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mForceXgen

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Good point about hand rate tho. While you can gain as much math edge as you can - in live it just won't work as online you lose a hand - you know you will come on top after 100 more of similar hands. While in live - you lose a hand and you are DONE. It's the end, you are out. While new school relays on aggressive game play and mathematics - old school makes it all about psychology, facial and movement readings, of course there are maths included too, but let's be honest - math only is too hard for people to digest.


It is the same as talking about space. While most of people find stars, planets and other stuff interesting - start talking about numbers only and they will lose interest just like that - in one click. Make it about photos, interesting facts and discoveries, how they were made, why sky is so beatuiful - you got yourself and auditory!


That's the whole point. People need and want show. It is like NBA, NHL, NFL etc. Do people go to watch all the practices 2-3 times per day? Do they want to know strategies behind game play? Not really, they want to see a beautiful play, that they can enjoy! Beautiful plays, sick combinations - people doesn't care how team got there. They want the show and they will pay for it.

Feb. 14, 2014 | 11:25 a.m.

Thanks, mate!


Ahh, I will post them yes, I just thought - will I get sufficient evaluations out of them, if the topic here isn't so popular. :)


To be honest, sometimes I am thinking to trying out cash games instead, but I am not quite sure for now...

Feb. 12, 2014 | 11:19 a.m.

Thanks for responses, guys!


I have thought about this play a lot today and I came up with conclusion I had to either fold this hand or shove it in the first place.

As min-raise, indeed, show a great strength, he could think of it as a weak steal attempt (which I think he did and moved in with a decent hand). Pushing the threes right away would generate a better effect on his mind than did just a min-raise. You know, keep him guessing, plus, I assume I would gain extra fold equity as others would see - that guy is moving with any pair. From that we would got greater value out of monster hands too - as they would think I am moving in with any pair, but instead we got a monster. Any thoughts?


Offtopic about monsters - it depends on positioning and actions of other players. In early position I consider a call instead of min-raise or all-in as most of the players will read it as a great strength anyway and we will use value of the hand. By calling we allow to players positioned later to re-raise us, therefore, we gain extra value of hand. In most cases we also can do re-raise and about 80% of time opponents will shove with 99+ or AJ+ (especially suited). Best pay offs come of the 5-6BB players as they are realizing - I am going to be blinded out anyway and will push way worse hands than we hold AA-QQ.

Feb. 12, 2014 | 11:17 a.m.

Agreeing with Negreanu on this one, though.


Edit: What I meant - while it is understandable how it differs from one school to other one - the old school guys are in the business longer period of time, therefore, they know what consumers pretty much are likely to buy. If it is fun at the tables - well, new school will need to take some acting classes as well.

Feb. 11, 2014 | 10:39 p.m.

Hand History | mForceXgen posted in Other: 180-man, 15pl left (EV hand)
UTG: reic21: $21288
UTG1: kaboul_10: $10582
LJ: tonibahia: $15662
HJ: mForceXgen: $15840
CO: Econometrist: $14204
BN: andreynho12: $14232
SB: DEJO1986 CR: $18644
BB: Kastilius: $13780
Preflop ($2400.00) (8 Players)
mForceXgen was dealt 3 3
reic21 folds, kaboul_10 folds, tonibahia folds, mForceXgen raises to $3200, Econometrist folds, andreynho12 folds, DEJO1986 CR raises to $18494, and is all in, Kastilius folds, mForceXgen calls $12490, and is all in
At this point I was putting him on any AX either suited or off-suit or KJ+ suited.
Flop ($36584.00) A 2 5 (2 Players)
Turn ($36584.00) A 2 5 7 (2 Players)
River ($36584.00) A 2 5 7 4 (2 Players)
Final Pot
DEJO1986 CR has A Q mForceXgen has 3 3 mForceXgen wins $34180

Feb. 11, 2014 | 10:16 p.m.

Post | mForceXgen posted in Other: Player activity on SNGs here?

Greetings!


I recently joined this site and while I find it really good for amateurs like me, I noticed that there is plenty action going on at NLHE section and not so much in SNG. As a SNG player I am really interested to know, that I would get decent response on hands I am likely to post here for evaluation and some content according to SNGs. :)


Any thoughts about that?


~mForceXgen

Feb. 11, 2014 | 10:11 p.m.

Yeah, I was looking for the same as I am playing 180-mans and I have to expand my knowledge. 

I watched some videos on the section anyway and you can surely adapt some of the given strategies/tip on SNG play. Especially for final table!

Though, some pro covering this topic would be really great and appreciated. :)


~mForceXgen

Feb. 11, 2014 | 10:07 p.m.

Agreeing to this one.


Sometimes do not bet so frequently. Especially so early in tournament. Try to c-bet, then check-raise for feeling out opponent or pot control. Check-fold if you notice he got a big hand and re-raises. Shoving on river early in tournament isn't profitable in long run.


~mForceXgen

Feb. 11, 2014 | 10:02 p.m.

Math says it all:


On given circumstances post flop, knowing both players hole cards, chances of winning are:


HERO: W-64.4% L-35.6% T-0%

SB: W-35.6% L-64.4% T-0%


Not knowing his hole cards you have to think about fold equity, that is - you can assume, opponent has big stack and will fold 70% of a time (because he feels comfortable with his stack) to shove like that. Knowing that you would win aprox. 60-70% of a time when called, this is definitely the right play. As of 65% of all time when called you will have HUGE chip advantage and most likely win the tournament =  gain profit.

If not called, you will gain chip advantage over your opponents anyway and it increases your chances of finishing first. What happens also - you deny willingness for most players to put all their chips in and risk ending behind bubble just with pure draws.


This was just unlucky situation. Basically - this was a good move.


~mForceXgen

Feb. 11, 2014 | 9:57 p.m.

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