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danielmerrilees I quickly looked through Royces Likes as I felt guilty for automatically assuming NoHubris was telling the truth but something is definitely quite suspicious.
He is showing ridiculous favoritism towards you and liking a lot of your 4-5 word posts that don't appear to be constructive in any way.
April 29, 2014 | 4:13 p.m.
"If the Royce account was deleted, you would not be anywhere near the top 10 list. He has "liked" your posts over 108 times this month"
sick. maybe there should be a cap on how many likes 1 user can give to another user.
April 29, 2014 | 11:46 a.m.
@Tyler: That makes a lot of sense. I am annoyed I didn't realise that myself! Thanks for the insight yet again.
@Chael: Thanks, you are definitely right about the 3-bet sizing. It is a hand I would usually flat preflop but I have started to mix it up a little more with some suited connectors.
I feel ashamed for considering a check-fold now. I guess I am going to have to go and take a shower to wash away my sins :)
April 8, 2014 | 10:33 a.m.
BN: $21.72
SB: $24.75
BB: $25 (Hero)
UTG: $24.65
HJ: $29.58
Opens CO: 23%
Not so many other reads.
However I do not really want the reads to become relevant to the discussion and would like to see how one should play their range (specifically weak flush draws) on this turn card.
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $0.75, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $1.25
April 7, 2014 | 6:52 p.m.
I'm doing some analysis and i cant' get some nice results for you even when getting 3 to 1 OTR.
I completely agree with you on this point and it is the main reason I posted the hand.
Therefore the Turn is probably the most important street in this hand and it does look super close but I don't think anyone can ever fold TP+OESD in this spot.
Someone mentioned that the offsuit 3 changes nothing. That is also true for our range not just villians range. He should also know that, which makes his river shove so much stronger IMO.
March 31, 2014 | 4:47 p.m.
HJ: $29.02
CO: $25
BN: $25
SB: $25 (Hero)
BB: $39.61
Only 70 hands but he has been an active 3bettor.
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.50
March 30, 2014 | 3:05 p.m.
SB: $26.48
BB: $25.35
HJ: $48.73 (Hero)
CO: $22.06
8% Squeeze
Very small sample size so no other relevant reads.
BTN: 20/10 Fish
Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN calls $0.75, SB folds, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $2, BN folds
March 30, 2014 | 2:51 p.m.
SB: $6.19
BB: $28.11
UTG: $15.45
HJ: $27.97 (Hero)
CO: $42.94
Villian: 26/21/8% 3bet BTNvHJ.
Flop Cbet 3B-Pot: 60%
Turn Cbet 3B-Pot: 50%
WWSF 47%
W@SD 66%
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BN raises to $2.25, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $1.50
March 28, 2014 | 4:57 p.m.
How should a defend 3bet range look when you open wide at lower stakes?
I mostly 4bet or fold v a 3bet but it is not enough.
What would a reasonable flat 3bet range look like as a default?
Against players who 3bet 10-15% blind vs blind I am not sure what to do with a lot of the small-mid pocket pairs and TJs~ hands.
March 22, 2014 | 1:06 p.m.
Thanks for clearing that up Tyler!
March 21, 2014 | 6:57 p.m.
SB: $32.84
BB: $18.46
UTG: $45
HJ: $91.13
CO: $25
The sample size is very small so I have no other relevant stats.
I think everything is standard in the hand except for the turn play.
Maybe pre is slightly loose vs an unknown reg.
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB folds, CO calls $1.25
Should I check back and try realize my equity or barrel with the intention of jamming most rivers when its against a relatively unknown reg in the zoom pool?
We have about 20-25% equity on the turn and 30% pot odds to call his shove, so we are never folding?
March 20, 2014 | 6:48 p.m.
SB: $30.04
BB: $13.90
UTG: $25.78 (Hero)
HJ: $16
CO: $28.30
Let's assume Villian is a standard unknown reg in the Zoom field.
