suwasup
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Hello, guys. I play on Pokerstars NJ(incase you dont know, it is Pokerstar for the US, New Jersey area in specific, and it is soft)
I moved up to NL100 this year, and I play NL200 sometimes when there are enough fish on the table.
Long story short, I had a pretty good mouth for Jan, pretty bad for Feb and March (still winning , but only 2.5bb/100 overall)
Overall Win rate
I decided to check my hand history data in PT4, Finding out that according to the book Modern Poker Theory, the biggest problem I have is BN and EP, I could improve my play at BB and SB as well, and here is the data.
PS. All the data are from the hand history when there are 4-6 players on the table.
Preflop
I use BTS Preflop range, but I dont follow it 100%, I play little tighter than the range.
The leak I found here is that I 3bet too little at BN, SB, BB. according to the BTS range, I will increase My BN 3bet to 12%. SB 3bet Steal to 13.5%, and BB 3 bet steal to 15%. Do you think these are good frequency?
Also, I fold too much at BN and SB when I face 3bet, I dont know what the heck I was doing at BN to fold 60%. what is the frequency I should fold at BN when facing 3bet? 40? How about SB? shuold I keep the same or call more since I am OOP ?
My 4bet range is just terrible, there is barely any bluff. I am going to add some more hands in my 4bet range.
Is 65% fold to steal at BB too much? I think its about 50% in BTS range, but the rake may different and the player pool here dont have as many steals as the chart.
Postflop
I dont know what the frequency should be, but I think I cbet too much at EP and MP?
Also, for BN, should I Cbet little less, like 60%? My fold to turn probe is 57% because my checking range is just too weak. and It affect my red line
is there any other factor that affect my redline as well?
Do you guys know how can I find out why exactly my EP and BN win rate is so low other than weak checking range?
I know that there are way too many questions, also, if anyone knows coach who can review my hand history, please let me know.
March 22, 2021 | 6:15 a.m.
I had a downswing about 2 month ago, and it was when I thought I was good at it and I was ready to beat NL50. I lost 10 buyins in 3 days. it starts with bad luck and I was not sure if I tilted and made some bad decisions. I posted my hand history on 2+2, and some people told me that I actually made a lot of wrong decisions, so I realized that im not quite there yet. I had been wining, and I think I could still win if I wasn't unlucky, but mainly because the game is soft on the site.
I stoped playing for about a month, and focus on studying GTO. and then I learned that I have to do certain things at certain points, but the result is not something I can control. for example, I understood that when villain do this kind of thing, he can have air or nuts, All I have to do is call sometimes and fold sometimes, if he has nut, I lose, but It doesn't mean I played bad. set of set? it happens, but I should go all in, it is the correct play.
Also, I realized I could not handled the loses at NL50, I will be tiled by losing 10 buyins, even 5. so I decided to move down to NL30, and build my bankroll until I feel comfortable losing another 10 buyins at NL50
Aug. 19, 2020 | 7:52 a.m.
polarbearandpenguin it should be more than enough as long as you fully understand every concepts it covers
plus its only $50 and you can get one month membership for free as well
Aug. 13, 2020 | 5:03 a.m.
Mudkip I highly recommend you to read Play Optimal Poker if you love math, those books are more math/theory toward than Modern Poker Theory. the first book is ok, its not too difficult to understand. Im currently studying the second one, and i have to say it is pretty hard for me, its not something you can understand once you read it, you have to really study it(maybe one of the reason is that English is not my first language, and its challenging for me to solve difficult problems in English )
Anyway, I think you would enjoy POP more if you are a math nerd
Aug. 12, 2020 | 7:05 p.m.
The most basic class I ever took was "Crush Micro Stakes Online Poker: The Complete Mastery Guide" on Udemy. They also have a website that offer discount, feel free to check it out. This series of videos are all about basic knowledge, and I think it could help you to understand "From The Ground Up" better.
IMO, "From The Ground Up" is not for completely beginners, you need to have certain knowledge at first.
If you just want to be a regular who beat NL50, Nl30, maybe NL100, I think those two classes should be more than enough.
However, If you want to be a professional player, I think you should study GTO, and it is the only way to fully understand the game of poker from the core, but it is so boring and its like studying math. It will take you a lot of time and effort, its not worth it at all if you just want to have fun.
