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osiasgriffin

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one year later I feel the same as you ;)

March 16, 2016 | 2:58 p.m.

Hand History | osiasgriffin posted in MTT: standard spot need help
Blinds: t40/t80 (9 Players) MP: 1,702
MP+1: 2,546
MP+2: 1,144
CO: 732
BN: 1,784
SB: 1,892 (Hero)
BB: 750
UTG: 1,099
UTG+1: 4,397
Preflop (120) Hero is SB with T J
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to 160, MP folds, MP+1 calls 160, 3 folds, Hero calls 120, BB raises to 740 and is all in, UTG+1 calls 580, MP+1 folds, Hero calls 580
Flop (2,470) 7 Q 7
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 3,647 and is all in, Hero folds
Turn (6,117) 7 Q 7 4
River (6,117) 7 Q 7 4 3
Final Pot BB wins and shows a pair of Sevens.
UTG+1 wins and shows a pair of Sevens.
UTG+1 wins 1,235 BB wins 1,235

Feb. 19, 2016 | 3:32 p.m.

well, jimmy obst, we are paying you guys after all, so maybe you should not tell us how to gracefully thank you for getting what we are paying for- just a thought mate.

Feb. 3, 2016 | 11:34 a.m.

nice vid!
just one minor question, do we really have enough equity to c/c here? we´re also not closing the action and don´t have any backdoors; i would c/f as default, maybe that´s too nitty though

also one question concerning the hand on the bottom right at about 54:00, do you have a leading range on the river on this runout at all? which would be the most relevant blocker to tilt our river action towards c/c or even c/shove instead of c/f? do we have a c/shoving range at all?
imo we can´t automatically assume he´d bet all his 2pair combos otf this deep, and he also may not vbet super lightly given he c/b his rivered str8 on the K2236 board with one psb left;
would c/f turn be an option if we fold this specific river?

it´s a pretty interesting hand imo, and i feel i didn´t express myself properly here, but i wonder if your line is the most optimal in this spot...

good vid though, a lot of interesting hands, and nicely explained too.

Feb. 11, 2015 | 2:32 p.m.

32:40 the bottom left table, isn´t that heavily overplaying? ofc you do have blockers, you should have bluffs in your range, but you just have basically 0 equity?

Oct. 4, 2014 | 1:52 p.m.

very nice vid! 

disagree with the turn play of the QT42 hand though. i can understand your thinking behind it, but the hand itself in a vacuum is a good candidate to include in your c/pot turn range imo; we basically don´t have any relevant blockers to any draw. we do have relevant blockers vs his made hand range though, and therefore still likely the best hand vs a frequent double barrelling villain on a card he should 2barrel a lot since it improves his range more than ours imo, and there basically aren´t any blanks otr besides board pairing cards and offsuit 7s. most of the time we´ll be in a pretty ugly guessing game vs a decent opponent on most rivers basically w/out having much of a clue about his range since he´ll cbet this board prob very frequently with his whole btn stealing range and 2barrels a ton on this specific turn too imo

i realize this is against your thinking of playing the street individually and not planning too much ahead of future streets, but, in a vacuum by looking at our hand, it´s blocker potential, all potential river cards and villains visibility and positional advantage potential river situations  have to be considered imo, and i think we will be in a pretty big disadvantage generally speaking.

i usually really think raising for protection as the main reason is a poor play, and it would prob be the main reason in this case tbh, but if i had to construct a specific situation where it could be applied, it would prob be very close to the actual hand.

Oct. 4, 2014 | 10:26 a.m.

