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fast-livin1

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Thanks for the reply.
Ic.. I didnt see villains stats. So you are essentially set-mining or hoping villain cbets a non A or K high board and then checks it down? And its just a fold to further aggression on the turn?

What about vs an aggro reg? Calling the cbet wider like you mentioned I understand. But what about OTT? I imagine its not just fold to a turn bet, are you mostly coming to a conclusion based on your hud stats here? Are you ever raising a Thi or less board OTF and getting it in?

Also, against both villains, I'm assuming, (barring specific reads) that you fold to any A or K OTT?

Oct. 28, 2023 | 7:27 a.m.

Hey Max. You are a great teacher I have to say.
@23:40 min mark you 3b JJ btn v UTG and call a 4-bet. Then snap fold v standard 25% cbet on k1010 flop. You shrug it off like it's nothing, but that would have eaten away at me, because I do not understand this concept. I come from spin n go background (25 or less bb) and transitioned to cash, and I've had to make a huge, uncomfortable adjustment when it comes to hands like 99,1010,JJ, even QQ. In a 3 handed spin 97% of the time you would just get these in and think nothing of it. If run into a higher pair its a cooler. But in cash, (50nl zoom) you have to do some maneuvering with these hands when u face aggression, ie. calling 4bets and playing postflop. And its this maneuvering part that I do not understand at all. I don't understand the difference between 22 and JJ here. Do you plan to get these JJ all-in OTF if they were an overpair? And call it a cooler if villain has better? Or do you call and "re-evaluate" turn (Which I don't fully understand "re-evaluating" either, like how much more info can hero deduce here from villain with already such a low spr?) If you are scared of his 4-bet range to not get in JJ preflop, and even on an ideal board like 224 not feel comfortable getting it in, why even call pre here? BTW any overcard (Q less scary) which hits villains range on flop and its just a snap fold to a range bet? So many factors against you here, I don't understand how this could possibly be +ev. If it's not profitable as a set mine, I don't see any real difference between JJ and 22 here. Help me see the light brother! :D
Looking forward to your reply, or if anyone else wants to chime in to help educate. Much appreciated. Peace!

Oct. 25, 2023 | 11:51 a.m.

Hey Paul. I enjoyed this format, very informative thank you.
1:02.25 I fall in the category of over-checking my sets here. I personally don't see any merit in betting them on this turn here, which is possibly the worst in the deck. I could see myself deviating from this with a small sizing against a passive fish type, but other than that, I'm checking here 100%. Is there any other scenarios where betting the turn with my set could be better than a x/c? Thanks.

April 17, 2018 | 12:55 p.m.

Shifty.

Congrats on the contract man. Look forward to more.

At 4:20 you talk about how your blockers are horrible. Can you explain this concept a bit further to me please? Correct me if I'm wrong.From my understanding the Ac is a bad blocker, because it blocks a portion of villain's f/d semibluffs he could have on turn. Why is the 10 particularly bad though? Because of blocking potential semibluffs like 109,107?
Also in this hand, what would be considered good blockers, and why? How much merit generally should blockers have in factoring my decision?

Thanks man best of luck.

-Ryan

March 17, 2018 | 11:50 a.m.

YoYo,

So I have been dabbling with $5 and $10 games they have on Stars. Has anyone here actually beat these for a decent sample?

First of all, the $5 games have 10% rake. The rake does get lower as you increase the buyin. With only 10bb starting stacks + antes, with blinds progressing like this every 2 minutes: 25/50 - 35/70 - 50/100 - 200/400 -300/600! (With huge antes) And big stacks calling you with almost ATC in order to get a KO, the variance is insane. Somehow I still want to be able to grind these out, they are fun and full of fish. I don't mind formats with small edges and crazy variance.
Anyways, I have played around 6k of these and have a combined ROI of about -3%. I have been a sng pro for many years, and have always prided myself with having one of the highest ROI's.

Would Stars ever put out a game that wasn't beatable? What can I do to get better at these? I feel ICMIZER alone isn't enough as I think there is more to discuss about winning strategy. Things like negative EV overcalling allin early in order to get a stack and multiple KO's.

If anyone has any knowledge of these, or could recommend a coach for me, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

March 16, 2018 | 11:24 a.m.

Like.. as a quick rule of thumb while in game.. in general how much % should I be taking away from my perceived equity if I think some of our outs might be tainted?

