lettu
33 points
Your combo is very nice for just calling the flop raise. I wouldnt look to fold on many runouts. Theres some recs where 3b is best, but without reads that he loves to raise say merged value (like QT QJ type hands) and semibluffs for that sizing, I would tend to just call.
That said I think the play is fine and would get it in happily there vs. your average rec.
July 17, 2018 | 2:50 p.m.
I would say only spot where its important to "polarize" / 3bet some junk hands is BB v SB. Maybe BB v BTN too, especially the wider they open.
July 1, 2018 | 5:09 p.m.
I would go bigger turn and jam this river. Even now I think I prefer just jamming, by a large margin.
Why are we creating a wideish c-c range on Jh river?
June 28, 2018 | 2:13 p.m.
Pair this high is mandatory bet imo. Going small makes the most sense to me too.
June 28, 2018 | 1:58 p.m.
Probably just best to buy some solutions, when it becomes relevant and valuable enough :)
Freestyle quite liberally untill then. I'm looking at pokersnowies ranges and they certainly dont seem that great, but I would be surprised if its leaking huge with them! So maybe preflop doesnt matter a huge deal, aside from bigger adjustments vs clearly weaker players..
Not sure where I should look to buy them though. Dont have paid version of pio/monker, only gto+.
June 28, 2018 | 1:48 p.m.
I find it hard to approach the 4b defense range too. Its only few hands that are clear folds in my 3b range vs. say common 2.5x 4bet. Lots of hands that should be around 0ev calling I'm guessing.. So I would try to do a lot of calling here to 4bets being IP and having lots of playable hands, slowplay AA often and such. I think its only narrow range that likes to 5b shove here.
Its good point to look at play vs. 4bet. For better or worse, I dont think I'm overfolding (atleast much) to 4bets with this range. It would be so much easier to draw conclusions from 4b defense, if it was 5bet/fold heavy range :(
June 28, 2018 | 1:27 p.m.
Hey,
Let me start by saying that I dont have money to buy gto preflop solutions, even if that would be a great way to get what i want here.
I've seen some solutions for big blind play, but its not super helpful here..
I'm trying to build default ranges for every spot, where I assume Im playing at a table with strong regs, with typical good ranges for each player. I know adjusting quite radically to recs is important and I am definitely doing it, I just want a good baseline where its less random button pressing, also when I'm adjusting to the table.
So the spot that I struggle with atm is BTN vs. MP-UTG 20% open. I want to build a 3bet+flat and 3bet only range.
Lets assume its 3x raise sizing, which is by far the most common sizing that I face. Rake where I play is around Stars NL100 rake.
What I have so far is around 10,7% 3bet only range, trying to cover different boards well, so some lower pp and lower suited aces mixed in with the usual stuff. Mostly questioning if 10,7% is too tight?
For 3bet + flat, I have a total range of 12% (naturally a bit wider than 3bet only) and 61% of this range is being 3bet. Mainly wondering if my ratio is good here, or should I be 3betting substantially more of my range? I think I heard Tyler Forrester say in one of his more recent video that 3bet range should be much wider than call range in a preflop spot like this. For call range once again I think I have decent board coverage (ofc real "gto" solution would be much stronger) and some idea what hands like or dont like flatting too much and some mixing, that I can do pretty easily while playing.
In practise it would probably be smart to play 3bet only when its regular opener and strong players on blinds. Then play more cally and wider range, than what I'm building here when theres a recreational player on blinds. Which is what I will always do, but never the less, I wanna get more indepth with these spots and I think building excact ranges like this will be beneficial for more explo play too.
Any help is appreciated, especially if something seems far from right!
June 27, 2018 | 7:35 p.m.
+1 sick computer setup!
Curious if he had 34s, with backdoor flushdraw on the flop? Or just a random 34 hand?
May 23, 2018 | 10:08 p.m.
Looks good, leading flop could be an option too.
Oct. 29, 2016 | 8:50 p.m.
You can tighten your range, but A9o will never be even close to an open fold. That would never be the case in any realistic scenario.
