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so yeah a guy playing T6o in 3b pots isnt a splashy fish, triple barreling with underpairs? he was your prototypical playing ATC and hitting 2 pairs vs people on rivers.
He called down here w AK and binked the river, so im still thinking hes a fish mate.
how cant i be repping a straight/set/2pair, if i had any of those would i not be trying to protect/charge a flush draw, or just get more money in with a strong hand vs a known station?
obviously looking back, sure folding or raising pre is better, but im not exactly sure why me raising, then calling helps any with this board... I feel like a limp call range is hitting this board waaaaay more often than and open/call in your typical 2/3 game.
April 12, 2017 | 5:48 a.m.
well vs a tight agg, id literally never play like this. vs a spewtard who will call down with top pair on a 23456 suited board i would definitely like a nutty hand
April 12, 2017 | 12:43 a.m.
Hi Ryan, great video.
when you construct these ranges, like in the 52ss BB v CO, are you ALWAYS 3betting those bluff hands? Or do you also fold? Same goes for hands that you choose to 3bet like the AJo on the button vs a UTG open, are you always 3betting it? or do you ever decide to just call there? Suited AJ do you just call?
April 10, 2017 | 6:18 a.m.
Hello all,
Hand 1:
Villian is a younger persian guy who i've played with before, he is a known fish and is extremely splashy, especially when he has a big stack. He is newer to the game, according to himself, but plays almost every hand. His VPIP was probably around 80-90%. He would call almost anything pre flop, but fold to aggression when he didnt have any sort of hand. V will barrel hands seemingly without any equity, and is all around pretty wild. He's built a huge stack of around $1200 by rivering 2 pairs on people, rivering a set of 8s vs my top pair after barreling all streets with an underpair and me calling him down, playing 96o in 3bet pots and hitting disguised straights.
The image of V is important because i would likely change my preflop play with him. History between us is mixed, when he's called my Preflop raises, he elected to donk into me 2x and both times i raised him (when i had no made hand yet), and he folded. Very recently, i rivered a flush vs him where he made a straight, and check raised him on the river for a very big pot, yes he paid off a check raise on a flushed river, he claims 'it looked like he was just trying to steal it!'. V has also folded to continued aggression vs other players, when he had decently strong hands, showing "big folds" to aggression then asking "was that good???"
the hand
I have 6c7c in UTG+2 with the effective stack of $515, i elect to limp because this table is largely limp happy, i dont mind spending 3 dollars to see a flop, if it's good, i can win big, if its bad, i lose 3 dollars. I'm also doing this with the intention of getting into a hand with V, becuase i know he will be raising sometimes too. V is in the SB. the man on my left who is a weak player who can open literally anything opens to 15, folds to V who min raises to 30. V has done this before however, i dont remember the hands. Either way, i have position on him, and if i make a nutted hand vs him, theres a great chance i can double through him. I'm not worried about the player on my left because he's likely to fold to this type of action based on lots of play together, and honestly, if hes in there it's fine by me
I call, he folds.
Flop ($70): 2c3cQd
V bets 35. I have a pretty strong draw here, there are lots of turns that give me a great draw or made hand vs this villain. When he 3bs pre, i do have to give him a bit more credit for his range, as he normally just calls with any of his garbage hands, but he's not afraid to barrel with underpairs (as shown by previous 8s hand described above). i'm getting correct odds to chase a flush vs any pair, and even better odds if he has air like AK, AJ, KJ, KT. I call. I feel like a call here is pretty standard here, but should i be raising? the merit to raising is i can set up a turn jam on cards that either improve a draw, or make my flush.
Turn ($140): 4s
I pick up gutshot outs, as well as my flush draw outs. V bets 45. Strange sizing from V, as usually he has bet at a consistent manor with his hand strength, 45 into 140 seems awfully weak. I limp called, and i should have this board absolutely dominated vs his range with sets, 2 pair, or straights. With my combo draw here, i think this is the time to try and take down the pot, as raising him in the past has worked and if i do hit my hand i want to build the pot. I have 450 behind at this point.
I elect to raise to $150; V thinks for a while then makes the call. I dont know what to make of this call, because V doesnt really slowplay his made hands (in a previous hand, he bet flop, i called, he checked turn, i bet, and he raised), so i feel like if he had a set of queens here, he'd be looking to raise, and even potentially a TPTK hand, which he has been known to call down with, but it makes me feel like he can have underpairs here a lot.
