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João Ferreira

7 points

April 28, 2013 | 7:46 a.m.

Lucas, thanks for the response.
In 1. what do you mean by potentially folding the bottom of his range?

I still don't understand something. Why in 2. you decide to fold a low PP although you are IP, and in 4. you say you would rather call it OOP?
I imagine that it is because of opening ranges, in 2. the open is from the UTG, and in 4. the open is from the CO, and thus quite looser, but still, isn't 22 a hand that will give you very low equity on your moves postflop?

April 27, 2013 | 8:40 p.m.

Hello Lucas,

Great vid. I have some questions, I will be grateful if you can answer them:

1) 06:24 - You have QQ on the UTG and you are 3-bet by a tight range (around 2-3%) on the CO, what is your range for calling here?
What do you think of using adjusted equity % as a decision factor on whether to call or not 3-bets both OOP and IP? By adjusted equity % I mean, you need 33% equity to call, but as you are OOP you adjust to 37% or something along these lines.
If you have any other comments on how to decide wheter or not to call in similar spots it will be greatly appreciated.

2) 08:50 - You have 33 on the BTN vs a UTG 13% open and you say you fold because his range is too tight. Isn't that a reason as well for calling there, as it is more likely that you'll get paid off when you hit a set?
What are your thoughts about it?
Also, how much do the blinds squeeze % affect your decision here?

3)12:30 - Do you think calling preflop KQo is +EV (HIJ opened, CO called)? Why?

4) 14:00 - What are your toughts on 3-betting 22 preflop? Won't you end up giving up too many pots post flop?

April 27, 2013 | 10:57 a.m.

Michael,

I don't know if this is in already, but a topic on calling 4-bets, and playing 4-bet pots (both as agressor and caller) would be great.

April 26, 2013 | 2:39 a.m.

A bit off topic, but can you recommend me good material on how to build GTO ranges and stuff like this?

"According to GTO we should have a minimum defense frequency of somewhere in the area of 60%."

I understand that you need around 60% of folds to get instant profit on a 3-bet (with 0% equity), but that means we should defend 40% against a 3-bet to avoid this. How do we get to the 60%? We consider the equity they have in the hand as well? How do we do it?

Thanks,

João

April 22, 2013 | 6:08 p.m.

There is an old topic in 2p2 about this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56/medium-stakes-pl-nl/6-max-winrate-lossrate-position-467019/

April 21, 2013 | 7:23 a.m.

Now I see I talked some nonsense, I was saying that I was far off from GTO, but actually villain was far off GTO, in case that I am not indifferent to bluffing or not.

But I still don't understand why my bet is GTO. Shouldn't this depend on my range as whole?

Thanks

April 21, 2013 | 7:22 a.m.

I think raising pre is the way to go, any particular reasons for not doing so?

I would call the turn. I did play a bit with CREV and with the assumptions I made and it gave me the result that calling > raising.
You're very behind of 33s and not really that ahead of other hands, besides 2h3h (which I think will fold some decent % of the time).
You are also not that ahead of the fish's getting it in range, with the ranges I estimated you have around 70% vs his range.

Also you'll be seeing the river in position, which may help getting an extra value bet from the fish in case draws miss and it is checked to you.

April 21, 2013 | 7:12 a.m.

Check this out, according to my math it is far off from GTO and has a quite big EV.

EV = (pot size)*(fold percentage) - (bet size)*(call+raise percentage)
EV = 1*0.66 - 0.55*.34
EV = 0.47 pot

April 20, 2013 | 1:37 p.m.

Hello Michael,

There are two topics I thought until now:

1. Exploitation - the more specific and detailed as possible, with number and lots of real life examples. Some subtopics are:

a. Villain doesn't bluff at all when checked to, how should we build our c-betting ranges?
b. Villain calls 4-bets very wide, how should we build our 4-betting range?
c. Villain raises c-bets very often.
d. Villain bets versus missed c-bet with a very high frequency

If this interests you, just let me know that I can come up with other subtopics.

2. Equity - A theoretical perspective on this, how this influences our play, the distributions on how hands convert to equity on flops, turns and rivers, how should we base our preflop decisions according to this.

Something along this lines, if it is not clear enough, let me know and I'll try to explain in a different way.

April 19, 2013 | 10:15 p.m.

For the 1st range (and to some extent to the 2nd range), isn't my folding equity 9/14, instead of 5/14? Which gives me ~66.3% of folding frequency and a +EV play?

April 19, 2013 | 6:32 p.m.

First, thanks for the response.

I don't know if it is clear but my tought process is that once he checks the turn, I think he'll have trips or better much less frequently on the river.

I did some simulations on flopzilla:

I gave him this range to call PF (30% fold and 4-bet range 2.5% = QQ+ and AK):
JJ-22,AQo-AJo,KQo-KJo,AQs-ATs,KQs-KJs,QJs,JTs

His flop calling range is 99 or better (he folds 68% of the time).

On the turn I made it as if he always bet trips and checked back all the other hands (including full houses, which means he checks around 55% of the time).

On the river, he has a weak pair 52.9% of the time, if he is folding them, my play is +EV.

What is your opinion about it?

April 19, 2013 | 1:22 a.m.

Hand History | João Ferreira posted in NLHE: ZOOM NL 5 - River Bluff on 3-bet Pot
BN: $2.61
SB: $5.12
BB: $5.15 (Hero)
UTG: $4.90
HJ: $1.23
CO: $5
Preflop ($0.07) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt K 9
UTG raises to $0.15, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.45, UTG calls $0.30
UTG was opening 18% of hands on UTG, folding to 50% of 3-bets (general stat) and folding to 72% of c-bets on 3-bet pots (general stat).
Flop ($0.97) Q 2 Q (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.55, UTG calls $0.55
Given that he has been folding a lot to c-bets (72% on 3-bet pots) I think I can fold a lot of hands, and have a huge profit on the c-bet: some A highs, unpaired cards, and even some low PPs some percentage of the time.
Turn ($2.07) Q 2 Q J (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks
Once he calls, I figure that his range is pretty strong and that it isn't profitable to barrel here.
River ($2.07) Q 2 Q J 5 (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.15, UTG raises to $3.45, Hero folds
After he checks back the turn, I think he frequently has some kind of PP and I think I can fold those frequently enough to make it profitable, as I think I'll never ever win this hand at showdown if I check it.
Final Pot
UTG wins $4.14

April 18, 2013 | 11:38 p.m.

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