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good video and remember you from husng vids. 

on the 335r board where you check raise, this is a board i expect to get at least 2 barrelled all day, do you not think if you were to implement a check raising strategy that delaying it to the turn will be better, you will gain more value and people are less inclined to float/play back at turn check raises than they are flop check raises, this way we can call backdoor draws and add them into our turn check raise too.


also Ive been thinking in spots like this and GTO, everytime i read about people talking in terms of GTO all i ever see is you need to be calling x amount to stop them from auto profiting and i think its reasonable in some spots like say the river where the action ends there. But do you not think in GTO play that there will be some boards where villains range is far stronger than ours that there will be spots where they will have a profitable any 2 card bet and we will not be able to call enough hands because the ev of calling those hands is worse than letting them take the profit of the cbet?

I mean i think its a reasonable thought because people get caught up with how weak and face up their range is and how its such a good board for villain whilst forgetting that villain will be in exactly the same spot on that board when the roles are reversed and the aim of GTO isnt to make it not profitable in every spot for villain but is to make the most optimal play and sometimes that might be letting them auto profit on a cbet because the ev of floating a range wide enough to stop that further increases the ev of his stronger range on later streets?

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April 14, 2014 | 5:42 p.m.

also the times you turn A high and u 3 barrel they will likely hero call all day long as you most likely chk back your AX hands OTF

Nov. 4, 2013 | 12:58 a.m.

I dont play hu cap, I play hyper sngs, think its a pretty terrible bluff u rep nothing, your high up enough in your range to just call there are a lot of worse hands in your range to bluff with if you wanted to bluff this spot. 

I just snap call the river. cbet as standard, you beat so much of his range its unreal, 30bbs people will call 3 streets with worse 9's all day, i understand chking back like 93s or something but A9 is almost the nuts hu this shallow. you will get called by K high A high any pair gutshots, shit like 8ts for backdoor str8+flush draws on good run outs u can 3 barrell for value 

Nov. 4, 2013 | 12:56 a.m.

only one question I have for sauce, The ace river is like the perfect river for you apart from hitting obviously which gives you the chance to win the pot without hitting, whats your plan on other rivers( im guessing just chk folding and the ev you gain from wcg bluffs when you hit more than make up for it?)


Nov. 4, 2013 | 12:48 a.m.

if Sauce has a decent amount of non pair combos in his range(which he probably doesnt given line a board) doesnt mean he has to bluff all of them, like what would the need be to bluff qk etc, whats wrong with chk folding a certain %(which u need to be doing as a blaanced range obv)


The main thing here is wcg blocks some of the value combos in sauces percieved range AT and ak, and dint think sauce would bluff kq,


by the river its pretty tough for sauce to have pure air really( depending on how he plays his flush draws, by the time sauce gets to the river a lot of hands in a chk call range have showdown if not a pair like qk etc which makes no sense in bluffing. the 65o hands is beaten by every bluff in wcg range. the ace on the river after a chk call chk call line is hardly ever getting barrelled so it makes sense to have a lead range in this spot.

without knowing a lot about sauces 3bet range and how he splits that range post its pretty hard to make a comment, but assuming sauces pure air hands with no SD value are 65 and missed flushes and his value combos are mainly the AT-AK hands then wcg hand is pretty good hand to bluff catch from a blocker POV compared to say 9x not including K9 q9 etc. 


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Nov. 4, 2013 | 12:35 a.m.

Comment | lovehatepoker commented on HU hyper sng's
yes jamming 22-88 is the rigth play vs almost anyone, i mean it would have to be vs an insane nit for it not to be correct that you have a reasonable sample against before even considering doing otherwise

Dec. 14, 2012 | 6:52 a.m.

Comment | lovehatepoker commented on husng 100€
Flatting 47s at 20bbs oop is fine, the only thing that would make me fold is his opening % is really low but as you said so is his cbet so its fine imo.

now u kinda need more info on villain, his cbet is low so what does his cbet range look like, is he the type that cbets any time he makes a pair or the type that cbets top pair + and draws and pot control's all other pairs.

how thin is villain capable of betting the turn, etc. most likely you played the hand fine tbh, most low cbetting types tend to check back alot of mid pairs bottom pairs and cbet draws and strong made hands when you get to the turn there isnt much else u can do, his range will be either really strong made hands which should continue to value bet rivers that complete you or air/ draws which u have a pair against. ie for the times he has a strong made hand you should have the implied for when you hit and the times its not you should have decent showdown IF they shutdown river.

fwiw I play hu hypers and my small sample of hands where i flatted 18bbs-25bbs for hands 85s,84s,75s,74s,65s,64s comes to ev -55bb/100 which seems bad BUT if you folded these hands you would lose -100bb/100 it doesnt need to be profitable it just has to be better than folding the big blind.

obviously if someone is opening 80% its more than likely going to be better to 3bet jam than flat.
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Dec. 14, 2012 | 6:48 a.m.

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