I think i should want to make it bigger on the turn, however if i raise more to something like 200, i only have 250 left on the river which doesnt leave me with a lot of fold equity if my draw bricks, but its a good card for me. This is where i think raising on the flop would have been better, because i could have gotten it in here on a particularly terrible card for him.
River ($440): As
V checks, and now what do i do??
I completely brick a big draw, and now have no clue what to do, i'm never winning with 7 high, and this Ace should be a decent scare card for him. If he has TT-KK this really sucks for him, even though he should be beat before the ace comes anyways. The only hands that V could show up with that improve with this card are AA and AQ. In that sense, i feel like this is actually a decent card for us to jam in for our remaining 300 because V likely flats AQ pre, and he should have pocket pairs here more than AQ especially based off his turn sizing. He can have QQ here as well, but even then, i feel for a limp call range, this should be a pretty terrible board-i wouldnt fault a call, as hes beating all other sets in my range. So i think we are getting snapped by 2 hands, AQ and QQ, but not much else outside of that, and its possible he could find a fold with AQ?
I dont know, this River really throws me for a loop, what hands could he possibly show up with here that are helped by the Ace vs how many hands hate that ace? How do you decide what to do in a situation like this where the draw bricks, but you're not sure if that river is a good card for you to bluff at or not? Checking back and just giving up on this river feels shitty becasue we just just blew off half our stack essentially and surrender it, but i also am not sure how the Ace helps or hurts my ability to bluff at this.
Now this makes me question whether or not the raise on the turn was a good idea or not, because i was getting good odds to call for my flush especially with implied odds, i could have just called and if i brick, whatever i lost 100 or so, and if i hit, i get a good pot, however i'd feel like an idiot for not raising and getting more money in the pot. But then lets say it bricks, and he checks to us, do i go for it anyways?
Feedback is always appreciated, i'm trying to work on improving my game as much as possible, and i thought this was a pretty interesting spot. Sometimes i feel i play draws a bit passive, so i'm also trying to figure out when i can raise as a semibluff on my draws at appropriate times.
Do i just check and give up, or do i jam in the 300 in to get him to fold an underpair or KQ type hand?
April 10, 2017 | 5:39 a.m.
Hello. Hand up for review here from last night.
Effective stack is V with $340.
V1 opens to 15 (standard open) in the HJ, V2 calls the 15 on the button. I look down at A2hh and knowing that V1 is a bit tilted and a little more of a loose player, and BTN can be calling with a lot of worse hands, i decide that since i block ace hands, i could work in a 3bet bluff here and if we get called, we have a hand that can make nutted hands, as well as win a smaller pot post flop when i pair an ace. I have been working on finding spots to 3b bluff in live games or just squeeze in general and since its not great to bluff in low stakes live games, its not something i do with much frequency, but this seemed like a decent spot to go for it - what do you think about this move in this spot?.
I 3b to 50, V1 folds, V2 calls.
Flop comes AAT rainbow. (pot of 110)
I think for a minute, considering whether i should check or bet. Checking could make sense because a lot of the times i'm way ahead (when i get called pre by 99, JJ, QQ, KK), or way way way behind (although the board and my ace block any AK, AQ its not impossible, or TT). Ultimately i decide on a cbet of $70, figuring i can get called by JJ,QQ, and KK often when my opponent doesnt buy my story of having an Ace, which is definitely possible given the board has 2. V2 calls. I dont think we are always strictly getting called by better here, so i think betting is okay.
do you prefer a check or a bet here and why?
Turn is 6d which brings a BDFD. Pot (250). Villain has 220 left behind.
I presume this changes almost nothing, and can still have the best hand here. I put out a bet of $100 hoping to keep a pocket pair such as Jacks, Queens, or Kings around. V2 calls. Getting called for 100 does start to set off alarm bells but at the same time, a big pocket pair could still be here, especially given some of the moves i've seen V2 do, where he has called down draws or drawy boards and when he misses still pays off because he thinks he might have the other guy.
is betting here a mistake? if we do bet, should we just get V's stack in at this point? Are we check calling if we do check?
the turn is a 3d, bringing the BDF. pot (450) V2 shouldnt have a ton of suited hands, even though the Ad is live, its still very hard to have that 4th ace.
at this point V has only 120 behind and it seems like we're calling anyways so i stick it in.
Feedback on this hand is greatly appreciated, i feel like checking the flop might be the right play here since its a rainbow board, and we either have the V crushed or we are being crushed. Even though we can get called by JJ-KK, and sometimes 9s, we could also throw out a delayed cbet on the turn after checking flop, and get the same result probably.
