John Jernigan

I think this kind of format is a great balance between providing HU content while still being valuable to 6max players. Obviously if you explain the differences in the spot between HU and 6M then it's obviously quite useful, but you also do a great job of explaining fundamental concepts that apply to both formats (e.g. the next to last hand 98TAmKr where you have 97o, where you note that the 7 actually unblocks Villain's bluffs because he checked behind turn and he would usually bet his bluffs with a 7 on the turn - that type of thinking clearly applies to 6M, even if the exact thresholds/combos are different).

I think this is bar none one of the best videos ever on RIO. Strongly strongly encourage you to do more like this.

Really enjoyed this two video series, I think the amount of depth you get into is perfect - it's not superficial, but it's not overly detailed; it just seems very practical, presumably the way you might review the hands if you were just studying yourself.

Hey Krzysztof, love your videos, but I thought this one could have used a summary/heuristics slide at the end like you've done with some of your other series. The spreadsheet is obviously great, but I wasn't sure I totally understood how to play these situations because a lot of the video felt like "I'm clicking through Pio" as opposed to explaining concepts/conclusions/takeaways. Again love your videos, just my 2c.

100% agree with proverbspoker and Holonomy, they were spot on. This is one of the best videos I've ever watched on RIO. proverb make the key point - you're informed by solver work, but you don't "click through" the Pio solutions, which is often not entertaining but also not that educational because we can't memorize solver solutions. The high level heuristics are obviously great, but if you continue to do these videos you might feel like sometimes they get repetitive (e.g. which combos of 2P raise more on the flop, etc.) So one thought could be to do a video format like this, but focus on a specific spot (e.g. BUvBB cbT) and I could see that yielding a lot of really interesting content.

Hey - I'm a huge fan of your other videos but I'd prefer your other formats to this one, if I'm being honest. I think your strength is theoretical rigor, so just giving us your thoughts on various hands feels a bit random and, frankly, is similar to all the other videos on RIO that I don't watch.....

More stuff like your preflop 4B video IMO - that's super differentiated and takes advantage of your strengths. Thanks though for the effort, I know no video is easy.

Outstanding video - one of the best combinations of theoretical and practical that I've seen on the site. I would love to see more like this.

Great video Tom. Would be interesting to see you use PokerJuice to do some of this analysis in future videos.

Hi Tom, at 5:15 I don't totally understand the explanation of the "pair blocker" concept (unfortunately you kept changing the hand example so it was a little hard to follow). Can you explain it one more time? Thanks!

IMO the audio is totally fine

Have you posted 11b yet? I saw Part 13a (Flop Equity), so are you just doing some of it out of order?

Tom - I'm slowly working my way through these videos, I like that this one did more of a "dive" into specific examples, I think it's helpful to illustrate some of your general observations that way. Keep up the good work.

Good vid Ceegee. I've liked the content so far, but you said on a podcast (Poker Life maybe?) that there was a point in your career where you started thinking about the games differently, more game theory, etc. Especially for stud8, your analysis (which has been great) has seemed in the vein of what Joe Tall used to do on DC back in the day. I'd be curious to hear you talk more about the types of analysis or things you do away from the tables (maybe similar to what you showed on Razz) that are different from the way people thought about back in the Joe Tall days.

Zen, it looks like that video is down - any other places that explain how to use Pio on EC2?

As one small suggestion, I'd be willing to pay for a different subscription level that was all theory/analytical review with software tools (pio, pokerjuice, omaha ranger, etc.) As Sauce has pointed, clearly a ton of Elite members just "like" every one of his liveplay videos so he (and RIO) are incentivized to make them. But you could potentially create a third tier, relying on the more analytically inclined pros (Sauce, Oxota, Diego, Steve Paul, the new PLO pros, etc.) and using that to subsidize the time it takes to make those videos. Maybe it wouldn't work but it's an idea..

Loved this video. I would prefer more like this (analytical/mathematical breakdown of a hand) rather than some of the other things you mentioned at the end of the video (reviewing someone else's play, or a preflop button analysis) because there's so little else like it on the site. Thanks Sergey!

These are great videos because they're really useful both for MTT players and for cash-only players (like myself). You've picked some great spots to analyze in this video series and do a nice job going through the examples. The only small thing I'd note is that to really drive home the value to cash players, it might be useful just to remind us of the SPR on the flop. Obviously we can tell by looking at the Pio data, but particularly if for some reason one of the examples was a lower SPR than you might find in a cash game, it might be worth highlighting. Keep up the good work Sam!

