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I find myself in this situation so many times where i'm facing a loose raiser from the btn in EP. Where there seems to be a flush or straight draw. Im interested to hear what others have to say on any approach to this. I often find myself calling these with AK till the river blanks where the btn will just spew his whole stack all in even if its 3x pot. 

lol there's no cards

Sam, you posted a response to another AAxx hand where it flopped TTx (possible flush draw). Where the person OOP who called the 4-bet pre. Villain lead on the flop and you suggested to fold. In this hand are you saying bet small and call a shove? I'm assuming that's what you meant when you said "call it off". What's different about this hand where we're willing to get our stacks in? I'm sorry If I misunderstood what you said, but I'm just a little confused atm.

Check/Call flop imo. You have your draws but your OOP and there was a raiser pre with a caller. Lets check and see a free card or call. If you hit your straight draw on the turn, I'd go ahead and lead with a pot bet (but this also gives away our equity, but we also don't want to lose any value). But if your flush hits, I'd still check the turn and keep the pot smaller in case someone might have a higher flush.

Plus no info is given on any of our opponents stats & play, so i'd be more cautious without that.

I just want to say thank you to everyone that talked about this. Before, I didn't know how to treat these players type. And they occasionally show up at the table, and I know it can be very profitable. The next time this player showed up at my table, I made the changes you guys offered. Stacked him a couple times today ;) thank you.

My question is, do we stop CBetting all together and only with made hands with draws? He's not likely to fold so just wanted to make sure I was right on that.

What about on the flop after he 3bets me and I flat. Do I know change my play on CB? So don't CB at all if I didn't flop anything with a decent draw? Because I find he'll either raise or call my bet alot of the times. Then just ends up just it the rest of it on the T+R. Or hell lead with a pot sized bet.

this one is $45,000 more 0.0
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whoa, what the fuck is that??

ouch :/ nice handle on the downswing :)

those are called "corner desks"

http://www.staples.com/Corner-Desks/cat_CL164557

Thank you. Question, if this was only a heads up pot. And bobli was the flop aggressor leading out a pot bet. Would the standard be to fold on the flop? Given that if we call and hit a queen on the turn it could be helping out a straight, or that he may have some blockers in his hand.

yea, my concern on the turn was that the BB caller turn into the aggressor and flats your 3-bet. I wasn't concerned about the BTN's wide range of 3-betting hands.

I don't know about any medications or drugs. But there's this one herbal tea shop in my town. It offers a variety of different tea's using real dried flowers as those "medicated" benefits. The one I used was suppose to help me relax and sometimes made me a little on the sleepy side. Maybe that's something to look at? I know its not medication or drugs, but it has worked for me.

Your holding a premium pocket pair with a double suited hands King high. I would always 3-bet this full pot on the flop and flat a 4-bet raise.

I like your continuation bet. You didn't flop any monster draws. You have an overpair, and two backdoor flush draws. And the board is pretty dry. It's unlikely anyone flopped top set, when your holding a jack yourself.

I think we can make another bet on this turn. I feel if anyone had a set drawing to a full house. They would raise you on the flop on this dry board. So as to not let you get a free card to a monster draw. The turn gives us an two pair with kings, which is likely the best hand. Although you have to think about how many opponents are going to call this flop? The only hand calling this is another two pair, set or nut flush draw. Your holding a king so the only hand I'd be going with is the ace of spaces. So it may be better to check on this turn as to not give any equity away.

The check on the turn tells us our opponents don't have anything at all. I'd try and entice them to make a call with a small bet anywhere from 50-60% of the pot. Making a pot bet would just push them off this pot and you wont get anymore money off them.

On the flop your hand vs his hand all in your equity is slightly stronger than his.
Your equity all-in: 59.33%. His equity all-in: 40.67%

However if his hand was slightly stronger like: AcKh6c4c were in bad shape.
Your equity all-in: 38.23%. His equity all-in: 61.77%

So I don't really know. At one end you stand to be a favorite, but if our opponent holds top pair now he's a huge favorite.

I agree. I try and study PLO videos. In no offense to Sam, but its only one instructor. It'd be nice to have a diversity or a different type of video besides going over hands your playing and talking through them. I still love sam's PLO videos, just more topics to cover would be nice.

Your in the SB, OOP from every opponent. Your hand is gapped. None of it is really connected besides the 45. Your suited hand is a weak one. This is a complete trash type hand. I would never be 3 betting this from any position. Our 5-4-2-x straight draw like hand is very weak and is easily dominated by higher draws. We have the lowest valued hands in every way. There's no reason we should ever be 3-betting this. We'll only hit flops 10% of the time to have 60% equity against any random xxxx hand. We're in terrible shape.

On the flop you have a non nutted straight draw 8-high with the 7 high drawing card to use. We have bottom pair. You both check the turn giving you a free card to draw to your straight. I wouldn't be leading out and just checking like you did. We only have 60% equity on the turn 20% of the time so I would keep the pot as small as possible.

On the turn the 6c helps us and possibly our opponent. However because he 3-bet preflop pot I'd put him on a AAxx, KKxx type hand. There's also the possible QQxx with the same straight draw as you/ possibly a higher one. His turn aggression to flat call your 3-bet kind of shows some equity that he may just have a set type hand and is still drawing to a full house.

On the river I really don't know. TBH I wouldn't have even played this hand that far. I wouldn't make it beyond preflop because this would be a hand to fold. Maybe you need to readjust your starting hands and which hands you want to start making a big pot with. Because this hand is almost always dominated in many situations. It will get us into a lot of trouble pursuing it.

Seeing as his 3B range is fairly wide on the BTN. I'm putting this player as someone whose going to try and steal pots from the blinds + early position. That said our KKxx hand against any hand is 63.29% against any random xxxx hand 36.71%.

I would have flatted his 3B like you did. But on the flop I'm not giving any free card to any of our opponents. Seeing as there might be a str draw I'd lead out on the flop. If he raises our bet I'd flat his call. We only need about 73% equity to call about 90% of the turns. Also I just think if he has any type of hand I want him to put money in the board to continue.

The 5s turn is a blank IMO. I don't see our opponent holding a hand such as A-6-7-8 and calling our flop bet. But since the way the hand was played, I'm actually concerned with the turn play. The flop was checked, giving everyone a free card. A monster draw on the turn scares me. Villain leads out from OOP and calls your 3 bet. In my head I'm putting him on middle or bottom set (unlikely), A-Q-10-9, Axxxss type hand. Looking for the wrap or that flush draw.

The river brings a terrible card. I'm putting this villain with an Axxx type hand.. Given that he lead out and called our 3 bet, this is a card I would simply check on. And go to showdown with. I don't want to risk betting into his check and getting raised on a hand we can't continue on. Therefore I like our showdown value we had on the flop by checking. I just don't like the idea of facing a raise on this river hand and losing our value. Also, we lost the player from the BTN we were initially concerned about. We're now facing aggression from someone OOP on the turn.

Is this what you're referring to?
http://www.nutblocker.com/article/267/the-poker-learning-process-with-jared-tendler.html
Or is there a book on this topic ?

Need to mention, Villain Stats: VP:80/PFR:0/AGR:1.8/WTSD:38 (10 Hands)