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nzyellowfish

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I'm unsure about where your bottom value betting shold be. But if he starts folding 2pair then doesn't that make your bets with 2 pair bluffs and not value? He is now folding worse and calling better?

March 2, 2015 | 6:10 a.m.

I think often people are too focused on trying to get an opponent to make a mistake in a specific hand. In this situation it will be almost impossible to get the opponent to make such a big mistake as stackingnoff.
What you should be looking at is leading him to make a mistake while playing against your range. This would involve him overfolding his aces with good equity vs hands that you have that don't actually crush this board. So think whether you can have a bet sizing that A) allows you to bluff profitabley in the same situation with a different hand, or B) have him call when you still have more equity on a different board.

Remember if he has a sniff of equity outside aces you will likely end up getting it in either way. So you should be planning your bet sizing with regards to the rest of your range. You should be able to overbluff this spot.

March 2, 2015 | 6:01 a.m.

Jamming AQo here is fine and I think it's actually a good play.  Giving the hero a tight range with 0 bluffs (QQ+, AQs+, AKo) we have positive equity.  1 combo of QQ, 6 KK, 3 AA, 2 AQs, 3 AKs, 12 AKo.  Assuming the Hero checks the turn (which he didn't) and we shove as the villian and the hero is a nit, folding all his AK except AKs, we get called by QQ, KK, AA, AQs, and AKspades.  That is 13 combos.  We fold out 14 combos of AKo and AKs.  Approximate math in my head tells me thats a break even call (we would need around 15% equity to break even on the shove, considering our free pot when he folds). But feel free to equilab it or something

July 11, 2014 | 3:48 a.m.

3bet bigger and be willing to get it in. Your sizing allows some looser players to come in with speculative hands that feel committed to call.

As played I think you should lead out. I think its a close spot but you just can't really have 4bet -> check in your range unless you are going to shove over a raise. And you probably want to do that with kings aces maybe queens and your NFD blockers. Which means you have to bet this out or expect to be abused too often in this position. It's unlikely he has hit his flush (AKs or KQs only) I do often see KQs call 4 bets which is hugely minus ev but expect to see it kind of often at this limit. But you can get a fold from Anything without a spade and some made hands depending on the villian (especially if he has no flush blockers he can fold all his overpairs here sometimes if he is scared you are capable of barreling off your bluffs)

July 10, 2014 | 10:11 p.m.

I prefer to 3bet pre vd UTG here. Too often our ace is actually a reverse implied out. You want to sort that situation out early

July 10, 2014 | 7:28 p.m.

Yappattack, just realise that if you shove your current holdings here, you also have to do the same with J9 and some sets occasionally.  Which isn't a bad thing because they should get called lighter if you are capable of shoving the draw.  

July 10, 2014 | 9:05 a.m.

I think your problem with check raising is that you are forced to turn your hand into a bluff 75% of the time on the river. Assuming it doesn't run a club you now have te initiative and have to play back or come across as really week ( I assume you have no check raising river range here). Which means you are better to just call and then bet out on the river on any club or q, j or 7

July 10, 2014 | 12:15 a.m.

I think I actually prefer jamming the turn here. I think you get called by top pair occasionally but not always. Maybe like 50% and then always by sets and draws. Sets your equity isn't so bad. Draws you should be ahead of all of them. So by jamming I think I get more fold equity considering I'm getting it all in at some point eventually

July 10, 2014 | 12:10 a.m.

Not a ton of hands he can cold call a 3 bet with if he is a reg. any of his suited hands likely 4bet (ak aq) though maybe he flats AJs. I expect you are ahead so can raise or check call if you are scared he will shove over you. You probably also catch some bluffs c/c and get more value out of his queen. 

July 8, 2014 | 10:56 p.m.

Post | nzyellowfish posted in Chatter: Blockers when 3Betting

Hey guys, 

First post here, just recently joined.  I was considering the theory behind 3betting with blockers ie low suited kings/aces.  If my understanding is right the general concept behind this is that by having a A or K we eliminate a large portion of the combos the opener can 4bet raise with (assuming a tight 4betting range of JJ+, AQs, AKo).  This should in turn improve our chances of getting a successful fold by reducing the chance he has a 4betting range.

However isn't it only a theoretical advantage (depending on position and what card the king was dealt).  Assume we are on the BTN with 8Kd.

UTG opens 3BB

Hero raises to 9BB (we have the Kd blocker).

now if my math is right  without the blocker he has AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKo and AQs.  That is 44 combos.  If we remove the Kd he now only has 37 combos.  This therefore reduces his 4bet potential by 16%?  

But...

If we get dealt the Kd as our 2nd card, whilst we eliminate combos we did not reduce the odds of him being dealt AK or KK?  Therefore the chances we get 4bet should remain the same?

Not sure if that makes sense at all....  Or potentially we 3bet with blockers for a different reason XD

July 3, 2014 | 7:44 a.m.

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