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plop85

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I think one way too see this spot is to analyze your database for this exact line.

"I had a sample of hands 2k+ and villain never check raises the turn with a combo draw" after this statement I think you have an easy fold because
1) This spot comes with a such a low frequency that folding here should not impact your WR at all

2) V has a very easy + ev cbet with his range, even for a passive-type strategy. Not sure why would he xR bluff for 82 BBs when he can bet for a lot less.

3) Youre using a big size OTT which make him more likely to think you have a very strong hand like 2p+ and a bid draw and youre less likely to fold to a raise. I think he is exploiting the population tendencies of calling too much in these spots vs a xR.

4) "Part of my thinking process was that he was trapping me with that short stacked BB, and he had a plan to get my whole stack, and he could only do that if he x/r the turn." This is a good statement because youre taking in consideration human factor, a factor that is less and less used these days. All I see is "Solver X wouldnt do action Y here", excluding all human emotions right from the start of the thought process. People tending to play like machines that other people created and never deviate from its strategies - this just not feels right from the human point of view :)

Some other things to mention :

1) You can view this spot by database analysis. Alias all regs -> filter this spot (vs tight-passive strategies) -> see results.

2) You`re putting a lot of enery analyzing a hand which happened once in 2000K hands, Why ? There are other spots which occur with very high frequency and can have a huge impact on your WR.

Nov. 6, 2016 | 6:59 a.m.

Hello guys. I started grinding MTTs at an avg BI of 20$/E on multiple european sites and I was curious if this BRM strategy I came up with is any good or if you think I should make any adjustments to it.
First of all my poker strategy is to grind a game with little variance and make constant profit witch I use to buyin directly to the biggest tournaments available. I used this successfully a couple of years ago grinding 3+R on stars and manage to make like 2.3K in one week and bought in to multiple MTTs and got lucky enough to take 2nd one of them for 20K.
Afterwards I started learning cash games witch I played for about one and a half years where I managed to break even for ~600K hands and spent my poker bankroll on lifetime needs.
I start now with a 10K bankroll (poker+life) and I came up with this strategy for grinding+BRM.
* I grind avg BI 20$/E BI on multiple european sites, selecting only the ones that start deep stacked and have more than 10 minutes blind levels and avg players ~150.
* I grind big 5 and phase 1 on stars that are higher variance. Phase 1 starts with a deeper stack and making the phase 2 equals to mincashing so I think it is a very good choice.
* I invest 2.5% of my total BR in playing + cashing out : 230 in tournament Buyins + 8% of them for daily cashout = 18.5$ = 248.5$.
* I assumed an ROI of 40% in them. Ill be playing around 22 days per week with around 2.000$ profit and 400$ for monthly lifetime expenses. * I want to use the whole profit to directly buyin every week to Sunday warm-up and Sunday million for a chance to score very big.
* I want to keep the profit I make out of SM and SWU and play the scoops/wcoops.

I`m not sure about of couple of things so I would like to give me some advice on this.

1) First of all my main goal should be ? Trying to get that life changing big score in the next 1-3 years or trying to move up stakes progressively ? I always struggled with this and Im always thinking Im making the wrong decisions. Using the whole profit and not giving myself a chance to move up might not be optimal in the wrong run. On the other part, not giviing myself a chance to play for a lot of money might also be frustrating. Im really confused on this one :) 2) Should I focus firstly on moving up to 50$+ BI and add the profit to BR ? 3) What games would you grind with a starting BR of 10K so you can cash-out monthly 400-500$ and still be able to move up in stakes ? I feel like I am most solid in MTTs and can play profitably any buyin but I have no problem in grinding another game if it`s more profitable.

I have been playing poker for 5 years now and it has been a fun ride where I learned and played a lot of games (MTTs, SNGs - every format except hypers, SH cash games - NLH and PLO). I feel like changing the games every year is not optimal and I should stick to one thing and try to improve.

