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There isnt really enough money behind on the turn to generate fold equity (suicide bluff), but if there was more behind; The odd time hes bluffing, your turn shove takes away his rope (let him hang himself).
This doesnt really apply here but just a thought for other spots ;-)
Drops mic and 'pimp' walks off... .

I would have 4bet just large enough to commit myself, but make it look like your not commited so he may consider a bluff shove... lol.

up

hes got AK too

by absolute position i mean something like eg, bu- sb cc- bb 3b

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Thanks alot, you are my hero.

i like it...

with a 9% 3b, he can easily have a 15+% bu vs co 3b range.

4b pre

pot odds mean something with QQ and a gs

your value:bluff ratio should be =to their fv3b stat

didnt have my glasses on... nh

What are some ways to use flopzilla and equilab together?

I kind of just free for all between the two and was just curious if there can be a more systematical relationship between them for studying.
eg;range construction,bluffcatching river,etc.

Thanks

my mind is boggled...
I understand the theory you laid out, what are ways to implement this into your game as far as thinking of optimal betsizes for our range construction?

thanks

People call 3bets wider when ip so I think you should value 3b wider oop, so I personally would 3b JJ+,AK oop bb/ and KK+ ip on bu vs utg.
If there really tight ill start flatting JJ and AK.

as played flop,turn are best I think, River he has KJh everytime...

It really helps, if you can still focus enough on your games.
makes you feel more chilled out and able to play longer with less fatigue, but less volume and it can be easy to lose focus and time fold AA...

• -i 4x min opens; the difference in fe needed is very little + you increase fe, so its better imo.
  -ott betsize is ok with entire range. x or bet are close either way.
  I think most of the time air and Aces stab flop but not 100%
  -river i fold

2/3 flop, 3/4-4/5 ott
river easy fold
he may have bdfd floats but theres too many value combos he can have

using game theory concepts-

88,99,66,89s,86s,57s./ 15 Value Combos.
(A2d+,KTd+,QTs,JTs,T9s,67s,78s,97s./ 33 Bluff Combos.
value:bluff ratio = 1:2
You may play more or less hands but the ratio would still be close enough.
Having bet 1/2 pot on the river giving villain 3:1, only having to be good 1/4 of the time
But vs your range he is good 2/3 of the time and has a 'clear call'$
Basically from a balance perspective we have to many bluffs on river and need to structure our postflop ranges differently.

from an exploitative standpoint, some players might give too much credit in this spot eg;
the population is passive so its better to fold more than optimal vs unkowns, and can fold AA under rare circumstances, but if I were to be bluffing here I would be setting up to shove on riv maximizing pressure like you would with those value hands.
This spot were going to be perceived to have lots of bluffs I think.

cbet AK w bdfd 100% makes sense.

UpUpAndAway, what do you think his calling range on the river is?
seems pretty narrow.

Your betsize is based on your range.
If theres a spot you are value betting with very few bluffs in your range,
it would make sense to bet very small given the odds villain is getting on a call, or else he wont have the right pot odds to call vs your range and will never pay off.

study -balanced river betting

gl

Im curious as to why you think mp1 would 3b 99 pre vs utg 9 handed?

imo 450-500 are all good preflop.
personally I 3b slightly less than pot vs a min open + coldcall .

Are you 3betting KQs becuse you dont think its strong enough to flat?

Like you and Disharmonist said, he has sets and NFD so its gonna be a fold imo. Doesnt seem like a good spot to bluff with weaker draws+ given earlier positions.

"bet/folding" is only exploitable if you fold too often,
And only if there "actually trying to exploit you.
If someone is trying to exploit you,
then immediately they become exploitable themselves...obvi
villain bluffs less,fold more.
villain bluffs more,call more.

using game theory principles you need to defend approx 50%(rough estimate) of your cbets to a raise and if bet/folding AK on that board means you dont have enough better hands in your cbet range to defend vs a raise then technically you can be exploited meaning you would have to adjust your cbet range.

I would only worry about optimal bluffing and calling frequencies vs strong balanced opponents actually capable of exploiting you.
GTO is a defense strat. as soon as you recognize an imbalance in your opponents you immediatley switch to an exploitative strat to maximize ev.

At 10nl the population doesnt play GTO and are extremely imbalanced eg;
-call too much
-bluff too little
so you would exploit the population by: bluffing less, value betting thinner + and bluff catching less.

OP hand:
doesnt matter if b/f AK is exploitable in a vacuum- if the population isnt going to bluff raise flop often enough and call to wide its more +ev to value bet thinner than adjust to a strategy your opponent doesnt even implement.

vs this stack size easy b/c (shorter stacks gii much lighter and do wierd stuff)
vs 100bb you could b/c or b/f - fold turn to standard bet. (sick but closer to b/f vs population, because they mostly play draws by calling and dont raise TP.)

If your ever worried about being raised off your hand too often in a certain spot its probably best to pot control more often in that spot.

gl.

I like to bet often OTT without a spade + check often with a spade.

If a spot is close either way, given how the population plays I would fold all the closest spots as a default.
imo river is a fold.

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Hes most likely to jam All of his continuing Range.without fd.
fish will spazz jam a Q no club and worse pairs at times.
If you cant x/c river than I wouldnt bet.

Great post, JolNrbs
Thanks for the detailed explanation

Thanks for your answer cpau