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2:00 - You opted to check back 45o in the BB vs a SB open limp
I guess it's important to know how someone reacts vs a BB raise before deciding on the best strategy. I'm guessing that it makes sense to use the depolarized range vs someone who folds less and the polarized range vs someone who folds more?

SB limps 65%
Folds, Calls, 3bets vs BB raise - 50/35/15
Raise Top 25% and bottom 10% of hands

SB limps 65%
Folds, Calls, 3bets vs BB raise - 35/45/20
Raise top 30% of hands

would this be a reasonable strategy?

I've watched 4 of Sauce's 6max videos in a row. I have not seen him flat a single time in MP vs UTG.

I suppose this is fairly similar to SB vs other positions. Wonder if he is just playing 3bet or fold. I remember him mentioning that he 3-bets 6-9% in MP vs UTG and if his playable range is that wide then shouldn't he have no flatting range here?

Besides, most guys open 3X from UTG, which makes 3betting > calling
Vs certain min-raises or 2.5X opens, sauce did have a calling range in the SB.

+1, more practical applications

I've been thinking about this concept a little

1. Flop vs Turn
Do you think it's more applicable on the turn or on the flop? I feel like Flop check-raises are more common than Turn check-raises as the OOP PFR so maybe this is more relevant for Turn spots

2. Board Textures
Right now I'm mostly value bluffing with small pairs on the Turn on low boards and villain will usually c/c with Ace high. For example, 55 on 7s Td 2h 3d. Do you think it's appropriate in other situations? I tried using it on an AXX board with 33 on the Turn with a 20% pot bet and I got fucked by some check-raises once. By right most players shouldn't really have Turn check-raising ranges on such a texture which was why I thought it would be a great spot for a value bluff but maybe villain can accurately put me on a <2ndpair type of hand and value-raise TP accordingly.

i always struggled with the mis-reading from weak players for PLO. Glad to see a video on it.

Hmm I don't see how R will go down with lower SPR.
Most extreme example: The 4-bet is an all-in, R rises all the way to 1.

01:48
I have a question here regarding the hand you played against Gogol's Nose. I think your play is fairly standard, but I would like to know your thoughts on the PFR's cbetting strategy.

Board is Ad Kd 9d
How should PFR play Qd, Jd, Td, 8d, 5d?
For me I think Jd/Qd should 2-barrel cos the flush draw out is probably going to be clean, maybe Td/8d can bet once and check Turn, and weak flush draws shouldn't bet Flop and risk facing a raise and being forced to fold out equity.

Hi Sauce,

Any specific reasoning behind the halfpot on every street? Do you think this is the max EV bet size for this particular texture and should we only use 1 bet size?

I've been betting on the larger side on every street these days because larger sizes allow us to fire more bluff combos and maximize our ev with nut holdings. What's your take on that?

how is this even close? snap call

many of the hands you are 3-betting are callable. Like 67s or 85s. I guess it's ok to mix in some of them from time to time. You can probably widen your value range too to include 88, and you can add some off-suit bluffs like 76o

05:36 - You have AJo in the BB. CO opens to 2.7BB, BU and SB flats. Isn't this a good spot to squeeze? BU and SB probably don't have AQ/AK too often and you can make strong 1-pair hands. What's your squeezing range here?

11:54 - You flat K2s in BB vs BU open. Board is K92A, you check-call the Flop. You mentioned that BU should be bluffing the Turn very aggressively. Isn't the Turn better for your range than his? I guess your range is capped as you cannot have KK/AA/AK but at the same time he would often be checking back the Flop with Ace high whereas you would often check-call the Flop with Ace high, making it a card which helps you more? Or do you think that your range shouldn't contain so many Ace highs as compared to a 552r board for example. Should we even c/c a hand like A3/A8 on the Flop?

