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I find first hand J8 TP intresting. In terms of theory his bluffcatcher seems to be the single worst 1 pair combo he can call with losing -0.5bb, compared to K6/46s/33 or whatever that have less interaction with IP bluffs and are around 0Ev. Cool that you went for the overbet with a weak kicker and get called by a hand that ''should'' never be called in theory.
I feel like alot of people who are in the MDA mindset, that like to defend wide in wide range spots will massively overdefend here with their range.

You agree? More clear example if we look at runouts like J9623 where all our obvious air bricks, i se them massively overdefend 67 77-88-TT etc. How do you recommend exploiting tendencies?

Good video,

At 9.25 Q8s BBvSB on 893ss43 facing xx, bet75%, b75% : Suprisingly solver is folding 50% of it's 8x vs this line, if we checkback enough 9x otf, also mixing some bluffjams with a few 4x,8x,9x. I would also assume it's a pure call! Thoughts on this? Exploitatively i guess we can say it's very easy to overbluff random hands in wide formation. But i also feel like many regs recognize this spot is known to be percived overbluffed so they actually play very carefully with their air after we call big size turn delay.

Great stuff!

I am not saying you should fanboy him - I am saying you should try to understand why he is doing it. If its just a "tilt play" then why even cover the hand? We dont really learn anything from it, do we? I dont understand why we aren't covering hands that start from the beginning so we can actually follow the action and hands that we can learn something from?

Tyler Forrester 1. hand, i find it a very "weak" to just label Matt Marinellis exploitive size to a "tilt play". Mat is arguably a better player than you, he is sitting basically the two best cash players in the world and instead of trrying to understand why one of the best in the world is doing something, you just label it as "bad". Not sure if that is what i am wanna see from an elite coach, i can just rewatch Hands myself then...
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Obsiouly Marinellis is up to something, he knows this size is not highest EV - but maybe vs Linus yes? Maybe he knows LLinus is a fucking station and never folds - why not going to 16bb pre then? We can always learn from other peoples ideas, even if they are -EV, theres a reason behind it. Never say this is bad, this is good in poker, poker is much more complex-. i am indeed sad that i need to mention that here while paying 199$ / month....

not to mention, GTO Wizard plays 14bb 3b size when 125bb deep, when reaching 150bb the preferred size is actually 16bb at NL10k....cant be as bad as you think.

You also mention that AA wants to rather 3b the smaller size, while other pp like JJ fits more the big size (if you split). I am not sure about this one, because the bigger the size the more polar it is... Further, AA benefits a lot by putting many $$$ into the pot pre, as its pre the best hand and its equity drops basically on any flop....

In the K789 hand, you say you assume the x/jam by barak is probably some kind of blunder, in my SIM on wizard it 1. x/jams 20% of its range ott (quite a bit..) and 2. his hand (65s) is a pure x/jam - well played, i guess?
I might be harsh but honestly it tilts me quite a bit. I am paying 199$ / month, 2.4k / year so that i can hear "elite coaches" yapping about how bad worldbest cash players play, how they blunder without actually explaining why you think they blunder. We are watching hands, starting on the river, not even knowing what happend on the streets before? How can we analyze such hand, let alone learn from it? Honestly, it showing you little effort you gave to prepare this video.

RIO unsubbed, wont come back unless this site makes some serious changes. Every GTO Wizard free YT Vid has more value than those "elite" videos here (besides Luke Johnson's Videos)....

I think the reason we don't overbet Ax here is because removal effects and we want to still be able to bet some TT-9x etc for value. If we overbet we isolate BB towards trips+ and pair+fd. So we gain EV from Ax before bad river, but even on a brick river after b150% we cant 3 barrel all the time because how many boats BB will have.

If we b50-75% turn miss some EV that we had from weaker Ax for b150% before a bad river arrives, but we also got value instead from alot more 9x,7x etc so that offsets the missed value from Ax.

If you think his range is just 2pairs and flushes you should obviously snapfold. I do think he can have QKo, TQ-Q9, AT,A9,KT,K9, even some bare AcXo, and you cant really assume he would never bluff them for 50% sizing, because some peoples logic is to bluff small(fold out trash and have good price on bluff) Other people have logic to bluff big and look strong, fold out better hands.
I would lean towards call, but i think mixing in some xjams is good too.

Standard stackoff ott. He can have worse valuejams like QQ AJ so it's not very close.
check-jam turn is a decent option aswell, especially if he stabs wide.

'' I put him on something like A3ss and thought I had a great opportunity to catch a bluff''
Be careful with putting your opponents on just one hand. You play against a range of hands, bluffs and valuebets, is he more likely to be valueheavy or bluffheavy? Or don't you know him that well do make assumptions?