Here is my recommendation of learning GTO( you still need basic knowledge in order to understand these books) :
Play Optimal Poker 1&2 by Andrew Brokos: very hardcore poker theory book, it teach poker theory by using toy games, it like learning math more than learning poker.
Modern Poker Theory by Michael Acevedo: this one is more like a text book from school, it tells you the ranges, the cbet frequency, etc. more of a poker book than Play Optimal Poker.
I would recommend you to read Andrew first and then Michael.
Aug. 11, 2020 | 10:43 p.m.
hey,guys. I just thought of a interesting question.
PokerSnowie is a AI poker tool, and it plays against itself to improve. how come it doesn't become a pure GTO tool? I mean wont it keep choosing the highest EV option and end up being pure GTO? especially it is against itself, who also choose the highest EV option all the time, which is impossible to exploit(deviation from GTO strategy)
July 23, 2020 | 11:10 p.m.
Yes, From the Ground up is a great course! and its only $50. I ve seen it and it improved my game a lot. and im now reading his book The Grinder's Manual.
June 26, 2020 | 9:11 p.m.
I have a thought that GTO is a required poker course. or let say the foundation of modern poker, because any imbalance, or dominated strategies, which can be exploited, are based on the deviation from nash equilibrium, which is GTO strategy.
people say you should not play GTO strategy at micro stack because your villains make too many mistakes, you should try to exploit them as much as you can. but isnt it still based on the understanding of GTO? it just their mistakes are too obvious in micro stack that you dont realize you apply GTO strategy. or GTO thought.
June 26, 2020 | 6:07 a.m.
I just had another thought on GTO.
any imbalance, or dominated strategies, are based on the deviation from nash equilibrium, which is GTO strategy.
In another word, when you try to exploit villain, what you do is find his leak, which is where his strategies deviate from GTO strategy. and change your strategy to exploit him. but everything is based on the understanding of GTO
is this correct? if so, does it make GTO the only strategy that work? (if everyone is smart enough like super computer)
June 26, 2020 | 5:38 a.m.
update:
I talked to someone in a group chat and found out that, unlike rock paper scissor, there are dominated strategies in NLH.(it basically means the strategies worse than the others). for example: all in with 27o all the time and fold any other hands. you will lose against GTO strategy.
dominted strategy don't exist in the game of rock paper scissor. no matter what strategies villain use, both of you will have 0EV as long as you play GTO strategy.
my guess is that NLH and RPS have different type of nash equilibrium
June 26, 2020 | 2:32 a.m.
if there is nash equilibrium in NLH, does it make NLH the same game as rock paper scissor(i know its million times more complicate) ?
for example, in the game of rock paper scissor,let's say you earn 1 point when you win, you lose 1 point when you lose, and when you tie, you earn 0 point. in this case, if you do rock 1/3 the time, paper 1/3 the time, scissor 1/3 the time, you are playing pure GTO, no matter what your opponent do, you will always get 0 point in the long run. however, if your opponent doesn't use the same strategy as you do(pure GTO), you can change your strategy to exploit him, but at the same time, you are no longer playing pure GTO, which you are not at nash equilibrium anymore.
in conclusion, if you use pure gto, no matter what your opponent do, your EV should be 0 in the long run?
Is this the correct understanding of GTO and Nash Equilibrium? please leave your common
June 25, 2020 | 9:14 p.m.
yea, i paid 100 dollars for it so i cant just not using it.
I mainly use Scenarios to analyst my hand when there's no one i can discuss my hand with
I still sometime use snowie to analys my whole session, simple because I have like 5000 analyst per month, why not?
June 14, 2020 | 11:49 p.m.
I asked the same question on 2+2 before. here is the link:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69/micro-small-stakes-pl-nl/should-i-learn-pokersnowie-1768118/?highlight=
June 14, 2020 | 10:34 p.m.
BB: $76.81 (Hero)
UTG: $76.79
MP: $37.75
CO: $45.84
BN: $46.34
My thought at the moment was since he only bet 1bb, he might have a lot of draws( I think this is what fish like to do to build to pot)
perhaps I should just call his 22.5 raise so that he can have more bluff in his range?
I raised him all in because his SPR was low, was it correct?
BN wins and shows two pair, Kings and Queens.
BN wins $96.43
Rake is $2.50
June 14, 2020 | 9:22 p.m.
