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looks like an excruciating flop fold to me

you pretty clearly overlook the scenario where u make your hand on the river and he check folds when he would have had stacks in on the turn when u jam. this will happen often on the 4 straight runnout

why do you think potting it would be the only sizing option? I think that is the worst possible raise size.

I'm gonna disagree with Phil and Sean; I think that the KJhh is a calldown in this situation. If we were OOP vs a good button I'd fold. Being OOP entices players to take overly aggressive lines given both ranges have so many showdownable but non-nutted hands.

A good OOP strategy is going to look something like, bet almost 100% on flop, then check some air, 99-AA, KJ-KT, and pr+fd on turn, while betting KQ+ (excluding KK-AA), any pair+ gutter, naked fd, and a few random AQ/AJ (noting we don't frequently hold the weakish draw portion). If OOP expects us to mostly call 88-QQ on turn and mostly fold the river he should follow through exploitably often in a vacuum/first encounter when we hold Kx as combinatorically midpairs for IP are quite likely compared to KJs KQs and random pre/post slowplayed hands. In addition, many aggro OOP players will tend to bet the turn even wider on these boards to avoid difficult situations/transfer their headache to you. Then they wouldn't even need to follow through so often for any Kx+ to be a call.

When we get 3b by button and call from CO (yes I realize this isn't default play for some but alternative plays make me cringe), BU is able to pot control some hands he might spew with OOP and get to flop with way more hands that connect with a mostly low board and cbet it. I wouldn't expect many but the most loose aggressive players to bink something on K7643 too often when they 3b SB v CO.

Lastly, as we get deeper than 100bb KJ certainly isnt going to be anywhere near the top of our range on this board. However, we should be playing pretty snug preflop with nothing over $500 to play here and I think the board hasn't really shifted much to IP player's favor at all, making top pair prettaaaay good.

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how could you possibly consider calling with or without the extra info? you have nothing. raise or fold flop.

why is jamming boats obv? how strong is our equity vs a reasonable river valuebetting range on the Qd/c or 8d/c? are you determined to frequently minraise-shove allin on brick rivers with the 95hh?

Thanks for posting the video on mp4 format.

oops i meant a8 not A9. But possibly they can have some Acxc combos too.

@35:19 Im wondering about the 25dd hand. Do you think that checking back our entire range on the ace card is ok, given that the ace hits them a decent amount? They should at least have A5, maybe A9 and possibly other combos of Ax a decent amount of the time. What do you think?

I see, so by that logic your turn betting range must be pretty close to 100% bluffs is that right? or do u just check all ur weak gutshots here on the turn aswell?

what air combos can donny have in the hand where u hero call 55 other than specifically what he has? why do you say you credibly rep Ax check calling turn, wouldnt u barrel it pretty much always on this runnout? if he thinks u dont have Ax why wouldnt he valuebet Jx? all the air (straight draws) have a pair or a straight now so feels like its tough for him to bluff, i guess like 98ss also

would be nice if everyone can upload it on mp4 so viewers have the option to watch it on ipad

pls upload it on mp4 so we can watch it on ipad

Sorry I didnt explain myself very organized about the BvB 3b range. My plan isnt to jam most of that range allin, I would just 5b jam suited wheel aces if it was a good spot for it. I just wanted to say that I felt like that range of hands wasnt that polarized at least ddint feel like that, but I could be off obviously and it needs to have more combos of qjo k10o a10 type of hands.

I agree that he wants to be able to attack this sort of flop hu since ur going to be cbetting any pair and alot of ur air range with the intention to barrel alot of turns. That being said I really dont think he needs to have 97 in his raise calling range since there is plenty of 8x type of hands and maybe slowplayed overpairs and better hands he can play this way.I mean we do need some sort of calling range here on the flop.

P.S. I laugh my ass off every time when u mention a suited connector and how sexy it is, like almost if u had an emotional attachment to the hands, which u obviously dont once one reads ur responses in the thread here.:)
Thanks for getting back so fast and in detail. GL and see u at the tables in 2013.