I appreciate any advice guys and want to thank you for the time spent reading this.

  • If you want to talk more about MTTs or general poker you can send me a PM.

Sept. 14, 2015 | 7:58 a.m.

43:15 I missed the action I thought that it was single raised pot but he clicked it preflop. When he bets 3x pot we need around 43% equity and against
AA,AxKx,AxTx,AxKy,AxTy,KK,KxTx,KxTy,QxJx,TT,Tx9x,99,KhJh,7h8h we he around 36.8 EQ.

April 15, 2014 | 6:04 a.m.

The AQh hand where V overbets. Why don`t we bet/call ? We can get value from a lot of hands and have enough equity to call i think.

April 14, 2014 | 9:33 a.m.

Call and take a note.

Feb. 18, 2014 | 2 p.m.

Hand History | plop85 posted in MTT: 55 SB vs B 35bb
BN: 575008
SB: 410071 (Hero)
BB: 160700
CO: 164954
Preflop (18000) (4 Players)
CO folds, BN raises to 24000, Hero raises to 408371, and is all in

Jan. 9, 2014 | 12:29 a.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on bluf on river 200deep

Just check behind. You`ll win at SD a decent percentage.

Oct. 16, 2013 | 5:20 p.m.

I`m going with 75% pot bets in a min raised/3bet pot.

If he plays a lot of hands I think you can start 3betting him more IP rather than OOP until you get more info on his postflop play.


Oct. 16, 2013 | 4:12 p.m.

"He is unknown with 21/11/af0.0/3bet0.0"

"over pairs that he decides to flat preflop that he turns into a bluff on river would be one of them. "

Given those stats I think it`s an easy fold if he shoves the river. I think most of the players who decide to flat a big pair will raise almost any low flop especially the wet ones so they`re not inclined to slowplay both preflop and postflop that much.

I`m def betting bigger on the turn like 16/17.50 to maximize our FE. I noticed players fold more to a pot bet and call a 65-75% bet, so why not take the pot down on the turn more often

On the river against this V I think it`s an easy value bet but I`m going with a bigger size because I want him to just call with hands like 67s and QsJs and not raise them and he`s not going to fold an overpair anyway with the two deuces on the board.

You cand do two things to get more info on the players at the zoom tables.

1) After each session take like 30-40 minutes and watch the Instant hand history and see how big pots were played.

2) After the session press the observe button and leave the table open over night. In the morning you can go through the replay hand button and see how big pots were played and take notes on the players.

Oct. 15, 2013 | 8:19 a.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on call or not to call?
I think 84o and 34o can also be added to his B open.
Why is Ac8c a call ?


Oct. 13, 2013 | 1:43 p.m.

I think that at these stakes most of the players are lose passive and in this spot they`ll probably check behind Tx and Qx on the river but call a small bet. With those stacks they look like recreational players and they`ll always find a worse hand to call in close spots.

Oct. 12, 2013 | 7:33 a.m.

I think you can go for a smaller size on the river to lose less when you`re beat.

Oct. 12, 2013 | 7:05 a.m.

I automatically assume that regs at NL10 are not competent and get it in here and take notes of what they showup at showdown.

Oct. 10, 2013 | 7:05 p.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on QQ flop decision 10NL

If we bet/fold this flop can`t we bet smaller than half pot ?

Oct. 10, 2013 | 6:30 p.m.

There are a couple of things I don`t understand in this spot

1) Why do you call the flop raise on this board without even closing the action ? Can we profitably call it down 3 streets with 2 players in the pot ?

2) Marrek says the turn is a fold. Why would you call the flop to fold on the 4 turn ? The fish donks again but shouldn`t we have been expecting this action ?

3) Why do we assume that the reg`s range is weak in this spot ? Since he flat calls the turn with one player to act behind him I don`t think his range is ever weak here.


