rogueserpent

Dang, half your stack in and call the river. That's scared money although you have valid points. Im betting everything on that flop, but Jacks, and I would bet that a high percentage of the time.

He's betting everything on that flop but jacks and the occasional AA and KK holding a club, but I mean thats a once in a blue moon a check behind. Tough " call. "

I feel you were beat here, obviously and a cbet here is situational. 

I really can't believe that you're actually being exploited at this level, outside if someone you play with all day, everyday. 

A/A is a pair on that river, and you're not committed to a sixty big blind river call. 

He may have actually put you on an over pair and hoped you called the donkey all in. You did, that's exploitation as well. 

7,7 means he didn't believe you or is just really bad. It's low stakes so beats like this are going to happen. But, in the long run you'll make money on his flop and turn call. 

My general low stakes raise pre rule is... If you can't fold a big hand post flop, you better be raising bigger pre flop.

When he called that pot sized turn, you were in trouble...

Them being fishy is more of a reason for him to have fishy cards... He could show up here with A, 7 or 2 with just a single spade. Horrible board for your hand, I would have been in read mode and damage control...

I'm assuming he had a set, 10-10 FTR

I'm folding pre a lot, flop a lot, and I'm not seeing turn and river... After I donk either of those streets, I'm seeing show down with my Ace, because I'm obviously tilted or I have a read telling me this guy is full of BS. 

Hand one...

I hope he had J/8d or Ax of diamonds... I'm not sure I like the lead out all in, but it was only pot sized. Did you have a live read, was he looking for a diamond? You played it fine besides the possible check, call river.... Which would have played the same way probably,, him putting you all in. One, two players aren't folders, there isn't much you can do but play strong and hope to hold rivers.

Hand two...

He had Kings or he trapped you with a bigger hand. Sometimes pot control is in order for tight conservative players that are looking to absorb bullets. They have something, obviously. You raising from the blind allowed him to put his vest on and let you do all the work. He played the player as well, according to your description of your own table image. He's not calling three streets with Jacks or worse unless he doesn't believe you. You have to adjust vs these players and make a read.

I know a lot of people call there so I'm just saying, it's a fold for me, when I'm being conservative. Unless, I know I can outplay the players in the hand and it sounds like you were playing two people that can't be outplayed.

It's a shove vs two loose players, one of which is all in. The donkey that raised you is never folding...

I'm not sure you had GOOD ODDS TO CALL pre. . Everyone folded to the cut off, who had no stack. I know the button called but I would have probably waited for a better spot vs the two of them, one that especially involved position. 

Either you're a huge fan of the volleyball seen in Top Gun, or, I hope, you're talking about yourself! :-)

I see weak players just call there all the time.

Paul, at the 34 minute mark how did you fold the 6,6 in the SB to the min raise pre? I realize it was vs a rock, but you dont want to take a flop there at the discount and hope to flop a 6?