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i see, i misread the end of your first post, thought u wanted to check turn, but ur wanted to check flop:) sorry then im fine:)

im a bit confused:)

so u feel that he is turning overpair into bluffs, betting a clubflush, or doing weird stuff w trips. but he wont have many club flushes and he wont turn AAxx or overpair into bluffs...but u still manage to come to the conclusion that one should call:)? Elaborate plz?:)

villain seems capable enough, but loose pre.
if u like checking back turn w such a hand, what do u barrel turn with then?

dont get it, straddled to 20? then all those hands just limp to ur friend in the blinds and boom? if so, he just got tired of all the weak limping and decided to punish shove and prayed to lose a few limpers:)

agree w GOW, id consider folding if i had 12k+ behind..but no...prolly not fold there either..

Progressive, as far as I know, is 14-16 card FL, respectively for QQ,KK,AA+. Any remain(quads+ or trips UT) is back to 14 cards. 4 card discard, is use all 3 or two, or none on ur draw, need to discard 4 cards out of 12.

Penny for your thoughts on live play video or recording?

So badeucy is a mix 2-7triple and badugi, where best respective chop? I'm just midway through, so ignore this part if explained later.

Thank you so much for your thoughts on these mixed split formats, I'm especially interested in the doubleB PLO chop version, even though "best hand" sounds like it has some important considerations.

I do enjoy FL as much as the next guy, but out of a strategy stand point, any PL variation is much appreciated(hate getting blasted off\stuck in tough relative position spots).

Thank you for the insights, I do appreciate the maths and examples. Especially the last one, w the pair of 5's at the bottom, always thought it was roughly 33% to qualify w a 2-card low draw.

Don't wanna add to your workload, but it would be interesting to see how you would adjust in a live video, or from a playback. Im not too fast on the fly, and making charts for heads up play, or three-way...would be..just crazy in my opinion..especially since ofc seems to change every 6 months or so. At the moment, I'm trying pineapple 4card discard progressive...variance is extremely brutal, and any miscalculation is devastating. In a three way live setting, asking ppl to wait while I "update Twitter" every hard decision...is a sure way to get ousted from the game.

Thanks again.

hello, i have been looking for the rules of these games, such as super stud especially. Do you know anywhere i can read up on these, need some practice in case i do find myself there.

openfacesolutions. dont know if its allowed to promote stuff here so..at least im not gonna give u a link.

I forgot the name, sorry. but google it. should be readily available.

PS i should maybe have mentioned its $$$

if one folds QQ here, then what would a 4bet range look like..only KK+. Seems like an invitation to get 3 betted alot..one may argue that QQ should be in one's calling 3bet range, which is borderline fine, id prefer calling when deeper. Also there is no mention what part of the tourney it is, bubble vs early seems like a big consideration.

DISCLAIMER: If you have a large sample vs your opponent, and he 3bets is 1-2%...yeah folding is a consideration..but that kind of a player seems rather rare nowadays.

My comment to this post: I am not a fantastic MTT player, but i dont think one can totally avoid situations where variance has a big role. Thus getting your chips in good..is pretty much all one could ask for.

I dont understand this post, you got your chips in good? giving him a chance to catch makes no sense to me, nor does folding..

its not that nobody has any experience, its just that your question is not specific enough to give a good answer. And playing vs the bot(ABC), is useless in my opinion.

OFC has been solved already, and its just a matter of remembering the correct strategy during the different situations...so in other words..playing vs a "real" bot, ur lose-rate(most likely) would be the EV of your mistakes vs the perfect bot play.

Typical completion is easy to check, just search online for that number.

Skill would be minimum mistakes and best strategic and tactical decisions(during tournament).

for the first hand: My first consideration is AQs might not be a good hand to call a 7.5x raise pre from UTG+1, if you have some read, small 3 bet maybe? Flop call is ok, but turnbet seems not necessary if you consider his check range, vs turnbet range.

Second hand: making it 35 to go from the button seems like a mistake, considering stack sizes. If u get shipped on, u have a pretty nasty decision..u get called, roughly 40% comes an overcard and u have a weird SPR...everybody folds seems like the best option albeit unlikely.

I am hardly a nit, but in a 9-handed NL game 100bb deep, both situations seems like bad spots, no reason to get there. But since you had your boots on the ground, maybe you had a different feeling that got you there..feel free to elaborate.

If this is a day trip than fine, but any longer..i would not consider it. live play is usually played deeper than online, sitting there with 80bb is pretty much a crap shoot, and prolly put you more on tilt than make you any money.

Unless you are sitting with a bunch of nits(unlikely on PLO), whatever you have pre, will have multiple callers, you wont have enough ammo to fire them off or to maximize your profits.