Hero raises to $0.75, HJ folds, CO raises to $2.25, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $1.50
March 19, 2014 | 2:16 p.m.
SB: $6.67
BB: $23.63
UTG: $31 (Hero)
HJ: $15.01
CO: $24.65
No other reads.
Hero raises to $0.75, HJ folds, CO calls $0.75, BN folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50
March 19, 2014 | 2:11 p.m.
Thanks everyone.
This is a call all day for me when I take this line too but he had a flush this time.
Should we be value betting AQ as villian, even when the BB has a 2.5-4% 3bet in these positions?
March 19, 2014 | 1 p.m.
And i dont see any other stat telling he is passive at all beside the small 3bet stat
I said in my OP under reads: "Villian appears to be a weakish straight forward regular". I also said in my most recent post that I didn't include all the stats on him. I thought that would have been enough for you to trust me that he was a weak player, sorry for the confusion.
so sry dude if i overread something but i see no info about any stats you perceive that include your 3betstats
There wasnt any. That is why I found it strange for you to assume it included 9x, TT-JJ as these are not in most peoples standard 3betting ranges against UTG.
And i dont understand your numbers about your 3b/5b range cause there is no 4b or 5b happening
I was trying to get the point across that I am using a balanced 3betting and call 4B/5B range that does not include 9x. If we add too many bluffs to our 3betting range we can be exploited quite easily against most competent players. I assumed you would have understood that.
why shouldnt it include TT/JJ or 92s?)
Apart from the reason I just listed above I really have no idea why you would want to 3bet 92s in this specific situation.
To me that seems awfully bad, hopefully you can enlighten me as to why you would include it.
But i guess you´re forgetting how loose villain is defending here pre.
Exactly. He is calling 40% of the time and when he does his range is made up of the top 8% of hands (-AA,-KK) so why would you want to start 3betting random 9x like 93s when your OOP against a very tight range that isn't folding often?
{ QQ+, 99, 66, AQs, KQs, AcKc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac5c, Ac4c, KQo, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s }
Sorry but how on earth did you come up with this range? A5o!?
I think you need to play around with pokerstove and take a look at a more realistic 8% UTG defend range because it definitely doesnt contain A5o. Not even a 60% Button opener would defend that.
March 18, 2014 | 8:29 p.m.
IMO this is a pretty standard vbet with QX OTR cause we rep TT/JJ or random 9X pretty well
That is assuming we are even 3betting TT-JJ in the first place. If my 3bet stats show 2-4% in these positions then villian should perceive my range as not containing many, if any TT-JJ if he is a competent player. This means my range should be extremely strong by the time I get to the river.
What random 9x would we have?
If I use a balanced 2-4% 3B/5B range in this spot as a standard it wouldn't contain any 9x. You just cant make that assumption and then justify a river call because of it.
I would be surprised if this was a standard vbet with AQ for villian without specific reads.
If I am not 3-betting a tight range then I don't know why I would want to 3bet many random 9x hands OOP vs an UTG who is calling 3bets a lot with a tight range.
what makes you think that villain is passive?
I didn't include all his stats but with the stats I did list you can see that he isnt very aggressive both preflop and postflop.
March 18, 2014 | 4:43 p.m.
I'm never folding after playing the hand so passively postflop from the very start.
Definitely not folding the river after we take a c/c, c/c line with a hand this strong
Nor would I, but look at his stats.
What does our hand look like to him? We dont 3bet JJ-TT so we can rule those out.
We can easily have flushes and KK+.
What else would we 3bet vs UTG and play this way that he would expect AQ to be good against on this board when we check-call twice? I cant think of many hands.
Looking at his stats I dont think he would be capable of value betting this light on the river with AQ considering the way the hand has played out.
He is a weak player who is not very aggressive postflop, he goes to showdown a lot and he wins a lot at showdown.
March 17, 2014 | 1:19 p.m.
How would we play against a much better regular if we give him a similiar range?
March 16, 2014 | 8:16 p.m.