Love your videos, I think they should get more votes. For Essential members, I don't think there's any other content like this on the site...

Re: #1, I suppose this illustrates another difference between this example and the pure nuts vs. air toy game. In the latter, position is irrelevant yes? But here it looks like because OOP doesn't have a purely polarized range, he now has to protect his checkback range (because in a pure nuts/air game IP would never bet JJ-99 because he's only called by worse). Is that the right way to think about it?

Hey Tyler - great video! Regarding the second example (too few bluffs), two questions: (1) why does the bettor only bet 90% of his value hands? (2) it looks like he bets 40% of his medium-strength hand (88) - is there a way to calculate that by hand (the way you can calculate alpha or optimal bluff frequency as the pot odds offered, in a nuts vs. air toy game)?

Zach you're really good at using Pio in a video! It's easy to get bogged down over-explaining or over-narrating the solution. I thought you did an awesome job hitting the important points while keeping the pace moving. I know you don't play much NL but more videos like this would certainly be welcome! Thanks for doing it.

Seconded

I'm very new to PLO so apologies if this is a dumb question. But at 11:40, you say you don't have enough value to be raising at any point. I just very quickly put it into Pokerjuice (which again I'm new to) and it seems like you're doing really well against various reasonable subsets of his range. Obviously you're a little behind against his monsters, but that's just 11% of his range since he's open 80% of his buttons. What am I missing? Thanks!

I'd love to see more videos that just analyze PLO hands with PokerJuice. Maybe you can find a coach to do with PJ what Julian K. is doing with PioSolver - just very solid, straightforward videos that use the software to analyze 2-4 hands in detail. I think there's a lot of value in that, as it accomplishes multiple goals - it analyzes a situation in detail, it shows viewers how to use the software, and it arguably has more "library value" because the assumptions are explicit (whereas when we watch a liveplay video we don't know what the coach is basing his decision on). Thanks.

Awesome video Daniel. I think one of the most appealing aspects of RIO is the variety of video types and styles. Watching mid-high stakes live play is no doubt fun, but the site would be much less valuable IMO without a lot of other types of videos. I thought this one was particularly interesting because it used Pio in a slightly unusual way; I think anytime a video shows us new methods it's particularly interesting (a la 1 Hand 44 Rivers and Sauce's recent vid about responding to non-GTO OOP cb strategies). I'm sure they're a lot harder to produce but the "library value" I think is much, much higher.

Sorry just saw your question about this video vs. other theory videos. I'm generally a fan of all of them but two quick thoughts:
--I suspect part of the appeal of live play videos is the variety? So the fact that this looked at a bunch of different (though obviously related) situations helped make the video seem a little faster paced and varied, vs. when you do a big CREV tree of one hand
--I liked the summary bullets at the end; I know you've done that in some other videos as well but it helps make the video seem more practically applicable (as everyone ITT is emphasizing)
--Relatedly, I think that especially now that solvers have been out for a long time, it's not that people don't know how to run them, it's that we don't know how to best translate them into our games. I think a lot of people (including me) are bad at knowing how to optimally study away from the table, even when we do things like run Pio sims etc. Oxota had a video about "Intuitive GTO" that sort of spoke to this problem. It reminds me a bit of trying to learn a language or solve a math problem. When you see the translation or the solution worked out, you say to yourself, "Ah yes, that makes sense, I knew that." When prompted, we have understanding/recognition, and that can feel like knowledge/skill. But having to produce that knowledge or skill unprompted is entirely different.

Loved this video, would love to see more of this occasionally rather than the same old live commentary videos everyone does

Hi, just wanted to say this was a fantastic series. There are a lot of videos on the site for NL players going through hands with Pio, and I wish more of the PLO content was going through hands in PJ. Thanks Leszek for doing this series and I really encourage you to do more!

Hey Tom - quick question: regarding your comment of "seeing" which wraps are the key wraps on any given flop (e.g. on K74, there are two 13-wraps, 865 and 653), have you ever seen any software that is useful for training that? For NLHE, I was a big fan of using PokerRanger to quiz myself on range vs. range equities on random flops, so I'm just wondering if there's anything like that for PLO. Failing that, is there any other method you recommend other than random trial-and-error?

Actually one question: can you explain the suited vs. unsuited Ace you make towards the end of the video in more detail? I get distracted easily and the back-and-forth on the relative probabilities left me a little confused about the ultimate takeaway :-) Thanks again Tom.