Oct. 10, 2013 | 6:21 p.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on KK sick turn... 10NL

How about this turn range

JJ-66,AT,KT,QT,AhQh,AhJh,AhTh,Ah9h,KhQh,KhJh,QhJh,QhTh,Qh9h,JhTh,Jh9h,Tx9x,9x8x,8x7x,7x6x against which we have only 45% EQ.

If he calls the shove only when we are beat and folds his OESD and FD is it still a good ideea to shove ?

How do we calculate the EV of our turn shove ?






Oct. 10, 2013 | 5:43 p.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on nl100 AJs turn decision
"but i don't really want to have a raise range here, since the fish acts
after me, the reg shows strength, and i don't feel comfortable having a
bluff raise range here"

What`s your calling range preflop B vs tight CO and with what part of that  range do you continue here and flat a pot bet ? I think this looks extremly strong and by raising the turn you just confirmed this assumption.

If the CO gets it in anyway on the turn after this action why do you feel the need to be balanced at these stakes ?

If he has an overpair or a jack I can`t imagine him folding when you raise the flop. His flop cbet being only 57 I imagine he's never bluffing in this spot and he has a strong range which he will stack off like always on this flop.

My guess is that thinking about balance and slowplaying in some spots against weak regs will cost you a ton of value.




Oct. 6, 2013 | 11 a.m.

How about 3betting OOP ? I usually make it 4x from the blinds but I get a lot of folds which is annoying when holding top range.
Should I be slowplaying preflop premium hands when they steal from late position and have a very high fold to steal like 75+ ? I want to try and build a bigger pot preflop but they fold so much to 3bets.


Sept. 23, 2013 | 6:20 a.m.

Even there is a small sample size of hands the facts that his wtsd is only 17% and he has a double stack makes me think that he is not inclined to bluffing that much.

Sept. 19, 2013 | 8 a.m.

I think you`re focusing too much on the stats in this spot and miss the action. At these stakes a 3bet from sb vs utg usually means qq-aa and most of the times but not always ak. Until he proves otherwise I`m gonna go with this assumption.

I also think that you should play a straight forward game and not get yourself into some tough spots or do a lot of bluffing or semi-bluffing. There are a lot of fish which are easy money so you should probably take these high variance plays out of your game.

I noticed the stack sizes at the tables. You should probably do a better table selection and play with at least 2 fish who have a full stack. Also you should be looking for lag fish and not those tight passive fish.

Sept. 19, 2013 | 7:38 a.m.

I think you should play a solid straight forward game at these stakes and not level yourself too much. If your image is aggro they won`t be making lighter 3bets for value and thiner value bets but instead they`ll be waiting for strong hands like sets to stack you off.

V has some tight stats so I doubt that he`s playing a hand like 9Ts or an over pair - which he decided to slowplay pre - this way. With his stats and the fact that this is a zoom game I think that his strategy is mostly floping sets and play them aggresively so I`m probably folding here on the flop.

Sept. 17, 2013 | 6:59 a.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on Ako 3bet pot OOP

If his defending range is something like 77-TT, AQ-ATs, KQ-KTs, QJ-QTs, JTs and continues on the flop with something like 70% of his range folding 77-99 and ATs, KTs and QTs that means we`re gonna take the pot down 30% of the time by betting.

Given the SPR is about 2:1 we need 40% equity to stack off on the flop and against his 70% of his range we have 49.4%.

- If he shoves AQ pre and we take it out from his defending 3b range we have around 40.5% equity needed to stack off on the flop.

With 30% FE and the equity needed to stack off on this board isn`t this a clear bet/call off ?

Sept. 3, 2013 | 1:31 p.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on Ako 3bet pot OOP

What about AsQx ?

Sept. 1, 2013 | 6:43 a.m.