Is this a spot we should be going for all 3 streets? Since we block all Ax combos, we should only be losing to 3 combos of TT so can we go for it here?
April 7, 2017 | 1:06 a.m.
I dont have much history w/ MP2 as far as i remember, the thing is here since UTG raised to such a small amount, and MP2 3bets to a smaller amount, i think his range is wider than the standard table 15 open, 45-55 dollar 3bet, so i think MP2 3bet range can be wider here with the smaller sizing.
stack sizes: i think i had everyone covered except HJ calling station.
My plan was to go heads up with MP2 and cbet jam most flops given our SPR gives just about that as the only option, but when calling station gets in there, i dont think it works as well. What would be the plan given my 4bet here?
Jamming pre initially sounded terrible to me, because only better is calling, but given we block AA and KK, we can probably get JJ to fold almost always at this stake, and QQ still has a tough choice. I think it could be worth exploring a jam here because the chance we pick up the dead money.
Just calling AKo seems like lighting money on fire, just because we have no other option but to make a king or an A, suited i would definitely lean to calling.
very awkward spot with so many options here.
March 26, 2017 | 11:52 p.m.
yeah i dont know, its quite awkward.
folding is wrong, calling is too passive and lets people in far too cheap and AKo isn't a hand i want to have playing multiway. Shoving for 350 here seems like we are strictly getting called by Queens, kings, aces.
I'm only really worried about the original 3bettor having a real hand based on the players, so if we can get the dead money a lot, it should be alright to sometimes run into queens?
March 20, 2017 | 5:05 a.m.
Live 2/3 my stack is about 350ish.
UTG opens to 10, which is small for the table's usual 15+ dollar open, Two to his left 3bets to 30 (again small raise for the table since a usual 3b will be to around 50), HJ and CO cold call the 30. I look down at AKo.
Pretty confused about what to do in this spot, and its made more confusing by the small bet sizing. Some people will open to 30 at this casino, so when HJ (who is a calling station) calls, and CO call, i dont think they're overtly strong, and moreso have hands they 'want to see a flop with'. CO is an older man who pretty much limp calls anything.
Had the action gone: UTG open 15, MP2 3b to 50, and HJ and CO both call 50, i'd feel a lot better about this spot, but the small sizing makes it weird because it widens HJ and CO range quite a bit.
I elect to 4b here on the button; I raise to 150 hoping to go heads up to a flop, or better yet, take it down preflop.
Folds to 3bettor who calls, HJ calls, CO folds. 3 ways to the flop.
What are your thoughts on this 4b? I think calling sucks because we give SB and BB a free ticket to call pretty much, and then we play AKo in a 6 or 7 ways, which isnt ideal. I think AKs you could make the case for calling here since it plays much better postflop, but offsuit i feel we need to thin out the field. Although UTG opens, he's a rec player meaning his 10 dollar raise means he's probably decently weak, and he's not really thinking about his position and what not.
On to the flop
Flop comes Q33r - pot $490
MP2 checks, HJ checks, and now what do i do here?
This is a really hard spot for me, I cant imagine MP2 has a small pair, so his range is probably TT+, AK, AQs? (AK and AQs are very low probability holdings IMO, but possibly worth considering). AA and KK he'd likely jam pre, since he isn't playing very deep, and we also block AA/KK. HJ can have lots of hands seeing as he's a station and "was getting priced in", but likely holdings are smaller pocket pairs or maybe suited aces?
Do i jam here for my remaining 200 repping the overpair/queens? I can't see getting both to fold on this particular flop--i have no 3's in my range, and even though my likely holdings would be AA/KK/QQ hands like JJ could find a call because 'i put you on AK'. On such a dry board i would probably check Aces and Kings a decent amount here too.
Really curious for some input here both preflop and postflop.
Thanks
March 18, 2017 | 9:11 p.m.
where is the rest?
no offense taken at all-i didnt mean to come off as defensive or anything, i'm just trying to paint a picture of V.
think of a limp/call range. Flooded with small pocket pairs (2s,3s,4s), suited connectors (54s, 23s, 34s), and small suited Ax hands (A2cc, A3, A4, A5).
if im repping any of those hands, why would i not be raising this turn? V has shown he has the willingness to put money in the pot, and if i have one of those hands i want to get more money in the pot, and also charge any potential flush draw hands like AcQc or KcQc, AcKc, etc...
is that not a reasonable line with a hand as strong as a set/straight or even two pair vs a station? why wouldnt i raise there with one of those hands?
April 12, 2017 | 4:43 p.m.