Robbiish
170 points
Standard stackoff ott. He can have worse valuejams like QQ AJ so it's not very close.
check-jam turn is a decent option aswell, especially if he stabs wide.
Nov. 24, 2021 | 1:05 p.m.
'' I put him on something like A3ss and thought I had a great opportunity to catch a bluff''
Be careful with putting your opponents on just one hand. You play against a range of hands, bluffs and valuebets, is he more likely to be valueheavy or bluffheavy? Or don't you know him that well do make assumptions?
You basically have a clear bluffcatcher and you want to focus on if he's bluffing enough/too much or not enough, then you know if you can call or not. The blockers are not superimportant here, he's repping all sorts of 2pair and 57 etc, and potential all sorts of bluff if he's crazy. If TT have good blockers i dont think matters, espeically not in a ''spewy live game''.
TT is atleast better than some lower pair because you shouldnt loose to a random pair bluff, so if he bluffs you should be good.
''Against unknown villain, typical player at this place is pretty loose.''
I wouldnt read too much into this and say that this guy is loose aswell. Also there is a big difference on beeing loose and beeing spewy postflop in my opinion. There are people vpping 70% live, but just checkraising with value for example.
I don't know anything about the game so it's hard for me to say. If players in the game are randomly raising pairs and barreling as bluffs i would just bluffcatch and not fold many bluffcatchers in such game :P
Nov. 23, 2021 | 5:06 p.m.
I would normally fold. And as BigFiszh said, turn is allready pretty cloose, even tho his sizing isnt big you will likely get barreld alot of rivers and have to fold, and not much implied odds on a 7/T tbh.
If you have the read he's super spazzy it quickly becomes a +ev call tho ^^
Nov. 22, 2021 | 8:54 p.m.
GG wp, i think you played it great. I would just fold river quicker ;)
Like RaoulFlush said, what do we expect him to bluff here? He basically need to play every AQ combo like that+AJs, and turn into bluff every single time otr to come up with enough bluffs. Very easy for him to have TK,TQ,TT,JT, ATs,9Ts- it's alot of valuecombos he always will play this way.
In best case we breakeven if he somehow turns everything into a bluff and float enough, in more likely case its very bad to call.
Nov. 18, 2021 | 3:23 p.m.
Great SB winrate, if it works over big sample i would not change it.
You need a very big sample for this to look into indivdual positions i belive. I checked my last 100k hands(15k hands in sb and 15k bb) I was loosing at -11bb/100 in BB and -33bb/100 in smallblind. Wich is obviously not my true winrate per position.
If i check that sample i was running very good in big pots from BB and bad in the big pots from SB.
Im not sure how big sample is needed, probably 500k+?
You're overall bb/100 can give you a hint after 100k hands tho, so you can still work on alot of things and do analysis with that sample! But winrate/position should be very sensible too sample and variance.
Nov. 18, 2021 | 3:09 p.m.
Plenty off good MTTs coaches on rio.
This is some things that helped me, im also from a cg background.
- Learn ranges/preflop- alot of stuff going on and ranges changes depending on stackdepths-
- Study shallow SPR postflop spots
- icm
I think that's a good start, you're probably doing well in the early stages and struggling when stacks get shallow if you are used to deepstack cg.
Nov. 17, 2021 | 2:51 p.m.
Too thin. Probably TT+ is required.
Important to notice that he's raising 66% cbet, thats way different than if you go 30%sizing, then he should merge more 9x. Now you're looking more at A9+ for value in his shoes, so his range is more polarized vs your size.
Nov. 17, 2021 | 2:42 p.m.
Probably call? Use equilab, put his range vs your hand and check your equity. Then compare it to your pottodds ;)
Nov. 17, 2021 | 2:29 p.m.
Looks well played. I would not find the high freq bet with QK ott, intresting, it dosent feel strong enough intuitivley for me.
It's also cool that pio likes to play 2 streets,(pot flop,jam turns) with a decent part of the range if we allow it too. Whats your thoughts on that? Qing Yang
Nov. 16, 2021 | 8:49 p.m.
Your question confuses me a little :P.
It looks like you figured it out yourself, JQ+ is simply worth alot more than you think. It's common to undervalue toppairs here i think for 6max players because ranges are so wide and toppair becomes very strong. It important that you have bigbets, especially here once he checked twice, your hand is basically good 90%+ and you have bunch of bluffs.
how should the bet size depend on the board structure?
Im not sure what you mean, on this specific board it makes sense to be more polarized., we dont have a bunch of thin valuebets so build it more around jx+
On boards like 357 or random 3 lowcard board its much more smallbets for thin value etc.