Hand History | plop85 posted in NLHE: Ako 3bet pot OOP
BN: $24.35
SB: $26.60
BB: $69.25 (Hero)
UTG: $124.59
HJ: $36.10
CO: $26.75
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt K A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $1.25, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, CO calls $3.25
Flop ($9.75) J T 3 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.25, Hero raises to $14.91, CO raises to $22.25, and is all in, Hero calls $7.34

Sept. 1, 2013 | 6:22 a.m.

Comment | plop85 commented on ZOOM 50 preflop spot

Ok. Assuming I have the right ammount of info and i know that he is wide here. What`s our next move ?

My question was how to play this spot against an opponent who recognizes a good squeeze spot.

Aug. 29, 2013 | 9:52 a.m.

Hand History | plop85 posted in NLHE: ZOOM 50 preflop spot
BN: $83.10
SB: $54.67 (Hero)
BB: $123.87
UTG: $50
HJ: $17.78
CO: $50
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt J K
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $9, BN folds, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $6
Hi guys. I just started learning NLH CG and I figured out to start at the zoom tables to get some volume quickly. I came across this spot yesterday where I didn`t know what to do.
So the button makes a standard open to 2.5x - his BS is 100 (6/6) - and I decided to 3bet him.
The BB decides to squeeze. I have only 10 hands on him, he was playing 50/50 , 3bIP 2/4, 3b OOP 1/3, fold bb vs steal 0/1. Given these stats i made the assumption that he is squeezing light here. What is my next move in this spot ?

My thought was to 4bet small and fold to a shove. I didn`t expect to get much folds and when he calls I expect him to have a weaker range and not slowplay a lot. Postflop my plan was to bet/call with any equity and check/give up if I miss completely. I`m not sure about this line, I think it might be bad overall.

Let`s say you`re in the bb and you know that this scenario is going to happen a lot : B is opening 80+, SB knows that and 3bets a wide range.
1. Do you have a range for cold 4-betting in this spot ?
2. Is there any hand that you flat against a small 5bet?
3. What`s your shoving range here ?

Flop ($36.00) 4 8 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets $11.50, BB folds
Final Pot
Hero wins $29.84

Aug. 29, 2013 | 6:20 a.m.

Hand History | plop85 posted in MTT: Sunday Mill late spot
SB: 500790
BB: 1490832
UTG: 1694684
UTG1: 432542
UTG2: 832652
LJ: 758285
HJ: 782936
CO: 660335 (Hero)
BN: 752697
Preflop (45000) (9 Players)
Hero was dealt T A
UTG folds, UTG1 folds, UTG2 folds, LJ folds, HJ raises to 60000, Hero raises to 125675, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, HJ raises to 779936, and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot
HJ wins 323350

June 11, 2013 | 6:29 p.m.

Also do you have a calling rage here in the HJ ? How about 4 way if you`re in the BN

June 6, 2013 | 9:26 a.m.

Hand History | plop85 posted in PLO: turn play with strong made hand
BN: $13.61
SB: $13.87
BB: $43.37 (Hero)
UTG: $31.56
HJ: $99.12
CO: $25
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt T A J Q
UTG raises to $0.85, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.60
Flop ($2.55) Q T 5 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $8.44, UTG calls $6.94, SB calls $6.94
Turn ($27.87) Q T 5 3 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $26.62, UTG folds, SB calls $4.58, and is all in

June 6, 2013 | 9:18 a.m.

Hand History | plop85 posted in PLO: Standard play with aces ?
BN: $71.17
SB: $33.16 (Hero)
BB: $25
UTG: $33.33
HJ: $109
CO: $55.89
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt 3 5 A A
UTG folds, HJ raises to $0.85, CO folds, BN calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, BB raises to $4.25, HJ calls $3.40, BN calls $3.40, Hero raises to $21.25, BB raises to $25, and is all in, HJ calls $20.75, BN calls $20.75, Hero calls $3.75
Flop ($105.35) T K 3 (4 Players)
Hero bets $8.16, and is all in, HJ calls $8.16, BN raises to $46.17, and is all in

June 6, 2013 | 9:15 a.m.

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