MP: $50.00
CO: $32.06
BN: $51.35
SB: $255.33
BB: $41.98
but this one is different than hand 2, I could defiantly have 99 and 88, and I am OOP, so I think this is ok to raise and put him all in on turn
when he called, I thought he had aces, AQ AK with a spade.
I wanted him to fold his AK/AQ/AA, which was all the hands he had here( at least what i thought)
I never put him on jacks.
However, I think this is a reasonable play, what do you think?
BN wins and shows a straight, Eight to Queen.
BN wins $100.95
Rake is $2.50
June 14, 2020 | 9:09 p.m.
BB: $40.00
UTG: $50.75 (Hero)
MP: $24.18
CO: $49.43
BN: $102.65
He could barely have 2 pair, and I didnt think he would donk with a set
so I raised him and i knew he was gonna call
but when I am reviewing this hand, I think I shouldnt raise the flop if I try to represent the set.
do you think its more believable if i raise/bet big on turn and shove river?
UTG lost and shows high card Ace.
SB wins $78.38
Rake is $2.50
June 14, 2020 | 8:53 p.m.
CO: $45.71
BN: $54.54
SB: $47.75
BB: $67.60 (Hero)
UTG: $50.36
I think I played ok until turn
1. he's gonna all in or bet big if he had 9T, and i had to call anyway, and if i bet small, hes gonna raise me for sure with 9T
2. if he had AQ, KQ, or even seven he might not bet, (because he just called my check raise on turn, this made me think he had AQ) so i have to bet here for value.
BB lost and shows three of a kind, Jacks.
CO wins $90.42
Rake is $2.50
June 14, 2020 | 8:38 p.m.
UTG: $99.84
CO: $70.97 (Hero)
BN: $70.25
SB: $23.70
Rake is $0.84
June 12, 2020 | 1:45 a.m.
also, what is your thought on open raise range when there is a limper who limps more than half of the time?
June 12, 2020 | 1:23 a.m.
UTG: $43.95
CO: $39.49
BN: $54.64 (Hero)
SB: $69.54
Rake is $1.66
June 12, 2020 | 1:21 a.m.
I can see some hands prefers checking but you might not have them in your range.
thank you for you relpy
i dont quite understand this, can you please explain it. what do you mean i dont have them in my range? is it because my 3bet frequency is not very high?
June 12, 2020 | 1:04 a.m.
thank you for your common.
the reason for me to bet half pot size is
1) Im OOP, villain can call 1/3 PSB more often since he is IP(i find out most people would easily call 1/3 PSB with a lot of hand, thats why i dont like 1/3 PSB) . and this is all i thought at that movement. i know betting 1/3 pot size is what GTO suggest but i just dont get it especially when im oop.
2) I think this board is very good for me, I can have more Qx in my range, and villain just dont hit this board very often, so i basically cbet with everything in my range on this board. what do you think?
June 12, 2020 | 12:57 a.m.
SB: $53.28
BB: $69.81 (Hero)
UTG: $136.27
MP: $69.89
CO: $51.25
MP wins and shows two pair, Queens and Eights.
MP wins $20.85
Rake is $1.10
June 11, 2020 | 3:09 a.m.
Not only that but we don't even need our call to be winning. It needs to make it so that we lose less than 1BB overal. Because if we just fold that's what would happen, lose a big blind.
This makes a lot of sense. Thank you very much
June 5, 2020 | 9:17 p.m.
I am currently watching "From the Ground up" , and Peter mentioned that we should defend a wide range in BB against preflop opener because of the pot odds. Plus CO and BTN would open with a wide range( according to him, "high/low equity steal"), so that our hand such as Q5s wouldn't be too bad against their range.
but in micro and small stake, i dont think there are so many player would really steal the pot in position since their PFR is as low as 20-30 at CO/BTN,(I play NL50 on Pokerstar NJ) which means if we call with hands like Q5s, K4s, our hand is often dominated by their range, plus they are in position.
In this case, should we still defend blind with a wide range just because we have good pot odds?
also, I have a deeper understanding of win rate. My average win rate is 8bb/100. that means when I have a good run and doing 50bb/100 for 1000 hands, im guaranteed to lose some later. vise versa, If I have a bad run and losing 50bb/100 for 1000 hands, im gonna win some.
Aug. 19, 2020 | 8:02 a.m.