13:00 - You check in BB with J3o after SB limps. The board is AJ56K and SB fires thrice and you call down. The run-out seems really good for SB to bluff a lot as he should technically have a very strong range comprising of all sets, all the broadway 2-pairs, all AX and QT.

Preflop: Are you raising the top 25-35% of hands here? You aren't going to have too many AX hands right? Which probably means that you have to call down some JX hands. But at the same time the board run-out is really bad for you.

thanks for answering my questions as always.

I'm basing my plays on having a polarized 3-betting range, and picking hands slightly too weak to call to add as part of my "3-bet bluff" range. I'm aware that you tend to 3-bet a more linear range (as shown by the AQ 3bet vs UTG) which would probably affect the way each of us construct our calling ranges.

About my second and third paragraph

I'll try to rephrase my questions/comments. I'll give some examples and try to guess the logic behind your actions and maybe you can tell me if I'm right/wrong and elaborate on them.

Hand 1: You call 66 from the SB vs a 3BB open from the CO.
Hand 2: You choose to 3bet 22 vs a 2.3BB open SB vs BU.

I feel like these two situations are kind of similar and my logic is that if you call in hand 1 you should call in hand 2 as well, since both are low PPs, and you are getting even better pot odds on a call in hand 2.

Possible reasons for different play:
-You think 66 plays much better than 22 with a call
-You expect to get squeezed less often because CO's opening range and your flatting range are both stronger in SB vs CO, as compared to SB vs BU.
-Maybe you are taking either line with a mixed frequency?

Hand 3: You fold A4s vs a 2BB open in SB vs a tight BU opening range (40%?)
Hand 4: You call 79o vs an MP 3BB open + BU call in the BB

Possible reasons for different play:
-You value your pot odds more in this situation (21% for the 3way overcall with 79o vs 30% for the A4s call)
-You place a lot of value on closing the action in the BB

For this comparison, I strongly feel that Hand 3 is a much better
situation for calling than Hand 4. A4s just has way more playability and
equity, you will often play HU if BB folds, and the raise size is
smaller which makes calling cheaper. IMO these two plus points outweigh the favourable factors for calling 79o.

Hand 5: You fold J2o BB vs 2BB BU min-raise vs 0Human0
Hand 6: You call 74o or 23o BB vs 2BB min-raise vs other guys in other spots

Possible reasons for different play:
-Villain is tighter in Hand 5 and Villain is looser in Hand 6
-You value connectivity way more than high card value

Here if you told me that 75o > J2o I could still be convinced since there is significantly more straight potential and 5X makes better pairs than 2X which would be significant when dealing with wider ranges. But when you pick 23o > J2o it just doesn't make sense to me.

Sorry for the long post again, I feel like I need more words to express my thoughts.

Hi Sauce, great video.

You made a few plays which contradicts the way I think about poker and I hope you can explain your thoughts on this.

26:20 - You 3-bet AQs vs a 24/18 UTG guy, who I presume is opening 15% at most. Doesn't that seem too loose? AQs is only a 54% equity favourite vs a 15% range and if he continues top 50% then you'll probably be an underdog against 66+,ATs+,KJs+,AQo+ (45%)

Blind Defense Strategy - I'm a bit confused by this part
13:55 - You have A4s in SB vs a 2BB open from luzroja. You pay 30 for a 100 pot (30%)
14:36 - You call 79o in BB vs MP (0Human0) 3BB open + BU call. You pay 40 for a 190 pot (21%)
29:11 - You call CO's (RayJing) 3BB open with 66 in the SB with Ospeil8888 in the blinds, who I believe is aggro PF. You pay 50 for a 130 pot (38.4%)
37:45 - You 3bet 22 vs a 2.3BB open from Ospiel888 in SB vs BU
39:40 - You 3bet 67s SB vs BU

I feel like calling is more favourable for A4s and 67s in these spots, compared to 79o and 66. I guess with 79o, you get to close the action which is great and you have superior pot odds with a 3rd player but at the same time 3-way playability is poor and A4s >>> 79o. As for the 66, don't you think you'll get squeezed a lot?