SB: $36.47
BB: $25.85 (Hero)
UTG: $29.88
HJ: $25
CO: $25.23
21/15/1.1% 4B-R
UTG open: 20%
UTG call 3bet: 40%
W@SD 63%
WWSF 45%
UTG raises to $0.52, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $2, UTG calls $1.48
Against that range I don't think I am getting value from much except AQ so I decided to check-call.
I think he would still bet AcQx combos.
I am still losing to QQ/99 and any flushes he now has.
He would check back JJ and some other AQ combos.
I am not sure how he would play his non flush AK combos.
This doesn't leave much in his range.
I don't think he would valuebet AQ this thin given the action but it's still possibly.
With his average WWSF and high won @ showdown I think he has a very strong hand here a lot but it's hard to think what apart from QQ/99.
I am not sure if it makes his hand look stronger that he chooses a half pot betsize instead of a shove.
Is this an easy fold or crying call?
March 16, 2014 | 7:48 p.m.
SB: $28.79
BB: $26.65
UTG: $25.78
HJ: $25.78
CO: $26.71 (Hero)
BTN is unknown, only 6 hands where he is playing 24/24 and from a Mobile/Tablet so he could possibly be a regular.
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BN raises to $2.60, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $1.85
His mobile icon and 24/24 stats slightly threw me off so I didn't want to make a bigger mistake by getting it all in preflop.
March 8, 2014 | 2:35 p.m.
sign this guy up RIO.
Jan. 30, 2014 | 8:12 p.m.
What if it was a HU pot?
In this spot I feel like I only call to set mine and it is not a good play because have to fold so much on the flop.
Nov. 26, 2013 | 6:07 p.m.
SB: $120.56
BB: $50.75
UTG: $50 (Hero)
HJ: $27.27
CO: $52.61
CO: 23/20/9% 3bet overall. Too small sample for anything specific.
Common spot against majority unknown regs. What is the best way to play?
Hero raises to $1.50, HJ calls $1.50, CO raises to $6, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $4.50, HJ calls $4.50
Nov. 26, 2013 | 11:26 a.m.
What is the best way to learn push/shove/call ranges here for beginners?
Nov. 21, 2013 | 4:58 p.m.
SB: $22.98
BB: $19.18
UTG: $50.75 (Hero)
HJ: $108.10
CO: $139.48
BTN: 18/14/2% 3bet
WWSF: 43%
Cold Call BTN: 9%
Raise Flop Cbet: 18% (Large Sample)
Hero raises to $1.50, HJ folds, CO folds, BN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB folds
Nov. 3, 2013 | 5 p.m.
SB: $65.51 (Hero)
BB: $50.33
UTG: $31.25
HJ: $34.55
CO: $40.13
WTSD: 42%
W@SD: 40%
WWSF: 50%
215 hands.
He has raised flop cbet IP once out of 10 opportunities.
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1
Nov. 3, 2013 | 4:50 p.m.
SB: $107.06
BB: $56.06
UTG: $50.75
HJ: $50
CO: $112.87
BB looks fishy from his preflop actions but no reads.
SB: 44/19 no other reads.
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50
SB SNAP calls and I put him on a JT type hand.
But TJ is also very likely now.
This is not a spot where I would usually shove as it is hard to get called by worse, but in this case I am not so sure if that holds true?
Nov. 3, 2013 | 4:46 p.m.
Looks very standard to me.
Our hand is definitely strong enough to just check-call with on the flop.
Folding turn sounds crazy, and raising is too thin so I would be calling again.
Even though we are not getting called by worse very often I would still be raising river. I am not sure why we wouldn't?
As stated in the OP he is pretty much an unknown, people are bad and we made an unlikely runner runner boat.
Oct. 24, 2013 | 7:35 p.m.
Very insightful thanks.
Browsing through the video list I noticed sauce hasn't released a video in 4 weeks.
Is he still releasing videos? For as long as I can remember they would be released every 2 weeks on a friday without fail!
June 2, 2017 | 7:33 p.m.