
longtang
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PS: I guess some other hands he could have is 56s, or 56o that missed the straight? But he still should not bet pair of 6 because he only has a bluff catcher. And if he had poc 6, I guess, he made his set but how does a set of six get to the river with that line? so there is no perceived set of six at the river. :-)
And acutally 78 of diamond would be a very sick Turn as he'd have pair and a diamond flush draw LOL. But that is sooo close to being impossible. :-) but would be pretty sick for improving equity.! So, in that vein, he could actually have 89s of hearts. LOL.
March 29, 2015 | 5:02 p.m.
Yo! Fellipe:
I am learning in such a short time! Here is a hand where the perceived ranges were very very confusing: We are playing Zone 25NL on bovada. Stacks are ~100BB I raise to 2.5xBB from CO, playing wide with Js 8s. At this point, if I get called, I am just going to play straight forward on flop and not get any more creative. Button calls me. His range at this point could be Suited Ace X, pocket pair, suited connector, AT, KT, AJ. On the flop, we get low cards: 4d 3c 8c By golly, I hit top pair! I bet full pot. He calls. HIs perceived range is now FD, TT - 55. He could still be trapping with Sets of 3, 4 (unlikely, but possible). Maybe 56s. Turn is 9d, which is a brick for the most part. Unless he hit a set of 9. I bet 1/2 pot, and he raises 2x my bet {piss poor bet sizing!, giving me pot odds to call very wide]. Using perceived ranges, he should be thinking I have overcards, overpairs, FD(possibly). So, his perceived range is now polarized to either sets, FD, Over pairs, and ??mayb overcards. I check the river which is 6c. No straights should have gotten there. But, a flush got there. He bets 3/4 pot. At this point, his perceived range is sets, completed flush. And possibly Overpairs (though it be really silly to play overpairs this way). I was stupid at the time, and didn't realize that I should have folded to this line and this sequence of perceived ranges. I just thought that he was fed up with me and was playing air. So, I make a stupid call. Imagine my surprise when he turns over pocket 5's. OMG! This guy has no idea how to play bluff catchers or how to think about perceived ranges. He took a perfectly good bluff catcher and lost a ton of money that he didn't need to lose because he does not understand two things:how to play a bluff catcher, (ie: never raise because you want the opp's range as wide and loose as possible!)
how to think about perceived ranges. (on this 2nd point, I was dumb, too. I should have folded most of the time there on the river! ) There should have been no reason that I was good by the river if he bets out 1/2 pot.
What do you think? Did I do an approximately decent job and thinking through the perceived ranges? :-) Thx! I love your teaching. I hope you do more perceived ranges in the future! It is an incredible topic! I figure the more we can hear you do it, the better we'll all get :-)
March 29, 2015 | 4:52 p.m.
actually felipe, after watching each hand multiple times (like 10+ times), I am starting to get it. I watched the 3,8 sb limp three bet hand. I think I am starting to get it. Another 20 or so watches I think I will get it. Thx! pls do more of these perceived range vids. txh!
Feb. 28, 2015 | 10:36 p.m.
Dear Felipe: I am new here. I know that this vid is great. But, I am not able to fully follow it. Can you (if you find it a quality thing to do) take one hand and go slower and teach the people who are new to ranges exactly why the perceived range is this vs that? I know that I should continue to do my homework. I am reading a lot on GTO and such. But, if you could do a video as a "Perceived Ranges for Dummies," it would help those intermediate players who want to learn ranges get closer to where everyone else is. I think that would make a good non-elite video. Thx! For us in the essential class of the subscription. Thx!
I video taped the hand so it is easy to follow: please look at this clip if you want to see the hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ35ldD-67w
thx!
March 29, 2015 | 5:03 p.m.