+1, whats a decent wr from sb and bb in 6max? stats noob speaking here

Oct. 4, 2014 | 9:50 a.m.

he´s repping the nf with his flop c/r, esp on such a board, and not a mediocre flush, so betting once checked to seems weird and accomplishes nothing except you want to induce him once more to go crazy.


btw, would not 3bet this preflop. flop is not a mandatory bet either imo, but accomplishes deception/balances your range and might induce some spew esp from this kind of player. you have to remember though that it´s hardly a vbet since you really will have a hard time getting called by worse on such a board. but it´s nice imo to add this hand in our c/betting range on that board cause it can stand some heat


Aug. 21, 2014 | 11:44 a.m.

play 1/2+ at stars. i guess some know my sn. spliffhaenger on skype

Aug. 8, 2014 | 12:24 p.m.

are you b/f or b/c? why do you think your actual sizing was better than potting?

July 4, 2014 | 12:03 p.m.

hand seems well played to me. just make sure you don´t only 4bet AAxx this deep

July 3, 2014 | 11:17 p.m.

pre is good.

i don´t know what you are trying to accomplish with your betsizing otf though, 60ish % doesn´t serve any purposes imo, i´d either pot or check, or bet like 1/3. all those actions imo have better reasonings behind than betting your specific amount mw with these stack sizes.

as played, turn looks like a clear jam or b/c, depending on your overall style, default jamming though.

river is kinda strange now, we´re prob good, but villain has a very narrow calling range, and prob isn´t bluffing much either given action on previous street. i guess you repp quads or air if you jam now, prob jam and hope he sees your bet as polarized and levels himself into a call, but ain´t optimal. i think though betting/jamming is the best of bad options we have once getting ourselfes into this spot.

July 3, 2014 | 6:41 p.m.

to add to the turn c/r raise, i personally would construct it in a very polarized way between TT+ and total air to have an easy decision on what to do when shoved on, c/r call the first part of the range and easy c/r fold the second one. we would be in a pretty painful situation if ivey decides to shove vs our actual hand ott imo.

April 8, 2014 | 6:03 p.m.

also not even remotely qualified since i don´t even play holdem but give it a try too :)

i even don´t know about preflop, i guess ivey is pretty sticky in position, our hand obv doesn´t play very well out of position vs a tough, loose opponent (which i think ivey is), but i guess it´s fine vs random hand, although i actually think it might be close.

flop c/bet is imo by far the best default line for our range with this texture, so not much to say about that, although phil prob has lots of history vs ivey in these situations whereas we could take an alternative line too i guess, like c/r to punish his total air stabs and get the pot most likely down with t high etc... seems pretty suboptimal though and very tough to balance and further streets if he continues etc, so imo cbetting is best, followed by c/c if ivey is likely to rep our hand with total air a lot. phil will know that better obv


turn is very player/read dependent imo; is ivey likely to double float? is he giving up on floats if double barreled on this turn, knowing he reps super thin/polarized on such a spot if he continues with a raise? if he likely folds his floats i think a simple double barrel would be the best play, if phil is trying to punish his floats (which i think he is) then c/r. c/ would be the default line too imo since i don´t think phil would bet all his value hands on such a board ott and could prob quite easily get away with a river stab if it´s c/c ott.

as archivist, i´m very curious though how you would construct your c/r range on this turn, esp since ivey most likely 3bets 77+ preflop. i´m curious on what parts of his range you are targeting with this c/r, esp with the plan of following up on blank rivers if called. looks to me like 44/55/66, 2x, 3x, maybe A4, A5. very small value range imo, but it looks that way to me. we prob drew out otr now and are almost certainly vbetting since i don´t think ivey folds TT+ (which he very rarely has anyway) ever, but isn´t that a bit strange since we obv thought a river bluff shove vs these hands would be +EV when c/r the turn? prob a merged vbet now, but what do i now...


April 8, 2014 | 6 p.m.

39:30 at the top right table, seems like a nice spot for a c/behind for me. we really don´t want to bloat the pot with a non nut draw vs a calling station and a player who prob quite frequently has a QQ/KK setmining heavy range due to his overlimp and therefore often have to fold our equity away when raised, esp with our nice backdoor straight. seems like a waste of equity imo; and it´s prob also not the best texture for barreling away if called. 

April 8, 2014 | 8:10 a.m.

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