donovanshane

No no, I think your missing the point Galfond. In  your post, it kept bleeding through, no matter how much you tried to be fair, that you (as a new school player), think that new school players ARE better than old school players. Your post had a lot to do with, the lack of respect both sides show each other. Well....that IS the problem. Its not that the young guys have had it easier. Its not that they aren't good ambassadors for the game, we don't care. Its the fact that they sit down and claim to be better (the truth is in a lot of ways they are, but not every way) than the players that have came before them. Lets be honest, most claim they would DESTROY the old guard (so much for respect). Come on Phil, admit it, you think most new school players are way better. This is what agitates the old school guys. I'm not arguing who is better, I'm just commenting on what the problem is. Like you said in your post, young guys look for that opportunity to "show" everyone how good they are, while talking strategy during an interview or what not. Old school guys want the same respect. Once again, my a post wasn't about who is better, but an opinion of why there is such a lack of respect.

ACK!!!! So much for my Bing search. I guess Google IS better than Bing. Kinda of like old school vs. new school. Get it? Uuuhhh...sigh. Congrats on the bracket Phil OK, heads up for Rolz against Galfond?  YOU BET! MY ROLL FOR HIS?! HELL YES! I'M getting like 50 to 1! That being said, I didn't mean for my post to sound so venomous. I think Galfond is great for poker, and truly one of the best minds in the game. I was speaking more in the terms of old school VS. new school. Phil is definitely part of the new school. At 39, I'm old school. Once again..sigh. Phil's post shows the problem. They truly think they are better, even though the results aren't there to back that statement up. No no, some old school players don't play online. Why, because thats not were there edge is! There is something to be said for endurance. A 12 hour live session, and still being able to laugh...talk...AND PULL information out of people is a talent within itself. Old school doesn't like to talk advanced strategy? Well new school downplays reading ability at the table because they are introverts and can't do it. If new school would admit that old school , are dangerous players themselves ,that would go a long way for mutual respect. I have to add something here. Riess=NOT NEW SCHOOL. You guys do know Galfond isn't just talking about age right? Two people have brought up main event winners to try and prove there point. Not even JMAN28 himself would have tried to use that. You do know to win the main event is all about luck ...don't you? THERE'S 8,000 PEOPLE! If you don't believe that its luck...JUST ASK ANY NEW SCHOOL PLAYER.

 Phil...where's your bracelet? You don't have one, and most of you don't.This post is the entire PROBLEM with the new school players. How many times did I read in this post "they don't want new school players to sit at there table because of EV", or "surpassed them in skill". Thats a joke. Online with 15 tables going at once, new school IS better. But live...at 30 hands an hour, BRING IT ON. Phil....NEW SCHOOL IS NOT NOT BETTER (at live). When guys like you continue to say how much better they are...thats the problem right there (cause you are not). If so...why aren't they winning bracelets 10/1 compared to the old school players? They're not. What about at the tables in vegas? Why aren't they busting old school players bankrolls at an astounding rate? They're not. Your post just pissed them off more. So..we'll keep winning bracelets, getting sponsorship deals, owning young punks at the live table, meeting people, getting laid, while "new school" players play 20 tables at a time...in there bed rooms...alone..with porn in the back ground, snorting about how much better at poker they are than old school players. While they watch old school players get invited to TV shows and sign autographs.