You basically have a clear bluffcatcher and you want to focus on if he's bluffing enough/too much or not enough, then you know if you can call or not. The blockers are not superimportant here, he's repping all sorts of 2pair and 57 etc, and potential all sorts of bluff if he's crazy. If TT have good blockers i dont think matters, espeically not in a ''spewy live game''.
TT is atleast better than some lower pair because you shouldnt loose to a random pair bluff, so if he bluffs you should be good.

''Against unknown villain, typical player at this place is pretty loose.''

I wouldnt read too much into this and say that this guy is loose aswell. Also there is a big difference on beeing loose and beeing spewy postflop in my opinion. There are people vpping 70% live, but just checkraising with value for example.

I don't know anything about the game so it's hard for me to say. If players in the game are randomly raising pairs and barreling as bluffs i would just bluffcatch and not fold many bluffcatchers in such game :P

I would normally fold. And as BigFiszh said, turn is allready pretty cloose, even tho his sizing isnt big you will likely get barreld alot of rivers and have to fold, and not much implied odds on a 7/T tbh.
If you have the read he's super spazzy it quickly becomes a +ev call tho ^^

GG wp, i think you played it great. I would just fold river quicker ;)
Like RaoulFlush said, what do we expect him to bluff here? He basically need to play every AQ combo like that+AJs, and turn into bluff every single time otr to come up with enough bluffs. Very easy for him to have TK,TQ,TT,JT, ATs,9Ts- it's alot of valuecombos he always will play this way.
In best case we breakeven if he somehow turns everything into a bluff and float enough, in more likely case its very bad to call.

Great SB winrate, if it works over big sample i would not change it.
You need a very big sample for this to look into indivdual positions i belive. I checked my last 100k hands(15k hands in sb and 15k bb) I was loosing at -11bb/100 in BB and -33bb/100 in smallblind. Wich is obviously not my true winrate per position.
If i check that sample i was running very good in big pots from BB and bad in the big pots from SB.
Im not sure how big sample is needed, probably 500k+?

You're overall bb/100 can give you a hint after 100k hands tho, so you can still work on alot of things and do analysis with that sample! But winrate/position should be very sensible too sample and variance.

Plenty off good MTTs coaches on rio.
This is some things that helped me, im also from a cg background.

1. Learn ranges/preflop- alot of stuff going on and ranges changes depending on stackdepths-
2. Study shallow SPR postflop spots
3. icm

I think that's a good start, you're probably doing well in the early stages and struggling when stacks get shallow if you are used to deepstack cg.

Too thin. Probably TT+ is required.
Important to notice that he's raising 66% cbet, thats way different than if you go 30%sizing, then he should merge more 9x. Now you're looking more at A9+ for value in his shoes, so his range is more polarized vs your size.

Probably call? Use equilab, put his range vs your hand and check your equity. Then compare it to your pottodds ;)

Looks well played. I would not find the high freq bet with QK ott, intresting, it dosent feel strong enough intuitivley for me.

It's also cool that pio likes to play 2 streets,(pot flop,jam turns) with a decent part of the range if we allow it too. Whats your thoughts on that? Qing Yang

Your question confuses me a little :P.
It looks like you figured it out yourself, JQ+ is simply worth alot more than you think. It's common to undervalue toppairs here i think for 6max players because ranges are so wide and toppair becomes very strong. It important that you have bigbets, especially here once he checked twice, your hand is basically good 90%+ and you have bunch of bluffs.

how should the bet size depend on the board structure?

Im not sure what you mean, on this specific board it makes sense to be more polarized., we dont have a bunch of thin valuebets so build it more around jx+

On boards like 357 or random 3 lowcard board its much more smallbets for thin value etc.

On flop like QK5r, its even more polarized again.

Tricky spot..
We crush him with the big overpairs, but we also have more broadways that bricks this flop and don't turn any straightdraws.. That leans me toward not rangebetting, but still probably betting 60%-70% of my range.
I assume his range is more concentrated around PPs, 66-99 looks like hands he will always call pre and always call squueze with. He also have some AQo, AJs ATs/78s i guess, but they are squuezing more often PF.
That said i dont love this flop slightly deeper, but im probably not going anywhere with JJ+ any time soon.
Flop bet or check is fine, i lean towards xr AA-KK more(need less protection) And they are like same strength because he never have QQ-JJ.

Turn ehm, not sure. IF it was not a squueze spot, like normal sb vs btn 3bpot ranges, you're kinda happy shipping for value/protection etc.
Now when his range is more concentrated around 66-TT and les 56s 78s etc it gets messy, especially with the slightly deeper stacks.
It feels like a ''overplay'' but i would probably do the same ingame because it's the easy play with JJ, we are oop etc and it cant be that bad right. However i think check or block is the best play :o

No easy quick fix.. i can give some hints
Play aggro- bluff more- attack check lines
valuebet thinner
don't overfold in common spots, like folding vs cbets- or vs probes i think will hurt redline alot because its a super common spot.