On flop like QK5r, its even more polarized again.
Nov. 15, 2021 | 4:19 p.m.
Tricky spot..
We crush him with the big overpairs, but we also have more broadways that bricks this flop and don't turn any straightdraws.. That leans me toward not rangebetting, but still probably betting 60%-70% of my range.
I assume his range is more concentrated around PPs, 66-99 looks like hands he will always call pre and always call squueze with. He also have some AQo, AJs ATs/78s i guess, but they are squuezing more often PF.
That said i dont love this flop slightly deeper, but im probably not going anywhere with JJ+ any time soon.
Flop bet or check is fine, i lean towards xr AA-KK more(need less protection) And they are like same strength because he never have QQ-JJ.
Turn ehm, not sure. IF it was not a squueze spot, like normal sb vs btn 3bpot ranges, you're kinda happy shipping for value/protection etc.
Now when his range is more concentrated around 66-TT and les 56s 78s etc it gets messy, especially with the slightly deeper stacks.
It feels like a ''overplay'' but i would probably do the same ingame because it's the easy play with JJ, we are oop etc and it cant be that bad right. However i think check or block is the best play :o
Nov. 15, 2021 | 1:42 a.m.
No easy quick fix.. i can give some hints
Play aggro- bluff more- attack check lines
valuebet thinner
don't overfold in common spots, like folding vs cbets- or vs probes i think will hurt redline alot because its a super common spot.
It could be because of poor blind play, your redline will loose in BB and SB always. And should go up from all other positions. Either loosing to much in sb/bb or not winning enough from other positions.
To really get it skyrocketing i guess we have to play very exploitable, overbluff correctly in spots people don't defend enough and overdefend in spots people bluff too often. But easier said than done
Nov. 15, 2021 | 1:14 a.m.
If you are sure they are only 4betting KK-AA, mixing AK-QQ, and have 0 bluffs, at that point you can do some drastic exploits and probably fold huge part of your 3b range and just shove kk-aa. But that's some big assumptions wich i would be very carefull making, it's more likely you are just running bad in these spots and maybe forgetting the times you 5b and win the pot because they fold pre(thats a big win). check database, 5b success and make sure you're not just result oriented or overvalueing AK. Once you get called, you basically flip or are slightly behind.
Oct. 26, 2021 | 6:43 p.m.
It has to to with the 3card straight turn. If you put a brick on KTx you Will se se much larger size and checka used mainly. If the board K83Q aswell. But on any 3 straight turn sizing smaller is mostly used.
Same concept IP in srp
Aug. 18, 2021 | 1:27 p.m.
Yeah you're right. More defending and less 4betting IP deeper, you want to keep SPR higher and play more streets especially deeper. One pair hands becomes ''weaker'' like stacking of an overpair can never be a bad thing at 100bb, but it defently can be a blunder at 200-300bb deep depending on the spot.
From what i've seen in sims, OOP is forced to play a more passive postflop strat deeper, checking at higher frequency on the whole compared to 100bb. Makes sense, because we are more scared of running into nutted hands and position is more valueable. At 100bb, you can 3bet oop and just bet flop big,jam turn, or xjam turn etc.
Aug. 1, 2021 | 2:40 p.m.
Totally agree with DNegs98
And Indeed very important to be ready to blast of, so we make 8x+ hate life.
I would be abit carefull assuming regs overcb this type of board tho, think most regs realize 3 low cards is Pretty Damn bad for sb. The Value of overpairs goes down A lot, any 5/6/9/T brings even more straights.
But at lower stakes, i think its a Pretty cool line if people just look at their hand, pair ok lets bet something, and are not used to getting rr/barrreld alot, Indeed you could Run them over of That’s the case.
July 24, 2021 | midnight
Would be easier if you explained more, like What limit you play, are you winning or not etc.
There is alot of decent/good free material on youtube, you can watch rio videos etc and see how good players Play/think.
I would recommend
* start with the common spots, and learn in decent. Preflop for example, get a decent grasp(no Need to be perfect)
* then go to common postflop spots, cbetting strategies. Then turn river play etc.
Getting a solver would be good if you want to learn more about GTO, i wouldnt say its mandatory if you look to play lowstakes only, But otherwise i think it is. Should also make you better quicker.
Getting a coach is very good if you can afford it. They can Hopefully point out exactly Where you struggle so you can plug leaks quicker and focus on Whats most important for you specifically right now.