March 15, 2018 | 9:54 a.m.

Watup Serge.

I forgot to thank you for your responses for some previous questions I had about check-raising. Thank you sir. I always look forward to your vids. Hope you doing well man.

at 10:30 mark you bet/fold the 89s on the turn. I had to pause the video because my (Hopefully somewhat accurate) quick head math told me that was a call. It is 115.xx to win 285.xx. It's around a 2.5:1 pot odds call. Which you need around 29% equity. You have 15 outs OTT = 30% equity. Is it because some of your outs might be tainted that you choose to fold here? The way the hand is played here I would think it's only sets we need to worry about villain having, rather than our flush/straight outs
What do you think?

March 15, 2018 | 9:46 a.m.

Also, at 5:18, table 4, you bet//call the river with your k-high flush. Is that a standard call? Your range looks, in my opinion, heavily weighted towards bd flushes, or a 10, so for villain to c/r there seems pretty ambitious. I play smaller stakes, (25/50c) so I would think this would be a losing call against average population? Against, what villain decides he is betting for value that you beat,(namely a 10) it seems a likely line for him would be to bet//decide river. I don't see worse flushes c/ring, which only leaves bluffs and nutted hands. Not sure if you had reads. Thanks again.

-Fast-LiviN

June 6, 2017 | 1:55 a.m.

Watup Serge.

I haven't been subscribed for a few months, but you were the first coach I looked up when I got back. Aside from the fact we play the same format, I really enjoy your playing style. Cheers bro.

A question came up right when I started the vid, at 1:23 You c/call with kjh on a k65s monotone board, saying there are alot of bad turns. I, too, have been in this spot many times, and I usually play it the same way. It seems generally what good players do is always check call these monotone boards with their strong one pair hands.

I question whether there is any merit to c/raising (generally without a spade) these boards. It seems like a hand we lose a ton of value from because so many turn cards hurt us. Besides villain's flopped 2pair+, Is it because the added chance of villains flopped flush, that players generally play these boards passively? I never really understood this as that is a less than 1% chance for a flopped flush.

I am an extremely laggy player myself and I currently play a strategy which involves a high % of small re-raises and c/rs on flop. The regs I play with know I over-bluff these spots. I was thinking I would play this type of hand similar to a spot where I would play against an "adjusting, non-believing reg." I would c/r say kj+, at a mixed frequency,on a k93 2 suited//rainbow board. Less frequency on the rainbow board. This would not be a spot where I would go for 3 streets but rather a c/call////bet turn, decide river line. (I understand my re-raise could face a 3bet, but I rarely encounter someone who takes this line as a bluff, which means in a vacuum I can safely fold my pair on flop) EDIT: actually at :34 seconds is a scenario where I would potentially c/r you from BB or OR's position.

I almost always play these monotone boards passively. Surely there has to be some value on flop with villains lone spades, or non believing pairs with/without a spade. Even from regs? Against this fishy villain with a half stack and high vpip, I would think there would be even more value to be had. Which brings me to another question. It would be great if someone could give me the actual math. Against this specific 60ish% stack villain, if we knew he would call the c/r with X% of hands that we are essentially drawing dead against, X% of hands without a spade that we beat, and 1 spade hands that we currently beat, would it be profitable, over a billion scenarios, to c/r to say 36-40 and shove all non-spade turns?

I understand having this sort of non-polarized raising strategy is quite dangerous. I sometimes find myself not having a plan on certain run-outs. Which makes me question the whole strategy in the first place. It seems like a grey area. I do find it quite profitable bluff re-raising flops, and feel in order to balance I can;t just have a standard 2p+ ////backdoor equity c/r range. Plus I have seen some high-stakes guys who's game I respect incorporate this into their game, so naturally I try to follow. I am willing to listen to anyone who can convince me ditching this all together and having a stronger c/calling range//allowing villain to bluff is better, however.

Looking forward to what you, or anyone else, has to say on this matter.

Much appreciated!

-Fast-LiviN

June 6, 2017 | 12:03 a.m.

Wow, thank you very much. You went above and beyond with your explanation. I appreciate that.

Let me just make sure were are on the same page.

Basically, you are saying yes it is correct to apply pressure against capped ranges, (100% bluffcatchers, 0 nuts) But it is not correct to do so against someone who doesn't actually fold those bluffcatchers?

When I "apply extreme pressure" I mean over-betting only, I should have clarified that sorry.

