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I meant the play was balanced in the sense that it hides the information well.   Hyperborean can showdown the nuts or a thin value hand on the river when it minbets.  I think that if a play is balanced in the abstraction it won't necessarily be in the real game.  For example, in the abstraction they will typically merge boards with similar strategic properties (to make the game tree size manageable) so there will be information loss and this may lead to less than optimal plays in the real game.

It's hard to make sense of all the things it does. It's like a black box, we can't follow the process that leads to a certain play as it is the result of millions of iterations of the equilibrium finding process.


Nov. 19, 2013 | 1:16 a.m.

I have watched many hands of hyperborean_iro and as expected its use of the min bet is very balanced as the strategy was arrived at via equilibrium finding algorithms. It is making that play because in the game abstraction (approximation) it is attempting to solve it is the most profitable way to play the hand, which of course doesn't mean it is the best play in the complete game. I made another video that illustrates its use of min bets (contains only hands where such bets occured): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlfEfKu5tZA

It is interesting to note that these bots have different styles: hyperborean_iro is much more aggressive preflop and postflop than slumbot so most of its winnings are non-SD as you can see here http://i.imgur.com/Y3e3k5s.png. The last 130k hands are against tartanian6 which is a bit more aggro postflop so the red line starts to flatten a bit.


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Nov. 18, 2013 | 11:03 p.m.

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