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Hi,
Actually, I'm very surprised by your answer to question #1 :
Equity should be against the whole range
Let's take a black & white example : let's say Villain's range is made of air+slowplayed strong hands (example : Hero opens BTN with 7's and Villain calls in SB (SB range includes poket pairs up to JJ) ; Villain XRaised a polar range (sets+draws) on 3c7dTd and barrel turn 2h and checks River 2h when no draw is completed and also Turn and River cards don't hit Vilain's range, with this final runout : 3c7dTd2h2s). Now BTN thinks about value betting his mid FH.
Don't you think the only equity which matters in this spot is BTN's equity vs Villain's not folding range (vs Villain's calling or raising hands)?
How could the equity versus the folding range impact our betsizing here, given that all these busted draws will fold anyway, whatever the sizing? We are not talking about inducing here I guess.
When I watch your vid, it seems that most of the time, you are calculating your equity vs Villain's calling range, except @0:29:44 which is not clear regarding that question.
Thank you for your answers!

Hi Tyler, please, can you answer my previous questions?
Also, are you sure you retranscripted well Tipton's formula?
I get strange results (with Equity = Hero's hand Equity vs Villain's calling range).
For example, with S2P ratio = 4.33
If Hero's equity = 99.39% -> B* = 4.33pot (which is OK)
But :
If Hero's equity = 98.48% -> B = 21.78pot (which is NOT OK)
If Hero's equity = 97.56% -> B = 7.52pot (which is NOT OK)
If Hero's equity = 96.33% -> B = 4.09*pot (which is OK)

Any idea of what's happening here?

Are you sure that :
Tipton 's S = stack / pot
Tipton 's T = 1-Equity
?

thanks

Hi,
thank you for the answers!
1. Sorry, but I still don't understand if "Equity" should be our hand's equity vs Villain's whole range or the equity vs Villain's calling range?
3. I don't know about simplyposftlop & GTORB, but as far as I know, PioSOLVER doesn't do what we are talking about (or this is a feature I missed?) : when you solve a postflop spot with PioSolver, you set the betsizings before launching the solver, and then PioSolver deduces the optimal ranges for each possible action based on these betsizings. But here, the betsizings are not determined : they are precisely what we look for.
What I meant with this question #3 is that it is possible of course to deduce a betsizing from a range or a range from a betsizing (PioSOLVER does this), but I hardly see how to use this formula with split ranges given that the composition of each range depends on the bluff:value ratio, which depends on the betsizing, which depends on the Equity, which depends on the composition of the range... This is an endless circle.
Or maybe the formula is made so that we only have to take into account the equity of our Value range and then we can build the bluffing range corresponding to this betsizing?

Hi,
A few questions :
1. in Tipton's formula, is "Equity" our hand's equity vs Villain's whole range or the equity vs Villain's calling range?
If it's the equity vs Villain's calling range, which seems to be the case (this is what you said in a previous comment), it seems hard / impossible to determine what Villain will call with (so it's hard / impossible to determine our equity vs V's calling range) before determining our betsizing (especially if Villain calls 1-A).
For example, in the 2nd hand with T8o : do you think Villain calls 2.3*pot with AJ? And in the Ac3c hand, do you think Villain will call your River bet with KcJc (which is one of the worst bluffcatching hand blockers wise)?
On the other hand, @0:29:44 you say you set "the hands you think he has on the river" (not the ones you think he calls with), so I am still not sure what is the Villain's range we take into consideration when evaluating the equity?
2. could this formula be used for flop and turn spots?
3. regarding the idea of using this formula with several ranges on the River (let's say 3 ranges : Nuts+bluff, strong+bluff, thinValue+Bluffs) : this sounds great, but I hardly see how this could be done, because to build each one of these 3 ranges, the number of bluffs for any value hand depends on the betsize we use, and in order to use this formula to calculate the betsize, we need to know our equity, which implies that we know what hands are in our range (the more bluffs, the less equity). so calculating the optimal betsizing requires to know the equity, which requires to know the range composition, which implies to know the betsizing... this is endless...
4. Does Tipton suggest any method or any other formula to deal with the bluffing spots and have an overall balanced strategy using this value bet sizing formula?
PS : @0:26:14 + @0:31:25 "and he calls relatively quickly" : is there a feature that saves the timings in HEM? or you just levelled yourself vs your replayer?

Hi javier,
What's your winrate? Can you post a graph please? Or maybe your results are already available somewhere? Do you make a living playing cash? And do you play other games than zoom?
Thanks

yes, the importance of playability is mentioned @ 11:30.

Could you go further regarding the fact of priorizing other factors then just Equity?
Which factors would you take into account apart from Equity?
How much would you weight each of these factors (equity, playability, other factors...)?

For example, which hand would you prefer check calling with in this A64rb spot :
-1 hand XYs with backdoor str8 and flush draws, with (let's say) 25% equity
-or 1 hand WZo with no backdoors, but with a higher equity : let's say 30%

What if the difference of equity is higher (say 25% vs 35%)?
What would be the threshold in terms of difference of equity for still priorizing a "more playable" hand vs a "better equity" hand?

thanks

Hi Vincent,
@ 10:50, you list the hands we should defend by order of priority, but this sounds arbitrary (I don't mean this order is wrong but just that this order seems driven by your experience).
In a vaccuum, do you agree that the order of hands we should defend is top X% of hands from the best equity to the lowest equity, or do you also take into consideration other factors such as playability, cards our opponent would barrel on?
(sorry if this info is in the vid but I missed it)