If I over-bet vs. what I perceive to be a capped range and get called by a bluffcatch Im trying to target, I will take a note on that player that they have "station tendencies." Instead of bluffing alot less vs them or bluffing 0% like you mention, I will only bluff with a little less frequency.But I will expand my over-betting value range. So I keep them in an over-bet guessing game so to speak. Not sure if this is the right approach. I'm very aggro, and a big "herocall" type player. I know some regs have chosen a strat. to bluff me with a very low frequency. It is very +ev for them. Let's say I started using this 0% bluff strat against some players. How can I tell when they've adjusted to me?

April 12, 2017 | 5:34 a.m.

Hey Diego.

@around 39:00 minute mark. with your 710s and you are now contemplating a river bet. You said villain, who you've determined is a bluff-catcher, would call any sizing here. What about an overbet shove allin? What I personally tend to do against "bluffcatchers" is apply extreme pressure, instead of a more defensive approach. Not sure if it's the most optimal. I def. don't take enough exploitive lines, like your check-back here, which I thought was great.

Another question, what is your recommendation on REALLY improving your stat reads, and how to interpret them. For example, at 38:00 you were talking about how two specific stats correlate. Which was Won when saw flop, and won at showdown if im not mistaken? (Wwsf, w$sd) How did you come to realize this information? I use pt4, and I know im missing tons of profit not delving deep enough into my stat reads.

Thank you very much!

Also, the intro music is alright. My dad was a musician, and it gives me time to a take a huge bong hit. Cheers

April 10, 2017 | 6:28 a.m.

Hey Nuno. Enjoyed the vid, ty.

At around the 20:20 mark you speak about villains blocker not being the best for his call. Can you explain this to me please? I understand the concept of blockers but in this particular case I don't see what potential bluffs he blocks. Or maybe I don't fully understand the concept of blockers at all lol... Thanks again.

Feb. 17, 2017 | 12:27 p.m.

Hey Javier

5:45 AQ hand. You say the Q is a decent turn but I disagree. Villain is pretty polarized when betting this turn. I think most decents would turn everything but sets+ into a check/call on this turn...I don't see enough bluffs from villain to justify a call here.(Even with your 4 outs)

Would love to hear your thoughts on this and anyone else please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

Jan. 22, 2017 | 11:01 a.m.

Hey Serge. Quick question 16:50 mark you choose to double barrel kq with no equity just overcards. Plus the card you chose to barrel turn with hits opponents range. I'm just wondering your reasoning behind this as I don't see you make plays like this often. What were you planning to do on rivers? Thank you sir.

Jan. 8, 2017 | 8:21 a.m.

Preciate that guys

Nov. 24, 2016 | 5:30 a.m.

Great video Steve. Always enjoyed your content. I currently use PT4 as well. What type of HUD is hero using? I currently use Blackrain's cashgame HUD. It is detailed, but not nearly as much content as hero's. I, too, have very good sample sizes on my opponents, and really think I could utilize something closer to hero's HUD. Could you direct me on how I would go about getting one? (Interested in VS. hero stats as opposed to just general stats.) I have tried doing it manually with no avail. Ty Very Much!

Nov. 22, 2016 | 7:03 a.m.

Good video as always Wei. You are one of my favorite instructors.

So, about the 2 ak's where you 5-bet shove and get called by KK first time, AA the second time. Would you say these were coolers? I have trouble myself with this hand. Myself especially who's style is alot looser preflop compared to yours. You say you noticed throughout your sample that there weren't many 4-bet bluffs in general at 100zoom. So, what do you we do with Ak here against an unkown? Would 3-betting//fold to a 4-bet be an option? what about 3-bet/flatting? Or not 3betting at all?

BTW I never really understood the concept of "flatting a 4bet with ak." Ak plays much better as a shove preflop. Sure you can get value from dominated A's, K's, on "favorable outcome" flops. But generally the hand, (with maths behind my claim that any competent player has heard before regarding shoving ak preflop) plays better jamming preflop. I will flat ak (QQ too) when I am "scared to get it in pre" Then unless I hit some equity, or its a dry board where I'll float once and usually fold turn, I am giving up. I don't have much of a bluffing range either with ak. Is this whole "alternative process to shoving preflop" +ev? Would be cool to hear other's thoughts on this as well.

Thankyou!

Nov. 18, 2016 | 7:46 a.m.

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