I think it depends on how loose and deep the game is on average, if the max buyin(pretty nitty for a live game) is 100bb, i wouldnt even consider playing, as each called allin would cost 7.5bb.

If you are interested what is too high, i would consider all-in equity minus 7.5 bb a decent answer over a decent sample.

I think for live, the dealers choice format is superior to any other game.

Not only are there tactical considerations for each game, but strategic considerations for which game to play.

More cards in PLO usually means the game gets nittier as the stacks grow and fullring.

If you do not know any other game than NLHE, you should give it a sht, as you find yourself in different spots that requires different considerations which you can use in your holdem game.

Hi again,
I guess I am asking for where i could find, more or less a cheat-sheet, where i could directly compare my stats to see where my stats are different. Though i probably should watch the videos again, a sheet could provide more stats and a easier comparison.

Sorry for the trouble

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another great post, thanks.

Have to admit that most of those hands on the video, are mostly in my raising range. I have a rather large issue, with my check/call range, as it seems. Both in my metagame(dont enjoy calling oop) and tracker.

According to my tracker, I fold way too much on both flop and river, this video takes care of my flop fold, and you did mention something about an uneven turn-check as well(j240585 17:00min in)..which should help with river:)

Thanks, this is one of the most useful videos i have seen. I am one of those donks that have a tracker but i dont really understand how to use it properly, this was a real eye opener.

Is there anywhere i can see a summary how stats should look like? I have all this information and percentages, but having a guideline and some idea would be incredibly useful for donks:)

Thanks again for a great video,

hello,
I have that issue as well. I didnt read through all of the comments, but I think that getting picked off, and folding while card dead are different situations which lead to in my case to negative but different emotions.

Getting picked off, is somewhat like getting caught w ur hand in the cookie jar, feel a bit embarrassed, stupid and prolly pissed bout money lost. Toss in a bit of self hate, in the case you consciously forced yourself to bluff(for balance and metagame).

Solution: Shit aint easy, but one has to try to see how the hand played out, how was your line compared to his, range vs range. Was it a poor bluff or poor timing. When getting picked off, its hard to just focus on how the hand went down, and make a mental note how to get that money back...and then just wait for the hammer to fall..

Carddead is a bit different, one gets bored, one wanna turn into the hulk and just effin crush, one get endless comments on how tight one is. One gets pissed of watching weaker players play their weak game, and feel that "if that was me, i would have stacked his ass, why am i not getting anything?", "this is messing w my winrate, I should be the table captain" etc

And stupidly enough, one tries to prove it to ourself or them with some marginal, we win, we back on track..we lose..its downhill from here..

Soultion: suck it up and realize how folding for couple of hours either: limits your lines from your opponents view and increases the lines from your own perspective..i.e you think you can get away with bluffs. Problem is: everyone's perspective rarely are the same..especially in poker. So what does one have to do? You just have to remember: That PATIENCE is a skill that is way underrated..and we all need it.

Bit late, but felt i have the same issue so i had to give my 50 cents..

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To Disharmonist,
I totally agree with you, but I can not decline playing another players round, all i can do is play as well as i can.

A rule of thumb, im shoving all hands(if possible) at 35-45% separate equity on BOTH boards..dont know if that is good or not..

Lots of games out there, not only PLO and NL. I would like to know as much as i can before i donk off too much:)

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The games are not raked, played 100-300BB deep. Dealers choice, so sitting out is not an option, just wanted some help on the maths or if you guys had any other thoughts. To simplify, lets assume it is only PLO on two boards.

One applicable consideration is from hilo, that one should not commit too much chips without a scoop possibility or a non-unique nut(as in nut straight for risk of 1/4) on one board only. This translates into situations where one folds top set on one board due to lack of viable hands on the other board..conversely the same hand can be played fast if one has the read that the person who is presumably playing the other board cant stand the heat..

In order to get some feedback, here is a scenario:

hero on button called PFR after a limper to get 3B from BB..PFR, limper and hero calls.

first flop KT4 rainbow
second flop 962 two hearts

lets say everybody is 300BB deep and all bets and raises are 70%-fullpot, BB bets pot, PFR raises, limper folds..

Hero KK75(bdfld)...does one shove here?
or
hero 99QTdoublesuited to the first flop...how about this one?
or
hero KT78hearts...

All of them are weird, as 3bettor skews to high-wrap with or without hearts, and the PRF is looking more weighted to the second flop..

I do have some notion how to play it, based mainly on player ranges, but have no empirical way to calculate equity and thus im left in lala-land..praying that im playing decent..

Any input much appreciated.

hi,
Thank you for these videos, I am having issues adjusting from PLO/PLO8 to 5-card PLO/PLO8, would love to see more. From the looks of things, HU plays pretty loose, im wondering how these games plays 3-6 handed, as i feel like im basically only playing the nuts/nutdraw/rags for 100-200bb deep.