July 23, 2021 | 11:38 p.m.
Pretty complicated turn. I prefer to put all my range into 50/75% sizing whatever you prefer. So we can still bet some sets, straights etc.
I dont totally agree that we should always be aiming to polarize With nuts/nut blockers yet OTT. Many good things can happen by you bettting a smaller size to, you force him to find bluffs raises, you will still get raised from alot of K/Qhigh flushes so you dont loose value against other flushes while still protecting your more marginal valuebets by having them in the same sizing.
On the river: after picking a smaller bet, i would have multiple sizings, and big overbet jam would be fine with nutflushes and some nutblockers indeed.
July 23, 2021 | 11:27 p.m.
Agree with RaoulFlush
In theory i think it's a pure/high frequency xb. But in practice i think he have alot of 88-JJ, so unless he is a station i would think about bluffing this. 22-66 would be bluffed more because you loose to the occasional 66-77. And that's the reason 77 will mostly take the SDev in theory.
A more obvious example: TT would never bluff, but 22 would almost always bluff. 77 is in the middle. So having a read on your opponent could be worth alot.
Feb. 17, 2021 | 4:35 p.m.
Too assumptive for me to start folding AK here. Basically only repping 77 and maybe 1 combo 33. There is still some Fd he can do this with and also AK, maybe AQ if he is bad.
Feb. 15, 2021 | 8:59 p.m.
I dont like xr 4way in a limped pot, They are likely sticky players and They have a bunch of suited trash wich will cooler you, so rather go with bigger fds and be very valueheavy/ use strong draws because your value dont come from making them make big folds.
Otr your combo is Pretty good to go for it, but your likely up against very sticky players who especially hate folding pairs when all draws bricks. Its still cloose, because the have so many busted better draws and TJo maybe.
Feb. 15, 2021 | 12:33 a.m.
I prefer checkback turn and potentially bluffcatch rivers. If you want to ramp up the aggression just go very intense with your straight draws and barrel them. Even some very low equity stuff could barrel if you think your opponents are overfolding.
Feb. 14, 2021 | 6:55 p.m.
Consider hiring a coach if you can afford it.
Would also recommend lucidgto if you want to get more into GTO. Or consider transition into PLO ;)
Feb. 5, 2021 | 7:34 p.m.
nh, i would be much more inclined to barrel A5 on turns above T-> to put alot of pressure on his middling pairs wich should fold alot. On the 88, he gets there with 67s, 88, 8Ts and hands like 78s 66,77 got decent equity.
I look to check because of that, calling turn is fine, but im not thrilled calling Q river when some of his bluffs connect and its hard for him to find air. If the river is a brick it makes sense to herocall.
Feb. 4, 2021 | 6:22 p.m.
NH.
I prefer to call hands like AA,KK,JJ,AJ.
QQ is just more important to get in and protect it's equity against hands like KTdd ATdd,QK and stacking AJ KJ before the board gets terrible.
You're sometimes loosing to sets here but thats supposed to happen, you just go broke with QQ here all the time BTN vs CO if he got you beat, np nh.
Feb. 4, 2021 | 6:14 p.m.
maco yeah it’s Pretty hard to know his range, if we know He’s defending low pairs and all sorts of broadways in This spot it becomes much more cbetted. Taking notes at showdowns is Pretty helpfull.
If he have very low fold to sqz/3bet you are doing better, if he folds much you’re in More trouble here..
Feb. 4, 2021 | 6:04 p.m.
Tricky one.
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I would say flop is better for him, he lacks QQ+. But his range is likely very heavy around 88-99 AQ and Maybe some suited broadways. Against a big squueze he shouldn’t have many low pairs, They shouldnt call 3bb rfi to begin if he’s playing good.
I would do alot of checking because of that, biggest reason that 88/99 is such a part of his range.
Ott its dicey, i get the idea behind jamming to deny equity from pair+draws. But you are obviously getting snapped by 88/99/AQ alot. It feels like putting in abit too much bbs in the pot, it’s a though board.
Feb. 4, 2021 | 5:39 a.m.
Inaprropriate thread
If you think his range is just 2pairs and flushes you should obviously snapfold. I do think he can have QKo, TQ-Q9, AT,A9,KT,K9, even some bare AcXo, and you cant really assume he would never bluff them for 50% sizing, because some peoples logic is to bluff small(fold out trash and have good price on bluff) Other people have logic to bluff big and look strong, fold out better hands.
I would lean towards call, but i think mixing in some xjams is good too.
Dec. 8, 2021 | 1:42 p.m.