Hey one last more broad thing. Is 6max tougher than fullring, since I know u play both and Im thinking about adding the fullring tables to my volume, it just offers more games at 400 600.

I wasnt necessarily saying we should 3b all junk, like i wouldnt feel uncomfortable 3btting kq aj for example, which I would feel more comfortable calling a 4b against or jamming. I would nt ever 5b jam 8high, since like u said it has terrible equity and it is absolutely unneccessary. I mean hands like 88+ aj+ kq+ some wheel aces (suited and offsuit) some suited junk .Wouldnt u feel like that sort of range is playable enough?

Also what do u think about his move, I find it really questionnable by him to raise calll it off with 9 high.

49.52 table 5: I remember in a previous video u had been saying that players dont just jam over raises in 3b pots anymore, but alot of the time are going to be clickin it back, or calling rather than jamming. I mite be mistaking obviously, Im not 100% sure it was u. That being said wouldnt u like just making it 150 or so to his raise and be able to cib bluff in that same spot in future without having to risk ur entire stack.

min 38 table 3: k10o BvB u 3b k10o . And ur planning to fold to a 4bet, my question is why do u wanna 3b a hand like k10o which is defiinitely a profitable flat ip vs his sb stealing range.Wouldnt u prefer 3btting hands that were a bit weaker and then hands that u can 5b jam better and maybe even flat to a 4b IP?

min 36: table 3 : k10cc hand. Do u have a check calling range there as well, and do u have a cbetting range. Cos when u start check raising , I mean u need to worry about ur betting range in those spots and ur check calling range, it seems to me that having all 3 is going to be hard to balanced effectively. So is that a texture that u in general like to ch r or ch c , or do u just randomly make these moves based on ur hand?

min 36. table 4 U flat j9cc to a mp open, is this a std flat for u? arent u worried about having too weak of a flatting range and being dominated too much and sqzed on too much for this to be a standard flat. How low would u go as far as suited connectors go?
How do u treat hands like Ajo KQo KJo A10o in the same situation. Also would u flat those weaker suited broadways in mp as well ?

could u make a video on pokerstars or fulltilt? If im not mistaking this was played on an italian skin, where the level of 1k is comparable to nl50 from what ive heard. I think dynamics would be much more applyable if u made a video against more competent regulars on a regular site.I mean u can always hide ur screename if ur worried about that, I dont really care what it is, but more so about the content.

Very nice looking forward to that, I also agree that making the audio post session is the best way to go.
gl

Sounds good!!!
Are u ever gonna make a video review of one of ur sessions, or a live play video?

Sorry I mispelled regarding the A10hh hand. However, Wow, aprreciate the time u take for this replies man, makes me feel bad about potentially coming off a bit douchey in the thread before.
Ok so the way I see it alot of people talk about balance, gto, but very rarely u will see them actually play their ranges on the different board textures rather than their actual holding.SO what I wanna know is if u have that sort of gameplan or if u rather focus on mixing up ur line with similar hands on the similar board textures. I mean to sum it up I dont think there's enough videos out there that talk about how u treat ur range in certain spots rather than ur hand. Finally if u think that it is better to not treat it that way in game , but rather play it based on the holding, then u should obviously continue making those.
I think u got a pretty good idea of it in ur reply.

Thanks for taking such interest , very appreciated and refreshing.

I was refering to the 98 hand and the ak hand. I feel u ,sorry if it came across harsh, u have been puttin alot of effort into ur responses in this thread, so i definitely appreciate that, but the frustration is more coming from me knowing how good of a player u are, and how much insight one can get from this.
If i could add one more thing, I think u should try to pick out hands where u dont use a vacuum line, because those unique spots, even though they can be interesting to analyze dont occur as often as other spots. So I would really be interested to know how u would play ur range on certain board textures rather than how u choose to play a hand in a vacuum. I assume a player at ur level is aware of different gameplans for different board textures. I think this is where most people struggle in terms of checking ranges on the turn or river or flop , or even constructing entire ranges.
Didnt mean to go on this rant, but I hope u get some of my points and may consider it as some useful input for ur future vids.
thx in advance.