It could be because of poor blind play, your redline will loose in BB and SB always. And should go up from all other positions. Either loosing to much in sb/bb or not winning enough from other positions.

To really get it skyrocketing i guess we have to play very exploitable, overbluff correctly in spots people don't defend enough and overdefend in spots people bluff too often. But easier said than done

If you are sure they are only 4betting KK-AA, mixing AK-QQ, and have 0 bluffs, at that point you can do some drastic exploits and probably fold huge part of your 3b range and just shove kk-aa. But that's some big assumptions wich i would be very carefull making, it's more likely you are just running bad in these spots and maybe forgetting the times you 5b and win the pot because they fold pre(thats a big win). check database, 5b success and make sure you're not just result oriented or overvalueing AK. Once you get called, you basically flip or are slightly behind.

It has to to with the 3card straight turn. If you put a brick on KTx you Will se se much larger size and checka used mainly. If the board K83Q aswell. But on any 3 straight turn sizing smaller is mostly used.
Same concept IP in srp

Yeah you're right. More defending and less 4betting IP deeper, you want to keep SPR higher and play more streets especially deeper. One pair hands becomes ''weaker'' like stacking of an overpair can never be a bad thing at 100bb, but it defently can be a blunder at 200-300bb deep depending on the spot.

From what i've seen in sims, OOP is forced to play a more passive postflop strat deeper, checking at higher frequency on the whole compared to 100bb. Makes sense, because we are more scared of running into nutted hands and position is more valueable. At 100bb, you can 3bet oop and just bet flop big,jam turn, or xjam turn etc.

Totally agree with DNegs98
And Indeed very important to be ready to blast of, so we make 8x+ hate life.
I would be abit carefull assuming regs overcb this type of board tho, think most regs realize 3 low cards is Pretty Damn bad for sb. The Value of overpairs goes down A lot, any 5/6/9/T brings even more straights.

But at lower stakes, i think its a Pretty cool line if people just look at their hand, pair ok lets bet something, and are not used to getting rr/barrreld alot, Indeed you could Run them over of That’s the case.

Would be easier if you explained more, like What limit you play, are you winning or not etc.

There is alot of decent/good free material on youtube, you can watch rio videos etc and see how good players Play/think.
I would recommend
* start with the common spots, and learn in decent. Preflop for example, get a decent grasp(no Need to be perfect)
* then go to common postflop spots, cbetting strategies. Then turn river play etc.

Getting a solver would be good if you want to learn more about GTO, i wouldnt say its mandatory if you look to play lowstakes only, But otherwise i think it is. Should also make you better quicker.

Getting a coach is very good if you can afford it. They can Hopefully point out exactly Where you struggle so you can plug leaks quicker and focus on Whats most important for you specifically right now.

Pretty complicated turn. I prefer to put all my range into 50/75% sizing whatever you prefer. So we can still bet some sets, straights etc.
I dont totally agree that we should always be aiming to polarize With nuts/nut blockers yet OTT. Many good things can happen by you bettting a smaller size to, you force him to find bluffs raises, you will still get raised from alot of K/Qhigh flushes so you dont loose value against other flushes while still protecting your more marginal valuebets by having them in the same sizing.

On the river: after picking a smaller bet, i would have multiple sizings, and big overbet jam would be fine with nutflushes and some nutblockers indeed.

Looks abit spewy, i think AcKd is better if we want to have jams with some AK(not sure) because then we can get it in good sometimes vs AQ:AJAt dd.
But generally we want to surrender vs this sizing and this positions

Agree with RaoulFlush
In theory i think it's a pure/high frequency xb. But in practice i think he have alot of 88-JJ, so unless he is a station i would think about bluffing this. 22-66 would be bluffed more because you loose to the occasional 66-77. And that's the reason 77 will mostly take the SDev in theory.
A more obvious example: TT would never bluff, but 22 would almost always bluff. 77 is in the middle. So having a read on your opponent could be worth alot.

Too assumptive for me to start folding AK here. Basically only repping 77 and maybe 1 combo 33. There is still some Fd he can do this with and also AK, maybe AQ if he is bad.

I dont like xr 4way in a limped pot, They are likely sticky players and They have a bunch of suited trash wich will cooler you, so rather go with bigger fds and be very valueheavy/ use strong draws because your value dont come from making them make big folds.

Otr your combo is Pretty good to go for it, but your likely up against very sticky players who especially hate folding pairs when all draws bricks. Its still cloose, because the have so many busted better draws and TJo maybe.

I prefer checkback turn and potentially bluffcatch rivers. If you want to ramp up the aggression just go very intense with your straight draws and barrel them. Even some very low equity stuff could barrel if you think your opponents are overfolding.