spewBlocker
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Hi Disharmonist,
You don't think that people on plo20 tend to r/c A532ss type of hands often preflop? Ingame I had same exactly thoughts as you!
I've split the estimated range in PPT, please have a look:
In 50% of times we run into trips. Far away from "basically 0". If you estimate other anverage broking ranges in lowstakes plo, please share with us.
Regards
Aug. 30, 2016 | 10:21 a.m.
What about donk turn?
Aug. 28, 2016 | 9:53 p.m.
TT77r I like this combo the most because if I remember right, if we flop a set Tens, they'll be topset about half of all times.
Any set below Tens is mid-bottom set more than half of all times. Not having them at least single suited can put you in situations where you are an underdog with middle set vs monsterdraws. Now think about situations where you want to GII...
When we hit top set <=88 on most flops we face low connected cards and might run into straights or big wraps.
If we flop bottom set and just decide to calldown, third set can easily become fifth set on the river.
If we calldown and the board pairs, even top2pairs beat us although a boat could be one of the best scenarios, despite quads, but we know hitting a gutshot is easier.
Because of that I believe the gap between 8822r < 5577ss < TT77r is pretty large.
Aug. 27, 2016 | 11:01 p.m.
+1 fold preflop
Aug. 27, 2016 | 2:39 p.m.
The more I think about it the more I guess you're right. The only reason I see is that sometimes I see players pumping hands like KT76ds all in preflop multiway. I don't remember any read on specific villains though.
Nevertheless, I could be in same spots with AKKQ:ccdd, the problem would be the same.
Aug. 26, 2016 | 4:04 p.m.
Hey guys,
last time in my thread I had this hand as a 2nd one posted but since nobody replied I seperate it in an own thread.
Prima, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: $14.55 (72.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
MP: $17.32 (86.6 bb)
CO: $22.98 (114.9 bb)
BTN: $48.61 (243.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K
K
7 4
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.40, BTN calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80
Flop: ($7.20) 3 2 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ???
I thought that villains don't hold many 3s but actually I think this is false assumption. In fact, there are many A3**:xx combos I guess.
Yesterday I had a similar situation with Aces on a T3Tds flop and villain shoved JJ83 with fd. the difference besides players was that it was HU. So my actual idea on those flops are to b/f 3way, b/c HU, as long as I don't have any reads.
What do you guys think?
Regards
Aug. 26, 2016 | 9:13 a.m.
So do I understand this right: We bet/broke here because of the times villain simply folds this flop combined with the times we GII for 30%?
Aug. 23, 2016 | 4:03 p.m.
Hi Jimmy,
sorry but I'm not familiar with pokerjuice (yet). What's SOR please?
Aug. 23, 2016 | 12:04 p.m.
Hi guys,
last week I asked about this hand: http://www.runitonce.com/plo/akq6ss-broke-flop/
Where bet/broke seemed to be ok with TPTK on board with 2 suits and not too much connected. This week I got in trouble on rainbow and paired 2suited flops.
Prima, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: $20 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
MP: $21.76 (108.8 bb)
CO: $22.92 (114.6 bb)
BTN: $19 (95 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
K 4
MP folds, CO raises to $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.90, CO folds, BTN calls $2.20
Flop: ($6.60) 7 T 5 (2 players)
Hero ???
Looking at PPT things become worse than on a board with 2 sits and a possible NFD raising my cbet:
~30% is too less to bet/broke here. So my question is: Do you check/fold these type of flops? Do you checkraise them because you want his range to include single blockers? or is it ok to bet/fold, because if he just calls the hand goes along on the turn?
I have another type of hand with about 30% of equity where I ask myself what should be the best of all my options:
Prima, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: $14.55 (72.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
MP: $17.32 (86.6 bb)
CO: $22.98 (114.9 bb)
BTN: $48.61 (243.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K K 7 4
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.40, BTN calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80
Flop: ($7.20) 3 2 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ???
On this one I tend to b/fold because I can hardly see anyone holding a 3 but when I get checkraised it seems to be I'm pretty dead. My given PPT range is just not only about threes to show how bad thinghs are even when we add other combos into the range.
Regards
Aug. 23, 2016 | 9:53 a.m.
Hey Lagasaurus,
thx4reply. Do you x/f or b/f? Villain raised AhThT* btw
Aug. 19, 2016 | 8:45 a.m.
hey Cthulu23, gii=GetItIn?
Aug. 19, 2016 | 8:45 a.m.
Hey guys,
I just restarted playing PLO and things went fine for the first couple of hands. Now I'm starting to get better again. Last time I talked PLO was at deucescracked but the forums somehow ain't that active. This one seems to be a lot more active when it comes to PLO so lets go:
Villain is one of those fishy guys playing lots of weak hands. I think because of this my 3bet is fine. When it comes to the flop I decide to cbet as I block topset. After he raises I think of the following range:
If I think about this right I can't fold after my cbet. But if I plan to bet/broke I need ~44%. Anyone in here playing else or estimating another range here?
Prima, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
Hero (SB): $37.62 (188.1 bb)
BB: $20 (100 bb)
MP: $42.97 (214.9 bb)
CO: $21 (105 bb)
BTN: $20.90 (104.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 Q A K
MP folds, CO raises to $0.70, BTN folds, Hero raises to $2.30, BB folds, CO calls $1.60
Flop: ($4.80) K 4 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.40, CO raises to $15, Hero raises to $26.60, CO calls $3.70 and is all-in
Turn: ($42.20) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($42.20) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Hi tofurocks,
thanks for the PJ report. Again this tells me that it should be profitable overall to cbet those boards in 3bet pots because most of the times we take the pot down on flop.
On a raise we can GII because we get ~30% vs estimated brokerange of a villain.
I hope your %-based handranges are reasonable because I can hardly iamgine such a 30%-range in omaha (yet) :)
Regards
Aug. 30, 2016 | 10:29 a.m.