I understand the logic behind the plays (I may fold A4s in SB vs a <50% BU range and I would also 3-bet 67s SB vs BU) but it seems to contradict the reasoning for the other 2 plays, which I feel are much worse spots for calling.

BB calling strategy vs BU min-raise
You also seem to favour calling low semi-connected trash hands more. Do you think it's better to call 74o and 23o rather than J2o (you folded this vs 0Human0). Or was his tightness a consideration for the fold?

thanks for your detailed answers as always.

Your bet size is poor here. In 3b pots making a 70% pot bet is generally a bad play especially on a drier KXX flop. the 5 and 6 doesn't really interact well with an OOP caller's range so it's dry, despite the presence of a flush draw. Just look for a halfpot bet on the Flop and bet smaller on the Turn as well so you can have a 3-street bet size plan

Fold Flop, you are mostly up against AX or higher pocket pairs. Against such a range, 99 is crushed here. I would expect a hand like KQ to mostly check-fold the Flop given how little Fold equity he is expected to have

1/2 live is way easier than 5c/10c online. Don't play so high, move down to 1c/2c or 2c/5c

Well I definitely don't think I can valuebet. With the flush completing it puts so much pressure on his 1pair hands.

1. Hmm at first I was just doing it with QQ alone, then I figured I should probably look at my top bluff catchers in this spot so I opted to use those hands instead. I guess my main goal was to find out if QQ was a c/c or a c/f, I didn't really think too deeply about the bluff portions of my range because I'm not too sure how to input both ranges in and interpret whatever that comes up properly

2. I think I added JTs afterwards which changed some variables.

What do you suggest I fix? Do you agree with the findings? That I should only c/c AJ and AA with Ac, and check-fold everything else?

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thanks for the very detailed reply. The picture is a little blur though, by good flush draws you mean JsX and QsX right?

A6o hand: You 4-bet instead of call. Isn't calling very standard, especially when the 3-bet size 15->45 is really small? Or do you think it's too weak to call? (I would be surprised if you thought so). Or do you 4bet and call the 3bet with mixed frequencies and use a more linear 4bet range for board coverage purposes?

I don't think his range is that tight either, but the range I put there isn't his Turn betting range, but his Turn bet-calling range.

I do think that he would be having a much larger bluffing range, and a somewhat wider value betting range. Do you think he would/should bet-call a hand like AQ or AJ without spades? What do you think is a reasonable bet-calling range for him?

where have you been recently? are you playing regular tables still?

Hi Sauce,
nice video, gave me some food for thought.

25:00 - You didn't complete your sentence. You mentioned that you were going to check-raise the Turn because it was implausible that ...
BB vs BU, you flat Ks5h, Board was As 8s 5s Kh and you check-called the Flop.

I don't really see him betting the Turn thinly on a monotone Flop, and I don't see him bet-calling with many worse hands besides some QsA and JsA type of hands, as well as some weaker two pairs. Since he's in the BTN He should have a ton of flush combos.

Board: AsTs5sKh
    Equity    Win    Tie
MP2    32.16%    32.16%    0.00%    { Ks5h }
MP3    67.84%    67.84%    0.00%    { AA, TT, 55, AKs, ATs, A5s, QJs, T5s, Qs9s, Js9s, Qs8s, Js8s, 9s8s, Qs7s, Js7s, 9s7s, 8s7s, Qs6s, Js6s, 9s6s, 8s6s, 7s6s, Qs5s, Js5s, Qs4s, Js4s, 6s4s, Qs3s, Js3s, Qs2s, Js2s, AKo, ATo, A5o, QJo, AdQs, AhQs, AcQs, AdJs, AhJs, AcJs }

I gave him a range of QsA and JsA and 2 pairs, sets and flushes. I find it hard for him to be bet-calling Turn with enough weaker hands