AJo because it has SDV and im planing too checkdown if offered and turn the non-diamonds AJo to bluffs if checked too. The reason why I want to push the non-diamonds and not thoose with diamonds are because thoose with diamonds blocks Axdd,Jxdd hands that he might planned to c/r turn but know bluffing river instead. I don't wanna block his potential bluff-combos for obvious reasons.
The 44-77 I checkback too balance my bluff range and the reason why I checkback the kings with diamond kickers are also to balance up my river bluffs(AJo) and because they block some outs if he plan to c/r a FD.
NOTE!: Im balanced in this riverbluff situation. My push range river should contain about 25% bluffs if I push when he bets ~$120 and it contains 0,24%
I bet 88-99 because I can get value from AQ,AJ,7x c/c and the FDs because they have no showdown value so they cant go checkback turn and river as my A-high FDs can.
NOTE!: I can defend my minimum defense % vs a checkraise with this range OTT.
Since it will be difficult to construct a balanced river raise range and still defend enough vs turn c/raises because I dont have enough valuehands in my range to play a mixed(?) turn strategy(checking and betting), should I maybe checkback my whole range OTT and then construct my river range such as I raise(or bet if checked too) Kx,Full Houses and missed FDs without showdownvalue? Edit: I calculated the river bluff situation wrong so this is'nt longer a problem but I still wonder what you think about checking back your whole range OTT.
I would appreciate your guys thougts on my thougts (haha), and how you guys would would construct your range and why you would do so.
PS: It might be (probably) some mathematical mistakes and I'm sorry if so and I also apologize for my semi-bad english. Have'nt slept for while and this is my first thread so please have a little indulgence :D
i actually dont see why he cant have sets and flushes lol! :p and im not sure he will fold an overpair by the river!
Jan. 19, 2014 | 4:40 p.m.