Oct. 29, 2016 | 8:48 p.m.
Definitely cant fold, BB is a fish, so CO should get it in here fair bit lighter and you're holding middle set, so not even close.
Oct. 29, 2016 | 8:43 p.m.
Nh, checking river would be very suboptimal!
Oct. 29, 2016 | 8:40 p.m.
Open all of them.
I tend to auto open all of them except ATo for 3x, regardless of table. A5s should be an obvious open usually (hand prefers deeper stacks though), others marginal.
Preflop spots like this is not why you're doing good or bad though, its really kinda what ever in these spots imo!
Oct. 29, 2016 | 8:34 p.m.
I think CR here, should perform better than calling. Nh!
April 18, 2016 | 3:51 p.m.
Super easy shove as played. Everything else is horrible.
April 17, 2016 | 5:04 p.m.
Well played on every street.
April 17, 2016 | 4:54 p.m.
Dont think we should consider bluffcatching river with this hand. Also I tend to think that turnplay is extremely nut heavy. I would fold this hand on the turn. I do think its good barrel and you are not gonna get raised here often.
April 11, 2016 | 10:59 a.m.
Just triple barrel this hand vs. a fish. I might just shove river my self.
As played I'm calling, but think its kinda marginal spot, with no reads on the fish.
April 11, 2016 | 10:52 a.m.
Yeah the stats thing can be misleading, vpip pfr converge way faster than 3b. Hes probably a nit playing a very tight style. But its extremely unlikely that he has 1% 3bet (or under 5-4%), because almost nobody does.
April 11, 2016 | 10:34 a.m.
Clear river shove as played.
April 11, 2016 | 10:24 a.m.
I would expect to see a 9hxh hand here a ton, maybe something like Jh5h etc. Assuming villain is not a fish. I highly doubt people bluff this spot basicly ever.
If villain is total unknown it becomes a harder fold, I guess.
April 11, 2016 | 10:14 a.m.
I doubt c-c flop is the best play with this hand. Especially with a strategy where you have no cr range on the turn. Its bad reasoning to check just to protect your range, like said earlier. What you should always worry about is playing every hand to its highest EV.
Checking some weakest Qx on the flop seems a lot more reasonable to me than JJ. Or a strategy where you bet flop more merged with hands like AA KK QTs or smth and start check calling turn, since you cant triple those for value.
April 5, 2016 | 3:40 a.m.
a hand like KT should be a clear valuebet for him.
If he has lots of no pair hands on the flop for c-c and or just bets a ton to win pots, this kind of hand could be a fine call. Normally just fold vs. not terrible villains.
I like the turn check.
April 5, 2016 | 3:22 a.m.
I would always check flop. As played seems totally fine.
April 5, 2016 | 3:15 a.m.
Calling looks perfect to me, I would be very surprised if it wasnt better than folding. Oo
April 5, 2016 | 3:10 a.m.
Doesnt seem necessarily bad, but you're repping very thin imo. How many big clubs would you check back OTF?
I would just call here all day.
Maybe this play has merit vs. people that are overly nitty and believer types.
April 5, 2016 | 2:49 a.m.
I would 4b pre readless.
As played calling turn.
April 5, 2016 | 2:34 a.m.
Mostly stick to betting valuehands on the turn that can also valuebet many rivers.
April 5, 2016 | 2:30 a.m.
Pre should be slightly +ev with fish in blinds. I dont know why people focus on pre here though.
Turn seems bad, he can have some weaker Jx and playing hands like 99, TT make a bit of sense, with the fish on the pot and for that sizing. And besides that A7 is very weak and down in your range here. Also villain could easily bet some better Ax hands, weather it is good or not, which is even worse for us.
Also I would level just a tiny bit that this is more of a thin value rather than a bluff sizing for villain.
I would need something like AK, AQ to start considering calling.
Doesn't giving only 120% turn sizing for IP significantly hurt the bigger flop sizing? I would suspect that on the 962 suited board atleast.
Nevertheless very useful video!
May 7, 2019 | 7 a.m.